Trump supports Roy Moore's child molestation

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JLM

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Why not? What about DUE PROCESS?


I just told you what the process would be - watch, record, report! Savvy?

Innocent until proven guilty, JLM. Isn't that your battle cry?




Not mine, Stupid- the frame work the entire justice system is based on..................in Canada anyway! Maybe if you just let adults talk, you might learn something sensible! OR you can go back to bashing rocks! Just don't get your head in the way!
 

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Not mine, Stupid- the frame work the entire justice system is based on..................in Canada anyway! Maybe if you just let adults talk, you might learn something sensible! OR you can go back to bashing rocks! Just don't get your head in the way!

Still haven't figured out that an election isn't a criminal trial? Oh dear.

Well, can't fix stupid.
 

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What do you think? A smart man observes and keeps his mouth shut until he's witnessed something that is worthy of reporting. I sure as hell wouldn't blab something to the whole wide world that a 14 year old girl who I know nothing about has told me.

Not to the whole wide world, no, because we don't want to destroy the life of a potentially innocent man. But to the police, absolutely, because if she's being abused, we want it to be investigated.
 

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"If one judges, One must investigate" - Seneca

There is such a thing as context - its fine to accuse, but what if the accusation was faked, in this case since its a pretty obvious political play, there should be some counter charges.

To put someone up to this would be pimping
 

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One has to be really careful in matters like this. When my wife's sister was about 14 a friend of hers cooked up a story about being attacked when confronted by her mother about not being home on time. I guess the story was a little too dramatic to gather legs and thankfully didn't go very far but it just goes to show it doesn't necessarily take much for something like this to get started. The more serious the offense the more vigilance is required, or an innocent person can be damaged for life or even in extreme cases commit suicide. The best defense is likely to educate your kids.
 

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No, he brought up President Drunkuncle's reaction to the kneeling players, and you immediately launched a tu quoque fallacy. Well done. I'm sure all the rock bangers are banging rocks in applause.
See you knew that .
 

JLM

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Where has it been substantiated that Hillary Clinton was responsible for Benghazi?


You wouldn't lend credence to anything anybody says. I'm not looking for your credence, you're a foolish, borderline retarded rock banger. That's why my prior post wasn't to you, it was about you. You're a specimen, and we're discussing you.


I at least admit to being a borderline retarded rock banger but W.T.F. does that make you? At least unlike you I don't make a habit of belittling other opinions like you and that half wit adherent of yours do on a daily basis. His name is Putz or Cannucklehead - take your choice. (If you get bored with rock banging maybe you can dig a hole to pound sand in)

Well, can't fix stupid.


Now you finally understand why you never get any brighter, Half wit! Where's my statement saying a trial is the same as an election?

Innocent until proven guilty, JLM. Isn't that your battle cry?

Or is that only for white rightwing child molesters?


Go f**k your hat, Dweeb!

If you knew someone who has had multiple accusations of child molestation against them, was known by the police as being a possible pedophile, and banned from malls because he's said to creep on teenage girl there, would you let them babysit your grand kids?


You take me for being as Stupid as Bones? Huge mistake...............colossal! :)

Sure, if you think letting 100 murderers roam free to save one wrongful parking ticket is a good idea.

Or if you think one Antifa extremist is equal to thousands of ultraviolent Nazis.

But there is also hope in proportionality!

Fortunately, most people aren't as stupid as you.


Did your mother have any kids who lived? :)

We all noticed YOU defend the TRUMP HATING pedos and attack the people who don't like that sort of thing
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so who you tying to kid doood?


Best just to completely ignore the Asshole, talk about him but not to him as Sleepy would say!
 

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I just told you what the process would be - watch, record, report! Savvy?

That's not due process. You can't just make up your own definition of due process when using the real one gets you mocked. Sorry, JLM you should have just quit this nonsense a while ago.

What happened here is you felt bad for Roy Moore because he's been accused of being a pedophile, so in order to express that you tried to give it legitimacy by using the rhetoric of civil rights and the law. Unfortunately, people calling him a pedophile has nothing to do with civil rights or the law. That was pointed out to you and now to save face you continue to insist on the same language but with a new definition.

Even more unfortunate for you is that you admit that you yourself would judge Roy Moore based on the accusations against him and not have him around your grandkids. You also say that despite that you wouldn't tell other people about this, leaving other children vulnerable to a predator. I suspect you only said that to save your crumbling argument. You're better off actually admitting you're wrong than backtracking and looking silly for it.
 
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I at least admit to being a borderline retarded rock banger but W.T.F. does that make you? At least unlike you I don't make a habit of belittling other opinions like you and that half wit adherent of yours do on a daily basis. His name is Putz or Cannucklehead - take your choice. (If you get bored with rock banging maybe you can dig a hole to pound sand in)




Now you finally understand why you never get any brighter, Half wit! Where's my statement saying a trial is the same as an election?




Go f**k your hat, Dweeb!




You take me for being as Stupid as Bones? Huge mistake...............colossal! :)




Did your mother have any kids who lived? :)




Best just to completely ignore the Asshole, talk about him but not to him as Sleepy would say!

Time for your nap. You're getting extra cranky
 

JLM

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That's not due process. You can't just make up your own definition of due process when using the real one gets you mocked. Sorry, JLM you should have just quit this nonsense a while ago.

What happened here is you felt bad for Roy Moore because he's been accused of being a pedophile, so in order to express that you tried to give it legitimacy by using the rhetoric of civil rights and the law. Unfortunately, people calling him a pedophile has nothing to do with civil rights or the law. That was pointed out to you and now to save face you continue to insist on the same language but with a new definition.

Even more unfortunate for you is that you admit that you yourself would judge Roy Moore based on the accusations against him and not have him around your grandkids. You also say that despite that you wouldn't tell other people about this, leaving other children vulnerable to a predatory. I suspect you only said that to save your crumbling argument. You're better off actually admitting you're wrong then backtracking and looking silly for it.


I think you are making the thing a whole lot more complicated than what it is. "Due process" can be whatever the person who is doing it decides on the procedure. But anyway that is a side point. It's a common sense issue, whatever the alleged crime is. Just because a person or three people or 10 people say a guy is a pedophile (or thief or arsonist or swindler) doesn't necessarily make him one. People exaggerate shit to make their story sound better. In this case the original accusation was made that he had assaulted young women - that's fair enough - true or not it doesn't make him a pedophile. I never said the accusation should be ignored and I would definitely agree with keeping an eye on such a creature, but I wouldn't go around proclaiming him to be a sexual predator or pedophile. What I would do it speak to people who I thought should have the knowledge would be to tell them the accusation that was made and he may bear watching. That protects people from harm without destroying what may turn out to be an innocent man. That's the only point I was trying to make. T- Bones was broadcasting the guy is a child molester and pedophile.........he had no right to do that. Fact is we DON'T KNOW what Roy Moore has been guilty (or not) of. Not sure why you find that so hard to understand. Cannuck has just been a total Asshole through the whole discussion!
 

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In this case the original accusation was made that he had assaulted young women - that's fair enough - true or not it doesn't make him a pedophile.

isn't old people assaulting young people actually the definition of pedophile?
 

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"Due process" can be whatever the person who is doing it decides on the procedure.

Uh-huh

Just because a person or three people or 10 people say a guy is a pedophile (or thief or arsonist or swindler) doesn't necessarily make him one.

OK, if due process is whatever the person who is doing it decides, I'm the person doing it and I've decided that makes him a pedophile.


Furthermore, anyone stridently defending child predators and accusing the victims of fabrication is an enabler of pedophilia. And since under your logic, I can redefine any legal vocabulary I want, I would call these people accomplices. Being an accomplice to certain crimes is as bad as committing it yourself, in terms of penalties anyway. You can see the steps here. Under your new rules, I'm going to call this due process.

People convicted of pedophilia are put on sex offenders lists. So I've determined through my due process that Roy Moore is a pedophile, and since you're defending him, according to my due process you're an accomplice. Due process also dictates that you should be registered as a sex offender.

This is all using your logic.
 

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Sen. Richard Shelby, R-Ala.: “I will not be voting for Judge Moore.” He added he would “write in some distinguished person’s name rather than Judge Moore.” When asked this week if he had any regrets about his decision, Shelby said, “None. None.”

Mitt Romney, 2012 Republican presidential candidate: “Roy Moore in the U.S. Senate would be a stain on the GOP and on the nation. Leigh Corfman and other victims are courageous heroes. No vote, no majority is worth losing our honor, our integrity.”

Sen. Thom Tillis, R-N.C.: “The allegations leveled at Roy Moore are disturbing. I have serious concerns about his prior conduct and fitness for office. He should immediately withdraw from the race.”

Sen. Jeff Flake, R-Ariz.: “I would literally — if I were in Alabama — I would run to the polling place to vote for the Democrat” over Roy Moore. This week on his social media account, Flake posted an image of a $100 check he was sending to the Doug Jones campaign with the accompanying caption, “Country over Party.”

Sen. Bob Corker, R-Tenn.: “Look, I’m sorry, but even before these reports surfaced, Roy Moore’s nomination was a bridge too far.”

Sen. Susan Collins, R-Maine: “I have now read Mr. Moore’s statement and listened to his radio interview in which he denies the charges. I did not find his denials to be convincing and believe that he should withdraw from the Senate race in Alabama.”

Sen. Todd Young, R-Ind.: “The appearance of grossly reprehensible behavior disqualifies him from service in the United States Senate. If he does not step aside, we need to act to protect the integrity of the Senate.”

Sen. Cory Gardner, R-Colo.: “I believe the individuals speaking out against Roy Moore spoke with courage and truth, proving he is unfit to serve in the United States Senate and he should not run for office.”


Sen. Bill Cassidy, R-La.: “Based on the allegations against Roy Moore, his response and what is known, I withdraw support.”

Sen. Mike Lee-R-Utah: “Having read the detailed description of the incidents, as well as the response from Judge Moore and his campaign, I can no longer endorse his candidacy for the U.S. Senate.”

U.S. Attorney General (and former Alabama senator) Jeff Sessions: He said he has “no reason to doubt” Moore’s accusers.

Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz.: “The allegations against Roy Moore are deeply disturbing and disqualifying. He should immediately step aside and allow the people of Alabama to elect a candidate they are proud of.”

Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C.: “In light of the most recent allegations and the cumulative effect of others, I believe Roy Moore would be doing himself, the state, the GOP, and the country a service by stepping aside ... If he continues this will not end well for Mr. Moore.”
 

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What happened here is you felt bad for Roy Moore because he's been accused of being a pedophile,
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Technically, a heterosexual attraction for teenage girls by adult males is termed Ephebophilia. Of course Roy Moore denies any of that. In any case it is NOT Pedophilia. He has never been charged as such, and all the purported incidents occurred decades ago. At worst he is a reformed Ephebophile. And we all know those who are converted to righteousness are the most passionate of all moral crusaders.

Even the Dems and CNN are pretty well resigned to a Roy Moore win. My guess is he'll get at least 55% of the vote which is a decisive victory in these circumstances. The Dems are planning to use their shaming of Al Franken into resignation as their prime poster issue, confirming that they are the Party of Women given the RNC and Trump's support of Moore.

I guess they hope obscure the fact that they are the Party of abortion, homosexuality, euthenasia, moral dissipation and deconstruction of the family.. which victimizes women far more than some trivial harrassment.
 
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Uh-huh



OK, if due process is whatever the person who is doing it decides, I'm the person doing it and I've decided that makes him a pedophile.


Furthermore, anyone stridently defending child predators and accusing the victims of fabrication is an enabler of pedophilia. And since under your logic, I can redefine any legal vocabulary I want, I would call these people accomplices. Being an accomplice to certain crimes is as bad as committing it yourself, in terms of penalties anyway. You can see the steps here. Under your new rules, I'm going to call this due process.

People convicted of pedophilia are put on sex offenders lists. So I've determined through my due process that Roy Moore is a pedophile, and since you're defending him, according to my due process you're an accomplice. Due process also dictates that you should be registered as a sex offender.

This is all using your logic.


https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/due%20process


Mea culpa, I was remiss in my use of the term "due process".
Did I accuse anyone of anything? What proof has been shown so far that Roy Moore is a pedophile? Maybe I'm mistaken but I saw the whole scenario as one of an allegation of a person being one thing morphed into being something else. Let me see if I have this right, because upon hearing an accusation and not running with it I'm aiding and abetting pedophilia. Correct me if I'm wrong. Hey, you have a perfect right to think any way you want, you DON'T have the right to characterize a person publicly without proof.
 

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Technically, a heterosexual attraction for teenage girls by adult males is termed Ephebophilia. Of course Roy Moore denies any of that. In any case it is NOT Pedophilia. He has never been charged as such, and all the purported incidents occurred decades ago. At worst he is a reformed Ephebophile. And we all know those who are converted to righteousness are the most passionate of all moral crusaders.

Even the Dems and CNN are pretty well resigned to a Roy Moore win. My guess he'll get at least 55% of the vote, which is a decisive victory in these circumstances. The Dems are planning to use their shaming of Al Franken into resignation as their prime poster issue, confirming that they are party of Women, given the RNC and Trump's support of Moore. I guess to obscure the fact that they are the Party of abortion, homosexuality, euthenasia and moral dissipation.

The older Roy got the more powerful he got and the more he could get away with. Therefore the things he got away with at 30 as a lawyer probably pale in comparison to things he got away with at 50 as a judge.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/due%20process
What proof has been shown so far that Roy Moore is a pedophile? .

The mountain of evidence against Roy Moore.

read this or stfu


either/or/and
 

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Mea culpa, I was remiss in my use of the term "due process".

OK, that's progress.

Let me see if I have this right, because upon hearing an accusation and not running with it I'm aiding and abetting pedophilia. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Yes, and aiding and abetting pedophilia is a sex crime and so you're a sex offender. That's according to the logic you were trying to implement in redefining "due process". I.E. you said I could make due process whatever I wanted it to be.