Yet Another Teacher Charged With Having Sex With Three Students

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If guilty, I hope she get's put away for just as long as a man would with the same charges.
 

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Yet Another Teacher Charged With Having Sex With Three Students

Thought gerryh would be all over this thread with his outrage and religious prudish comments. :lol:

Do you get all hot 'n bothered when it's a male teacher banging some underage students?

Didn't think so.. That's when you thump your chest with moral outrage and 'please think of the children'.

lemme guess, as it fits in with some perverse adolescent sexual fantasies you have with authority figures that have boobs, it's A-OK, but when the perp has a d*ck, well, then it's worthy of a lynching.

Grow up already and get a pair while you're at it
 

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... at the same time? Health class ain't what it used to be!
 

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Thought gerryh would be all over this thread with his outrage and religious prudish comments. :lol:

My babysitter had her way with me when I was around eight. I don't remember the details but I do remember that she was physically attractive; yet I did not enjoy it one bit and I'm a heterosexual man. To say that I did not enjoy it is an understatement. It even traumatized me to a degree. As adults, we think of it as a beautiful woman fulfilling an adult man's sexual fantasies. For a child (especially one who does not even yet understand sexual arousal), it's an authority figure violating his most intimate boundaries.

Even if I had been sexually developed enough to understand sexual arousal (say if I'd been around twelve or so), it would still have been traumatizing. Again, it's a matter of a person violating another's most intimate personal space against his will, and physical attractiveness has little to do with it.
 

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My babysitter had her way with me when I was around eight. I don't remember the details but I do remember that she was physically attractive; yet I did not enjoy it one bit and I'm a heterosexual man. To say that I did not enjoy it is an understatement. It even traumatized me to a degree. As adults, we think of it as a beautiful woman fulfilling an adult man's sexual fantasies. For a child (especially one who does not even yet understand sexual arousal), it's an authority figure violating his most intimate boundaries.

Even if I had been sexually developed enough to understand sexual arousal (say if I'd been around twelve or so), it would still have been traumatizing. Again, it's a matter of a person violating another's most intimate personal space against his will, and physical attractiveness has little to do with it.

I am sorry that happened to you, but you were pre-pubescent...........and that was a clear case of pedophilia.

These guys were not 8, they were not 12.

They were 16 and 17.

I think most guys today have been laid by the time they were 17.
 

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I am sorry that happened to you, but you were pre-pubescent...........and that was a clear case of pedophilia.

These guys were not 8, they were not 12.

They were 16 and 17.

I think most guys today have been laid by the time they were 17.

I just read the article and you are correct. Undoubtedly the situation is different when the students are 16 and 17. At that age, I wouldn't charge her unless there exists proof of coercion (which, by the way, can include not only physical force but verbal or emotional manipulation, blackmail, etc.) , bearing in mind that that would be extremely difficult to prove of course.

That said, coercion or not, if a teacher is sexually involved with her student, she should at least be fired.
 
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I am sorry that happened to you, but you were pre-pubescent...........and that was a clear case of pedophilia.

These guys were not 8, they were not 12.

They were 16 and 17.

I think most guys today have been laid by the time they were 17.


So, is this was female students fu cked by a male teacher, you'd be ok with it.
 

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Do you get all hot 'n bothered when it's a male teacher banging some underage students?

Didn't think so.. That's when you thump your chest with moral outrage and 'please think of the children'.

lemme guess, as it fits in with some perverse adolescent sexual fantasies you have with authority figures that have boobs, it's A-OK, but when the perp has a d*ck, well, then it's worthy of a lynching.

Grow up already and get a pair while you're at it

Men and women are different.

A little story.....my best friend for almost 50 years started disappearing from the group we hung with when he was 14. Turned out, he was playing with a married woman in her mid 30s............she had approached him on the street, invited him to the house, and performed oral sex on him, which started a relationship that went on for months.

At 14, he was 6 feet tall, with a moustache..........and he grew up to be a complete woman magnet. Unbelievable. I know he was screwing at least two of our high school teachers. I kid you not. And he was like that all his life.

Anyway, we were walking through the old neigbourhood a few years ago...........we passed the initial lady's old house, and he reminisced a bit. I asked him "Weren't you abused?" (Hiding my amusement)

"Abused?" he said "I was privileged!"

So, is this was female students fu cked by a male teacher, you'd be ok with it.

Like I said, male and female are two different things.

And, let me say, this was completely unprofessional of her, and she was rightfully fired.

But the guys as "victims"??

Hardly.
 

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So, is this was female students fu cked by a male teacher, you'd be ok with it.

He should be fired for violating his contract. Beyond that, at 16 and 17, I'd say if fornication is legal, then yes, it should be legal at that age as long as not only consent but free (i.e. non-coerced) consent is involved. If it's coerced consent, it's criminal regardless of the age of the victim.

Again, proving coercion is the problem. Extremely difficult to prove.

Men and women are different.

A little story.....my best friend for almost 50 years started disappearing from the group we hung with when he was 14. Turned out, he was playing with a married woman in her mid 30s............she had approached him on the street, invited him to the house, and performed oral sex on him, which started a relationship that went on for months.

At 14, he was 6 feet tall, with a moustache..........and he grew up to be a complete woman magnet. Unbelievable. I know he was screwing at least two of our high school teachers. I kid you not. And he was like that all his life.

Anyway, we were walking through the old neigbourhood a few years ago...........we passed the initial lady's old house, and he reminisced a bit. I asked him "Weren't you abused?" (Hiding my amusement)

"Abused?" he said "I was privileged!"



Like I said, male and female are two different things.

And, let me say, this was completely unprofessional of her, and she was rightfully fired.

But the guys as "victims"??

Hardly.

Not all 14-year-old straight boys will react like that even with a physically attractive woman. With the age difference, and depending on how he was raised, she could easily coerce him and it could even traumatize some. I'm happy it turned out well for him though.
 

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The Media is playing this one up as a 'provocative' and 'titillating' story because the teacher is attractive and she'll also get a light sentence.

If the teacher was a fat battleaxe, she'd be called a monster and they would throw the book at her.
 

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Like I said, male and female are two different things.

And, let me say, this was completely unprofessional of her, and she was rightfully fired.

But the guys as "victims"??

Hardly.

I don't think men and women are as different as you think. Especially before the age of fifteen, both boys and girls could be coerced into sex through minimal emotional manipulation or physical touching. And if a person has been abused before that age, he /she might then find it more difficult to defend his/her boundaries past that age too and/or become somewhat fearful of emotional bonding with the opposite sex. To be clear, I'm talking about heterosexuals too. In short, such abuse can affect even heterosexual boys even when the perpetrator is an attractive female teacher, and it can affect his future relationships into adulthood too.

I am sorry that happened to you, but you were pre-pubescent...........and that was a clear case of pedophilia.

Not to split hairs, but I do distinguish between pedophilia and child molestation. In spite of my history, I have no problem with pedophiles her se. In fact, I pity their plight and think they should have access to the help they need. Child molesters are a different matter. I like the German solution of offering prisoners chemical castration for a lighter sentence. I'm not sure how that translates to women though. As for my babysitter, though her pedophilia contributed to her molestation, the pedophilia itself would not have harmed me in the least had she kept it to herself. Again, I could sympathize on that part. She might have simply been acting out a trauma of her own from her own abuse. It's her molestation that I think we should condemn, not her pedophilia.
 

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The Media is playing this one up as a 'provocative' and 'titillating' story because the teacher is attractive and she'll also get a light sentence.

If the teacher was a fat battleaxe, she'd be called a monster and they would throw the book at her.

And so it should be. Equality and political correctness is fake.
 

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Like I said, male and female are two different things.

And, let me say, this was completely unprofessional of her, and she was rightfully fired.

But the guys as "victims"??

Hardly.

I get where you're coming from, but it's one helluva slippery slope.

In the end, despite the age of those male students, this lady was in a position of trust, authority and control and she developed a sexual relationship within it. Had this same story rolled-out with 3 consenting female students and a teacher, the gravity of this would be severely different as would the moral outrage associated with it based on those factors mentioned previously regardless of those girls were sexually active within their peer group

I'll wager that those students were beyond the age of consent, meaning that it would not be deemed as statutory rape, however, society has these restrictions (wrong word) in place not just for teachers but also recognizes physicians, psychiatrists, community leaders, coaches, etc, etc. and I believe it has more to do with the potential for some form of pressure or coercion to be applied as opposed to a situation where that doesn't exist

Regardless, while I get your point about the male/female dynamic (I don't know if I agree or not), the underlying actions and the trust/control elements are what's at the heart of the issue and not so much that of gender
 

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Never mind teacher, physician, etc. Even in an 'equal' boyfriend/girlfriend relationship, either party can coerce the other through various forms of pressure or manipulation. Once you add the power dynamic to that, you multiply it a few fold.
 

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Again...

If this female teacher was an ugly battleaxe, it barely would have made the news.