If you have ever had negative thoughts about Yahweh, you are close to a Gnostic Chris

[French Patriot]

If you have ever had negative thoughts about Yahweh, you are close to a Gnostic Christian.

You have shown that you can think freely and have a decent moral sense as compared to Christians and their less than moral sense that allows them to adore a genocidal God.

John Lennon, “It seems to me that the only true Christians were the Gnostics,”

In fact, many think that the best Christians are Gnostic Christians. Even if you are an atheist, you are likely a better Christian than most Christians as their morals have been corrupted by their beliefs enough to have them adore a vile genocidal God that Gnostic Christians call demiurge. In a sense, not that she exists, but demiurge is equivalent to Satan.

Please remember that Gnostic Christians so not hold any supernatural beliefs and religiously speaking, create much more peaceful people than Christians. The Cathars were a good example of this truth.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ptNcSYo7k4

http://thegodabovegod.com/difference-gnostic-christian/

http://thegodabovegod.com/gnostic/

Are you close to a Gnostic Christian in how you can think freely and morally?

Regards
DL

 

[DaSleeper]

 

[taxslave]

Is yahweh sort of like devils club? Cause I have no intention of getting close to them.

 

[Danbones]

Yaw way

When you look into the ocean on a calm night and sea the stars there same as they are in heaven...
"as above, so below"

You realize it's all about navigation.

King James Bible
I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star.
http://biblehub.com/revelation/22-16.htm

LOL! Right from Jesus's own mouth he is saying he is the son of Lucifer the morning star.
You'll also find the roots of the word "David" are "Day" and "see"

King James Bible
And I turned to see the voice that spake with me. And being turned, I saw seven golden candlesticks;

King James Bible
And in the midst of the seven candlesticks one like unto the Son of man, clothed with a garment down to the foot, and girt about the paps with a golden girdle.

King James Bible
His head and his hairs were white like wool, as white as snow; and his eyes were as a flame of fire;

King James Bible
And his feet like unto fine brass, as if they burned in a furnace; and his voice as the sound of many waters.

King James Bible
And he had in his right hand seven stars: and out of his mouth went a sharp twoedged sword: and his countenance was as the sun shineth in his strength.
http://biblehub.com/revelation/1-16.htm

the constellation Orion

 

[gerryh]

Yaw way

When you look into the ocean on a calm night and sea the stars there same as they are in heaven...
"as above, so below"

You realize it's all about navigation.

King James Bible
I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star.
Revelation 22:16 "I, Jesus, have sent my angel to give you this testimony for the churches. I am the Root and the Offspring of David, and the bright Morning Star."

LOL! Right from Jesus's own mouth he is saying he is the son of Lucifer the morning star.
You'll also find the roots of the word "David" are "Day" and "see"

https://www.gotquestions.org/morning-star.html

 

[Danbones]

Yeah if it was just one thing then those definitions might fly, but then you have the word 'Amen" to deal with as well, and when you try to explain that with real facts, then you are back to Orion again.

The other thing is, once you scrape off the BS, there is a whole provable human history that has been hidden just like antifa is doing now pulling down all those statues.
Once you see that, it can't be unseen.

You might wonder one day why the first pharaoh of Egypt also know as Manitu-su in India, and Gitchi Mantou, of the Algonquin people, here in North America, share the same name. The pharaoh's family ruled Mesopotamia from Kish in Mesopotamia, and you will note the occurrence of that term from back in the day everywhere around the Americas.

The Blue kachinas of the Hopi can also be traced back to that same line of kings and people back in their origin (in relation to the ant people that brought them to "this world").

 

[gerryh]

Yeah if it was just one thing then those definitions might fly, but then you have the word 'Amen" to deal with as well, and when you try to explain that with real facts, then you are back to Orion again.

The other thing is, once you scrape off the BS, there is a whole provable human history that has been hidden just like antifa is doing now pulling down all those statues.
Once you see that, it can't be unseen.

You might wonder one day why the first pharaoh of Egypt also know as Manitu-su in India, and Gitchi Mantou, of the Algonquin people, here in North America, share the same name. The pharaoh's family ruled Mesopotamia from Kish in Mesopotamia, and you will note the occurrence of that term from back in the day everywhere around the Americas.

The Blue kachinas of the Hopi can also be traced back to that same line of kings and people back in their origin (in relation to the ant people that brought them to "this world").

It's only confusing for those with a narrow focus. Not confusing for me, at all. You have already decided on the answer, therefore the questions all point to it.

And, no, I have no intention of getting into a long, drawn out discussion with you about something that minds are already locked onto the answers. It would be beyond pointless.

 

[French Patriot]

Is yahweh sort of like devils club? Cause I have no intention of getting close to them.

Many have said that Christianity is the anti-Christ and Gnostic Christians have always seen them that way thanks to what the Gnostic Jesus has said.


Luke 11:52 Woe unto you, lawyers! for ye have taken away the key of knowledge: ye entered not in yourselves, and them that were entering in ye hindered.

Mark 7:13 Making the word of God of none effect through your tradition, which ye have delivered: and many such like things do ye.


His view of the bible compilers continues.


Isaiah 56:11) "They are shepherds who have no understanding; They have all turned to their own way, each on to his unjust gain, to the last one" But do not despair, for the day of judgment is at hand, for the day of judgment and the day of the LORD occupy the same time frame. All the dross will be burned away. (Zech 13:9) & (Malachi 3:3). In that day, "you will distinguish between the righteous and the wicked" (Malachi 3:18)


Regards
DL

 

[taxslave]

Mythology mombojumbo.

 

[French Patriot]

Yaw way

When you look into the ocean on a calm night and sea the stars there same as they are in heaven...
"as above, so below"

You realize it's all about navigation.

King James Bible
I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star.
Revelation 22:16 "I, Jesus, have sent my angel to give you this testimony for the churches. I am the Root and the Offspring of David, and the bright Morning Star."

LOL! Right from Jesus's own mouth he is saying he is the son of Lucifer the morning star.
You'll also find the roots of the word "David" are "Day" and "see"

King James Bible
And I turned to see the voice that spake with me. And being turned, I saw seven golden candlesticks;

King James Bible
And in the midst of the seven candlesticks one like unto the Son of man, clothed with a garment down to the foot, and girt about the paps with a golden girdle.

King James Bible
His head and his hairs were white like wool, as white as snow; and his eyes were as a flame of fire;

King James Bible
And his feet like unto fine brass, as if they burned in a furnace; and his voice as the sound of many waters.

King James Bible
And he had in his right hand seven stars: and out of his mouth went a sharp twoedged sword: and his countenance was as the sun shineth in his strength.
Revelation 1:16 In his right hand he held seven stars, and coming out of his mouth was a sharp, double-edged sword. His face was like the sun shining in all its brilliance.

the constellation Orion

The esoteric way of reading scriptures is definitely better than the literalist Idol worshiping way.


Good for you.


This guy has some decent videos on many aspects that you might find interesting.


I do not agree with all he says but on some issues he is on the mark.

Regards
DL

Mythology mombojumbo.

A lot of it, yes, if you read it literally.


Not so if you read it from an esoteric POV.


Try this link if you have the time. It makes sense out of the mumbo jumbo.

Regards
DL

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

Is yahweh sort of like devils club? Cause I have no intention of getting close to them.

Nah, mon, it be de way you goin'. Like goin' my way or goin' yah way.

If all your posts are about your stupid-ass religion, you are close to being a fanatic.

Like selfsame and Frenchy.

 

[French Patriot]

Nah, mon, it be de way you goin'. Like goin' my way or goin' yah way.

If all your posts are about your stupid-ass religion, you are close to being a fanatic.

Like selfsame and Frenchy.

Both Christianity and Islam have basically developed into intolerant, homophobic and misogynous religions. Both religions have grown themselves by the sword instead of good deeds and continue with their immoral ways in spite of secular law showing them the moral ways.

Jesus said we would know his people by their works and deeds. That means Jesus would not recognize Christians and Muslims as his people, and neither do I. Jesus would call Christianity and Islam abominations.

Gnostic Christians did in the past, and I am proudly continuing that tradition and honest irrefutable evaluation based on morality.

Regards
DL

 

[Walter]

I prefer two-ply toilet paper over one-ply.

 

[TenPenny]

I prefer two-ply toilet paper over one-ply.

I'm surprised you use it at all; your posts suggest that you lick your fingers after using them to wipe your butt.

 

[Walter]

I'm surprised you use it at all; your posts suggest that you lick your fingers after using them to wipe your butt.

Not everyone licks their fingers after wiping like you do, butt, to each their own.

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

I prefer two-ply toilet paper over one-ply.

Clog up your pipes, Walter. One-ply is my way, but I guess two-ply is yah way.

 

[Walter]

Clog up your pipes, Walter. One-ply is my way, but I guess two-ply is yah way.

You need better pipes.

 

[ZulFiqar786]

Both Christianity and Islam have basically developed into intolerant, homophobic and misogynous religions. Both religions have grown themselves by the sword instead of good deeds and continue with their immoral ways in spite of secular law showing them the moral ways.

Jesus said we would know his people by their works and deeds. That means Jesus would not recognize Christians and Muslims as his people, and neither do I. Jesus would call Christianity and Islam abominations.

Gnostic Christians did in the past, and I am proudly continuing that tradition and honest irrefutable evaluation based on morality.

Regards
DL

I tend to disagree. The historical Jesus was an apocalyptic Jewish rabbi, the complete opposite of his portrayal in film, literature and art as some kind of hippie preaching peace and love. You can discern hints of this historical reality in the so-called canonical Gospels, but only subtly. Apocalypticism is inherently against the present world order. The subsequent Jewish revolts against the Romans were motivated by apocalypticism and messianism. Think about the Bar Kochba revolt, but also those of John of Giscala and Simon Bar Giora. If you really want to understand who Jesus was and what his message was, you have to understand the historical context of the Roman occupation of Judea. You have to strip away the subsequent theology and religion that was built around the person of Jesus to get to the heart of the matter. If Jesus were alive today, he would most certainly not win a Nobel Peace Prize, he would be considered a radical and fanatical preacher that has no time for people living comfortable lives and benefit from the political system that dominates the world. In fact, whether or not the historical Jesus was organizing a violent movement and his attitude to violence or an armed uprising against the Romans is still a disputed question which the jury is out on. It is an interesting question but I won’t touch on it yet.




As for your points about homophobia and misogyny, again this is due to your total ignorance about the historical Jesus as an apocalyptic preacher in his particular historical context. In his day, the issues of “homophobia” and “misogyny” were simply not issues. Nor did Jesus ever preach a revolutionary idea against what we in the modern world perceive as misogyny and “homophobia”. We can therefore confidently assume that Jesus held the same view on these issues (which have only become issues in modern times) as his fellow countrymen, i.e., 1st century Jews. So if Jesus were alive today, I doubt he would be accepting of homosexuality or agree with feminism’s attack on traditional gender roles.

 

[MHz]

I'm sure that will impress God to no end. Abraham was allowed to argue with Christ when He was on the way to witness the destruction of Sodom. Did it change anything, no.
I also doubt if it matters to God how far non-believers are across the dividing line.

 

[French Patriot]

I tend to disagree. The historical Jesus was an apocalyptic Jewish rabbi, the complete opposite of his portrayal in film, literature and art as some kind of hippie preaching peace and love. You can discern hints of this historical reality in the so-called canonical Gospels, but only subtly. Apocalypticism is inherently against the present world order. The subsequent Jewish revolts against the Romans were motivated by apocalypticism and messianism. Think about the Bar Kochba revolt, but also those of John of Giscala and Simon Bar Giora. If you really want to understand who Jesus was and what his message was, you have to understand the historical context of the Roman occupation of Judea. You have to strip away the subsequent theology and religion that was built around the person of Jesus to get to the heart of the matter. If Jesus were alive today, he would most certainly not win a Nobel Peace Prize, he would be considered a radical and fanatical preacher that has no time for people living comfortable lives and benefit from the political system that dominates the world. In fact, whether or not the historical Jesus was organizing a violent movement and his attitude to violence or an armed uprising against the Romans is still a disputed question which the jury is out on. It is an interesting question but I won’t touch on it yet.




As for your points about homophobia and misogyny, again this is due to your total ignorance about the historical Jesus as an apocalyptic preacher in his particular historical context. In his day, the issues of “homophobia” and “misogyny” were simply not issues. Nor did Jesus ever preach a revolutionary idea against what we in the modern world perceive as misogyny and “homophobia”. We can therefore confidently assume that Jesus held the same view on these issues (which have only become issues in modern times) as his fellow countrymen, i.e., 1st century Jews. So if Jesus were alive today, I doubt he would be accepting of homosexuality or agree with feminism’s attack on traditional gender roles.

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Nicely thought out reply. Thanks.


I am not ignorant of Jesus as an apocalyptic preacher. That particular Jesus is more of a Gnostic Christian Jesus than the Rome created immoral pacifist wimpy Jesus.


I like the Jesus that is the two sided sword that praises good and fights against evil.


I disagree with your thinking that back then homophobia and misogyny were not issues. If they were not, Christianity would not have reinforced the notions that, he will rule over you, (uppity woman), and you shall not teach or preach in church (you uppity woman), nor would the church have bothered to condemn men laying with men.


The equality that Gnostic Jesus preached is shown in the gospel of Thomas where the disciples are chastised for not accepting Mary Madeleine as Jesus' favorite. That fiction was written to show the right thinking of equality that Gnostic must preach as it is a Universalist tradition that most accept all souls as equal.


That fact alone proves that we are a superior tradition to mainstream religions like Christianity and Islam.


Regards
DL

I'm sure that will impress God to no end. Abraham was allowed to argue with Christ when He was on the way to witness the destruction of Sodom. Did it change anything, no.
I also doubt if it matters to God how far non-believers are across the dividing line.

Christ was not yet born in the days of Abraham and Sodom is a hospitality myth.


As to your last, I agree as imaginary Gods can have no opinions.


Why do you read a Jewish myth literally when the old Jews do not?


http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/03132009/watch.html


Rabbi Hillel, the older contemporary of Jesus, said that when asked to sum up the whole of Jewish teaching, while he stood on one leg, said, "The Golden Rule. That which is hateful to you, do not do to your neighbor. That is the Torah. And everything else is only commentary. Now, go and study it."


Please listen as to what is said about literal reading.



"Origen, the great second or third century Greek commentator on the Bible said that it is absolutely impossible to take these texts literally. You simply cannot do so. And he said, "God has put these sort of conundrums and paradoxes in so that we are forced to seek a deeper meaning."



Matt 7;12 So in everything, do to others what you would have them do to you, for this sums up the Law and the Prophets.


Regards
DL