10.5 million dollar compensation offer too Omar Khadr

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$10.5 million, what's done is done.. the Gov't made it's choice and handed him the money.. I'm not so mad about that as I am the a Ontario Judge that blocked a Judgement that was already won against Omar from the family of the deceased medic. That is what pisses me off the most.

The Ontario court didn't block sweet f uck all. All they did was say they wouldn't put a hold on the money as the complainants couldn't prove that the money would surely disappear. At this time, the u.s. judgement has no legal standing in Canada.

The Americans have had lots of time to try and get their judgment recognized here, and they haven't.
 

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Paul Martin: Khadr case mishandled by a succession of governments
The Canadian Press
First posted: Thursday, August 10, 2017 04:28 PM EDT | Updated: Thursday, August 10, 2017 11:37 PM EDT
HALIFAX — Former prime minister Paul Martin said he thinks a federal payout to Omar Khadr could have been avoided had Ottawa handled the situation differently from the start.
Speaking after receiving an award in Halifax, Martin told The Canadian Press he wishes Ottawa had taken a different approach in the early stages of the Khadr case, but his own government had to work with the hand it had been dealt.
“I think it was a situation that was not well handled by a succession of governments, and I think obviously hindsight demonstrates that,” Martin said in a phone interview Thursday. “Unfortunately, we continued with the precedent that had been established by ... previous governments, and certainly one could argue that more could have been done at that stage, and I wish it had been.”
In 2002, the Canadian-born Khadr was imprisoned in the notorious U.S. detention facility in Guantanamo, Cuba, accused of killing an American soldier/medic during a firefight in Afghanistan at the age of 15.
Martin, who became prime minister in late 2003 after serving in the previous Liberal cabinet, said he feels the Khadr case was on track for a federal settlement by the time he came to power.
“Really, by the time we came along, the courts had already decided the payments were there,” he said. “If your question is if the thing had been handled from the very beginning, then the answer is yes (a payout could have been avoided), but it was not handled differently at the very beginning.”
The Supreme Court of Canada ruled in 2010 that Canadian authorities violated Khadr’s charter rights when they interrogated him there, despite the fact he was a minor, had no legal representation and had been tortured.
Khadr subsequently launched a $20-million civil suit against the Canadian government. That was settled in July when the government reportedly paid him $10.5 million rather than pursue what officials said would have been a costly court battle that the government had no hope of winning.
Martin, who has spent much of his post-government life working on education initiatives for Indigenous children, received the Samuel Cunard Prize for Vision, Courage and Creativity on board the Queen Mary 2 cruise liner at the Halifax waterfront Thursday.
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Ok, here is a hypothetical.......imagine that khadr was on canadian soil, illegally tortured, rights violated...........are the CSIS investigators that fly in, and fly out, are they responsible for the violations of rights? No. Are they expectd to be kadr's gaurdian angel/advocate? No. Are they supposed to be diplomats that negotiate on kadr's behalf? NO. Did they torture Kadr? No. Did they have any authority to act on kadr's behalf? No.

So a kadr on canadian soil would have had grounds to sue the government but the CSIS investigators would not be part of the court case? Imo, i dont think they would be.
 

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Americans seeking enforcement of U.S. judgment against Omar Khadr in Alberta
Colin Perkel, THE CANADIAN PRESS
First posted: Thursday, August 24, 2017 02:35 PM EDT | Updated: Thursday, August 24, 2017 03:21 PM EDT
TORONTO — Canadian lawyers acting for the widow of an American special forces soldier have filed an application in Alberta — essentially duplicating one filed earlier in Ontario — seeking enforcement of a massive U.S. damages award against former Guantanamo Bay detainee Omar Khadr.
The claim calls on the Court of Queen’s Bench to recognize the judgment from Utah, and to issue a “corresponding” judgment in the amount of $173.88 million — the Canadian value of the US$132.1-million American award made in June 2015.
“Given that Canada has substantially similar legislation in relation to civil actions for victims of terrorism, it is entirely consistent with the fundamental public policy of Canada to enforce the U.S. judgment,” the notice states. “There are no defences to enforcement and recognition that operate in favour of the defendant in this case.”
According to the notice, bringing the Alberta action in parallel with the Ontario case is proper “given the territorial limitations of the respective judgment-enforcement regimes.”
Calgary-based lawyer Dan Gilborn refused to discuss the proceedings on Thursday, saying his office was not authorized to comment.
While the Alberta action was filed in early July amid word that the federal government was paying Khadr $10.5 million to settle a civil lawsuit, the lawyers acting for the Americans said they were having trouble serving notice on him.
“We have thus far been unable to locate Mr. Khadr for personal service, although we are aware that he has been residing in Edmonton, Alta., for much of the past two years,” Gilborn wrote Aug. 14 in a letter to Khadr’s lawyers, a copy of which was obtained by The Canadian Press.
One of Khadr’s Edmonton-based lawyers, Nate Whitling, said on Thursday that it would be a waste of time and money to try two identical actions at once.
“It’s two duplicative actions and there’s no point in proceeding with both of them,” Whitling said from Edmonton.
He also said the Alberta action had been filed too late.
Both actions — the Ontario one was filed June 8 — are on behalf of relatives of U.S. special forces Sgt. Chris Speer, who was killed in Afghanistan in July 2002.
Speer had been part of a massive American assault on an insurgent compound, where Khadr, then 15 years old, was captured badly wounded. Retired U.S. sergeant Layne Morris, who was blinded in one eye during the same operation, is a co-applicant.
The applications — like the uncontested civil suit in Utah — lean heavily on Khadr’s guilty plea before a widely discredited military commission in Guantanamo Bay in 2010 to having thrown the grenades that killed Speer and blinded Morris. Khadr later said his confession to five purported war crimes was his only way out of the infamous prison and to return to Canada.
Khadr, 30, who recently got married, has been on bail in Edmonton for the past two years pending his appeal in the U.S. of his commission convictions.
The Americans failed last month to get an injunction freezing Khadr’s assets — including the $10.5-million sources said the federal government paid him — pending outcome of the Ontario enforcement action.
However, in previous Ontario filings, Whitling argued against enforcement of the Utah judgment given its reliance on the military commission. Canadian courts are statute barred from enforcing foreign judgments that offend Canada’s public policy, he noted, and the Supreme Court has found the Guantanamo system contrary to Canadians’ concept of justice.
“Officials at the highest levels of the Canadian government have already stated...that (Khadr’s) detention and prosecution in GTMO offended our most basic values and principles,” Whitling said in court filings.
Americans seeking enforcement of U.S. judgment against Omar Khadr in Alberta | C
 

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Omar Khadr wants unsupervised contact with his pro-al-Qaida sister, more freedom to travel
Colin Perkel, THE CANADIAN PRESS
First posted: Sunday, August 27, 2017 11:55 AM EDT | Updated: Sunday, August 27, 2017 12:20 PM EDT
TORONTO — Former Guantanamo Bay detainee Omar Khadr returns to court this week to ask that his bail conditions be eased, including allowing him unfettered contact with his controversial older sister, more freedom to move around Canada, and unrestricted internet access.
In support of his request, Khadr notes the conditions originally imposed two years ago were necessary as a graduated integration plan following his 13 years in American and Canadian custody. No issues have arisen since his release and the various restrictions have been revised several times — most recently in May last year, he says.
Currently, Khadr, 30, can only have contact with his sister Zaynab if one of his lawyers or bail supervisor is present. The condition is no longer necessary, he says.
“I am now an adult and I think independently,” he says in an affidavit. “Even if the members of my family were to wish to influence my religious or other views, they would not be able to control or influence me in any negative manner.”
Zaynab Khadr, 37, who recently had a fourth child in Egypt, according to court filings obtained by The Canadian Press, was detained in Turkey a year ago for an expired visa. She and her fourth husband subsequently moved to Malaysia but are now said to be living in Sudan and planning to visit Canada.
“I would like to be able to spend time with her and the rest of our family when she is here,” Omar Khadr states. “As far as I am aware, Zaynab is not involved in any criminal activities and is frequently in contact with the Canadian embassy in order to ensure that her paperwork is up to date.”
Zaynab Khadr, who was born in Ottawa, was at one point unable to get a Canadian passport after frequently reporting hers lost. She was also subject to an RCMP investigation in 2005 but faced no charges. Her third husband, Canadian Joshua Boyle, is reportedly still a Taliban hostage along with his American wife and children in Afghanistan. In 2008, she went on a hunger strike on Parliament Hill to draw attention to her brother’s plight as an American captive in Guantanamo Bay.
Several years ago, she and her mother infuriated many Canadians by expressing pro-al-Qaida views. Omar Khadr told The Canadian Press last month that he saw no point in decrying their views.
“I’m not excusing what they said. I’m not justifying what they said,” Khadr said. “They were going through a hard time. They said things out of anger or frustration.”
Khadr, who recently married, says a college in Red Deer, Alta., about a half hour from where he spent time in maximum security after his return from Guantanamo Bay, has accepted him into its nursing program. He says he plans to leave his Edmonton apartment at the end of September and find new accommodation.
In another bail-variation request the court in Edmonton will consider on Thursday, Khadr asks for an end to a condition that he provide his supervisor notice about his travel plans within Alberta, and that he obtain permission to travel outside the province. Requiring him to remain in Canada would be sufficient, the documents state. He also wants restrictions on accessing computers or the internet lifted.
In May 2015, Alberta Court of Queen’s Bench Justice June Ross granted Khadr bail pending appeal of his conviction by a widely maligned U.S. military commission for five purported war crimes. The appeal in the States has stalled through circumstances outside his control and nothing has changed since his release, his filing says.
Khadr found himself at the centre of a fierce political firestorm amid word last month that the Canadian government, which apologized to him for breaching his rights, had paid him $10.5 million in compensation. He says he just wants to get on with his life.
“I wish to become independent and to put my legal matters behind me,” he says in his affidavit. “I am a law-abiding citizen and I wish to live free of court-imposed conditions.”
American soldiers captured a badly wounded Khadr, then 15 years old, in July 2002 following a fierce assault on a compound in Afghanistan in which a U.S. special forces soldier was killed. Khadr later said he pleaded guilty before the commission to throwing the deadly grenade as a way out of American detention. He returned to Canada in 2012 to serve out the rest of the eight-year sentence he was given.
Omar Khadr (inset) wants unsupervised visits with his sister Zaynab Khadr, who is seen in this 2009 file photo on the left with their mother Maha El Samnah. (Brett Gundlock/Postmedia/THE CANADIAN PRESS/Colin Perkel)

Omar Khadr wants unsupervised contact with his pro-al-Qaida sister, more freedom
 

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Hearing seeking easing of Omar Khadr's bail conditions cancelled
Dean Bennett, THE CANADIAN PRESS
First posted: Thursday, August 31, 2017 07:31 AM EDT | Updated: Thursday, August 31, 2017 11:42 AM EDT
EDMONTON — A hearing to determine whether bail conditions for former Guantanamo Bay detainee Omar Khadr should be eased allowing him unsupervised visits with his controversial sister did not go ahead as planned Thursday.
It was put over to Sept. 15 after lawyers for the Justice Department said they needed time to consult with the federal government.
“The Crown requested an adjournment to receive instructions,” Khadr’s lawyer Nate Whitling said Thursday. “We agreed and the matter’s been rescheduled.”
Khadr is seeking unrestricted internet access and more freedom to move around Canada while on bail pending the appeal of his conviction by a U.S. military commission for five purported war crimes.
Khadr, now 30, has been free on bail for more than two years and notes no issues have arisen since his release.
Right now, he can only have contact with his sister Zaynab Khadr if one of his lawyers or bail supervisor is present.
Several years ago, Zaynab and her mother infuriated many Canadians by expressing support for the al-Qaida terrorist group.
In 2005, Zaynab was investigated by RCMP for allegedly aiding al-Qaida, but no charges were filed. She is now reportedly living in Sudan with her fourth husband, but is planning a visit to Canada. Khadr is arguing he wants to reconnect with his family and is old enough that he can’t be negatively swayed.
Thursday’s hearing is the next phase in a 15-year legal journey for Khadr that has ignited sharp and divisive debate among Canadians over terrorism, human rights and the rule of law.
The Toronto-born Khadr spent years in U.S. detention at Guantanamo Bay after he was caught when he was 15 and accused of tossing a grenade that killed special forces soldier Christopher Speer at a militant compound in Afghanistan in 2002.
In 2010, Khadr pleaded guilty to multiple charges before a U.S. military commission, including to killing Speer, but has since said he can’t remember if he tossed the fatal grenade. He has said he entered the plea to try to get out of Guantanamo, where he says he was mistreated, and into the Canadian justice system.
He returned to Canada in 2012 to serve out the rest of the eight-year sentence he was given.
Canada’s Supreme Court ruled in 2010 that Khadr’s charter rights were violated at Guantanamo and Canadian officials contributed to that violation.
Khadr filed a $20-million lawsuit against the government and last month it was revealed he had settled the case for a reported $10.5 million. That set off a fierce debate.
Khadr has said he wants to get on with his life. He recently married and plans to move to the city of Red Deer, halfway between Edmonton and Calgary, to begin studies to become a nurse.
— With files from Colin Perkel in Toronto
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Omar Khadr visits with sister remain restricted, but can use internet freely
Dean Bennett, THE CANADIAN PRESS
First posted: Friday, September 15, 2017 01:06 PM EDT | Updated: Friday, September 15, 2017 03:51 PM EDT
EDMONTON — Former Guantanamo Bay detainee Omar Khadr has been denied unsupervised visits with his controversial older sister who has expressed support for al-Qaida.
Justice June Ross ruled Friday that Khadr and his lawyer, Nathan Whitling, have offered nothing new to allay security concerns surrounding Zaynab Khadr, who is currently believed to be in Sudan.
Zaynab Khadr, 37, has spoken in favour of al-Qaida and was investigated in Canada more than a decade ago for helping the terrorist network, but she was never charged.
She is reportedly planning a trip to Canada, and the rules of Khadr’s bail allow him to meet with her but only in the presence of his bail supervisor or one of his lawyers.
Whitling argued in Court of Queen’s Bench that the restriction is no longer necessary. He said Khadr, 30, is old enough and mature enough not to be swayed by anyone else.
“The passage of time makes a big difference,” Whitling told Ross as Khadr sat behind him in the public gallery Friday. “The idea that someone’s sister will turn him into a different person is no longer a concern.”
He noted that Zaynab “may have made some unfortunate media statements” but there is no evidence of wrongdoing.
Bruce Hughson, a lawyer representing the federal government, told Ross that Khadr has provided no new evidence on Zaynab Khadr’s terrorism views that would justify changing the bail rules.
Ross agreed. She said the restriction was put in place for a reason and Whitling needs to show evidence — besides the passage of time — to justify amending the order.
“The defence has not provided relevant evidence to show a change of circumstances,” Ross said.
Outside court, Whitling said that would require an affidavit from Zaynab Khadr who is out of the country.
“It’s a possibility I suppose,” he said.
Khadr is on bail while he appeals war crime convictions by a U.S. military commission. He declined to make any comment outside court.
Whitling said his client was disappointed.
“He does want to be able to contact his sister and he doesn’t see how he’ll be able to speak to his nieces and nephews without having some sort of supervisor present.”
Toronto-born Khadr spent years in U.S. detention at Guantanamo Bay after he was caught when he was 15 and accused of tossing a grenade that killed special forces soldier Christopher Speer at a militant compound in Afghanistan in 2002.
In 2010, Khadr pleaded guilty to multiple charges before the military commission, including to killing Speer, but has since said he can’t remember if he tossed the grenade.
He has said he entered the plea to try to get out of Guantanamo, where he says he was mistreated, and into the Canadian justice system.
He is now married and is moving to Red Deer, south of Edmonton, to begin earning a nursing degree.
While awaiting his appeal hearing, Khadr has sought a loosening of a number of bail restrictions.
Ross did allow a change to Khadr’s internet use. He had been restricted to personal internet devices and subject to checks.
Whitling argued that the internet is available everywhere on multiple devices — at friends’ homes and in public places — and that there is no way for Khadr to avoid it.
Ross agreed to expand Khadr’s internet use as long as he doesn’t use the web to seek out terrorist propaganda or organizations.
Khadr also needs permission to travel outside Alberta. Whitling said Khadr has made multiple trips to Ontario to visit family without incident and should only have to notify authorities when travelling outside his home province.
Ross denied that request. She said the current approach seems to be working fine without undue hardship to Khadr.
His 15-year-old case ignited sharp and divisive debate among Canadians over terrorism, human rights and the rule of law this summer when it was revealed the federal government had settled a lawsuit filed by him for a reported $10.5 million.
The payout followed a ruling by Canada’s Supreme Court in 2010 that Khadr’s charter rights were violated at Guantanamo and that Canadian officials contributed to that violation.
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Omar Khadr never did anything wrong, never committed a single crime. He deserves millions of more dollars in reality. Nevertheless, I’m glad he has got some semblance of justice and hopes he uses his money wisely and doesn’t waste it
 

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Omar Khadr never did anything wrong, never committed a single crime. He deserves millions of more dollars in reality. Nevertheless, I’m glad he has got some semblance of justice and hopes he uses his money wisely and doesn’t waste it

Probably your idea of using it wisely would be to finance terrorism in Canada non?
 

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Probably your idea of using it wisely would be to finance terrorism in Canada non?
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Not at all. He should fund construction of more mosques, Islamic schools and anything else to help our community. He is no terrorist, but rather an innocent person that was mistreated because of racism.
 

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Omar Khadr never did anything wrong, never committed a single crime. He deserves millions of more dollars in reality. Nevertheless, I’m glad he has got some semblance of justice and hopes he uses his money wisely and doesn’t waste it


The only reason Khadr was given money was in order to avoid an even bigger pay-out should the case go to court. He will be closely watched for the rest of his life due to his connection to his jihadist family especially his sister and I am glad to hear visits with the latter will be strictly monitored.

 

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The only reason Khadr was given money was in order to avoid an even bigger pay-out should the case go to court. He will be closely watched for the rest of his life due to his connection to his jihadist family especially his sister and I am glad to hear visits with the latter will be strictly monitored.

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Omar Khadr is a great man. I wish him the best. He is very brave and courageous. Btw, he killed the American soldier in self-defense. How is that a crime? In war both sides shoot at each other. That is the reality of war. When a prisoner of war is captured he has rights under Geneva convention. A captured enemy soldier isn’t a criminal. The Taliban are not terrorists, they are a legitimate army that is fighting to liberate their country from American colonial occupation and its puppet government. Canada should completely withdraw from any involvement in all foreign wars that America is involved in. The real terrorist is American military which illegally invaded Iraq and Afghanistan, and is also arming the Saudis to massacre innocent Yemeni civilians. Canada must distance itself from America’s war crimes.