Young girl finds sword in lake where Excalibur was thrown

[Blackleaf]

A seven-year-old school girl had a legendary holiday after pulling a giant four-foot sword from the Cornish lake where Bedivere threw Excalibur.

Matilda Jones was wading through water waist-deep at Dozmary Pool when she stumbled across the blade underwater.

According to folklore, Dozmary Pool is the spot where Bedivere returned Excalibur after King Arthur was fatally wounded in the Battle of Camlann...

Schoolgirl has legendary holiday after pulling 4ft sword from Cornish lake 'where Arthur's Excalibur was thrown' (good job she's named after a famous English queen)

Matilda Jones found the sword in Dozmary Pool during a family trip to Cornwall
Legend claims Bedivere returned Excalibur to lake after Battle of Camlann
But family believe sword is only around 30 years old and likely to be film prop

By Alex Matthews For Mailonline
3 September 2017

A seven-year-old school girl had a legendary holiday after pulling a giant four-foot sword from the Cornish lake where Dedivere threw Excalibur.

Matilda Jones was wading through water waist-deep at Dozmary Pool when she stumbled across the blade underwater.

According to folklore, Dozmary Pool is the spot where Bedivere returned Excalibur after King Arthur was fatally wounded in the Battle of Camlann

Matilda Jones was wading through water at Dozmary Pool in Cornwall when she stumbled across a four-foot sword

It is said to have been accepted by the Lady of the Lake, whose arm mysteriously rose from the water to received the fabled blade.

Ironically, her father Paul Jones, 51, had recounted the story of King Arthur to Matilda and her sister Lois, four, moments before the discovery.

Mr Jones, from Doncaster in South Yorkshire, said: 'It was a blistering hot day and Matilda asked if we could go for a paddle.

'She was only waist deep when she said she could see a sword.

'I told her not to be silly and it was probably a bit of fencing, but when I looked down I realised it was a sword. It was just there laying flat on the bottom of the lake.

'The sword is 4ft long - exactly Matilda's height.'

The giant blade is exactly Matilda's height and her father believes it may have been left in the lake while a film was being shot there

Legend has it that King Arthur first received Excalibur from the Lady of Lake in Dozmary Pool after rowing out to receive it.

After being mortally wounded he asked to be taken there so he could return the sword to her.

After three attempts, his loyal follower Bedivere cast it into the water and the Lady of the Lake's arm rose to receive it.

The pool, in the civil parish of Altarnun on Bodmin Moor, was said to be bottomless until droughts in 1859 and 1976 dried it out completely and revealed it is, in fact, a shallow pond.

According to British legend, Dozmary Pool is where King Arthur rowed out to the Lady of the Lake and received the sword Excalibur. The pool is also the place where Bedivere returned Excalibur as Arthur lay dying after the Battle of Camlann

Matilda shares her name with Empress Matilda, the daughter of King Henry I and heir to the English throne in the 12th century.

While it may be exciting to believe a young girl with such a regal name has written her own chapter in the Arthurian legend, her father thinks the sword's origins are more recent.

Mr Jones said: 'I don't think it's particularly old. It's probably an old film prop.'

Queen Matilda: Heir to the throne

Empress Matilda was the daughter of Henry I, King of England.

She moved to Germany as a child and later married Holy Roman Emperor Henry V in 1114, when she was just 12 years old.

The union produced no children and the Emperor died in 1125.

But the death of her brother in the sinking of the White Ship off Normandy in 1120 made her the heir to the throne of England.

In 1127 she married Geoffrey of Anjou, who would later become Duke of Normandy, and had three sons.

However, female rulers were unpopular at the time and her cousin Stephen of Blois had himself crowned King of England.

Matilda's claim to the throne was supported by her half brother, Robert of Gloucester and uncle, David I of Scotland.

Matilda and Robert landed at Arundel, West Sussex, in September 1139 and England was thrown into civil war - The Anarchy

After two years of fighting, Stephen was captured at Lincoln and Matilda took control of England.

But she was not a popular ruler and was never awarded a coronation.

Stephen was later released in exchange for Robert of Gloucester and the civil war waged on.

But Robert died in 1147, leaving a grief-stricken Matilda to return to France.

Her son Henry took up the fighting, but was also forced to flee across the Channel.

He was crowned King Henry II of England after the death of Stephen's son Eustace in 1154. He was the first Plantagenet king

Source: BBC

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[taxslave]

Probably not the only sword left laying about in England.

 

[Blackleaf]

Probably not the only sword left laying about in England.

The Kirkburn Sword, 300-200BC, found near the small village of Kirkburn in East Yorkshire...

 

[White_Unifier]

Don't British film crews pick up after themselves or is it normal for them to just throw things around and let them rust there?

 

[Bar Sinister]

I don't doubt that some smart ass tossed that rusted chunk of iron into the lake as a lark decades ago. He was probably surprised that it took so long to find it.

 

[Curious Cdn]

That sword looks like it is all of ten years old. Maybe, it was forged in the same magic smithy as the Loch Ness "monster" was.

 

[darkbeaver]

Arthur was never in England. He's a proven fictional character.

 

[Danbones]

I have excliber i pulled it from a rock

The king Ca of Cain Canaan and caduceus fame would be the correct guy.

 

[White_Unifier]

Arthur was never in England. He's a proven fictional character.

Technically, historians refer to him as a legendary figure, meaning that we simply don't know if he existed or not. That said, it's clear that the stories about him have unquestionably been embellished if he did exist.

 

[Danbones]

You'll note the name "ex caliber" ( yeah king CA again!)
X is greek for the cross..do i have to explain the word caliber too?

THINK!
If you know the right old piece of math you can change 360 into decimals
so it's not the prince of PEACE its the prince of PIECE
( that's why all the angles in the halo around the head)

Did you miss they found trig tables in base 60 from Mesopotamia thousands of years older then they though they had the ability to do them?
They are more accurate then the tables we have today?

Researchers Discover Babylonian Tablet Is Ancient Trig Table
The table of trigonometric values was made more than a thousand years before math historians thought trigonometry was invented.
http://www.popularmechanics.com/sci...over-babylonian-tablet-is-ancient-trig-table/

navigation surveying and building

the mythical sh!t is just copyright protection
(please note the word celtic is pronounced Caltic)

 

[Curious Cdn]

Arthur was never in England. He's a proven fictional character.

Arthur was Welsh, anyway and the Welsh oral tradition is about one of their kings standing up to the Saxon invaders and trying to prevent an "England" from coming into existence. It is not crazy, beyond belief than the Welsh story is based somehow on an historic (failed) military leader.

 

[Danbones]

haha
he existed long before wales did
try back 7 thousand years ago when there were red haired people living in florida

[youtube]YW_qutaoYwY[/youtube]
..back when whitey was sailing the world..and surveying it, and building on it.

White Caucasian red haired mummies were found in Florida's Windover Bog. The mummies dated to be over 7000 years old.

You'll note "Thor" and "Arthur"...
The cross is the hammer only Thor could swing because you have to know the codes and have the star charts or antkytheria machines.
The alphabet came to us from these same folks too.

That's why the pirate skull symbol has one eye covered.

Odin gave up an eye getting runes.

These are all the same people - names changed a bit by language translation and time, but still if you check out the stellar math in all the myths it leaves no doubt about it.
(CAlanish...you dig?)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Callanish_Stones

Unless you have a better explanation as to why the symbols at the four points of the compass are the same ones as the beginning wave forms on all my synthesizers.
N.E.W.S. (triangle, square, sawtooth, and sine)
The singing sword buddy

 

[White_Unifier]

All this talk of Arthur reminds me of Tennyson's Idylls of the King.

For many a petty king ere Arthur came
Ruled in this isle, and ever waging war
Each upon other, wasted all the land;
And still from time to time the heathen host
Swarmed overseas, and harried what was left.
And so there grew great tracts of wilderness,
Wherein the beast was ever more and more,
But man was less and less, till Arthur came.
For first Aurelius lived and fought and died,
And after him King Uther fought and died,
But either failed to make the kingdom one.
And after these King Arthur for a space,
And through the puissance of his Table Round,
Drew all their petty princedoms under him,
Their king and head, and made a realm, and reigned.

https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/The_Coming_of_Arthur

 

[Curious Cdn]

haha
he existed long before wales did
try back 7 thousand years ago when there were red haired people living in florida

[youtube]YW_qutaoYwY[/youtube]
..back when whitey was sailing the world..and surveying it, and building on it.

White Caucasian red haired mummies were found in Florida's Windover Bog. The mummies dated to be over 7000 years old.

You'll note "Thor" and "Arthur"...
The cross is the hammer only Thor could swing because you have to know the codes and have the star charts or antkytheria machines.
The alphabet came to us from these same folks too.

That's why the pirate skull symbol has one eye covered.

Odin gave up an eye getting runes.

These are all the same people - names changed a bit by language translation and time, but still if you check out the stellar math in all the myths it leaves no doubt about it.
(CAlanish...you dig?)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Callanish_Stones

Unless you have a better explanation as to why the symbols at the four points of the compass are the same ones as the beginning wave forms on all my synthesizers.
N.E.W.S. (triangle, square, sawtooth, and sine)
The singing sword buddy

Arthur is a traditional Welsh tale ... not the Disneyfied version that most of you know. The pre-Roman Britons did not write things down but they did, apparently, pass down historic data orally, just as the First Nations people did (and still do, somewhat) here. There is an ancient and strong Bardic tradition among the Celtic people that echoes the transmission of oral histories down the generations There is a very good chance that the Arthur saga relates to a real person ...a post-Roman military leader by the sounds of the story. The romantic novel construct that most of you think is Arthur is total nonsense, though. And no, he was not from Atlantis. Cornwall, more likely.

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

Time for the Cornish Tourist Board to toss another cheap, Chinese-made sword into the lake.

 

[Curious Cdn]

Time for the Cornish Tourist Board to toss another cheap, Chinese-made sword into the lake.

Hey! Look at all of the good it's doing sending otherwise decent posters off on journeys to the far side of Uranus.

 

[gopher]

For her heroism in pulling out the sword little Miss Matilda will soon be crowned Empress of the British Isles!

 

[Blackleaf]

Arthur was never in England. He's a proven fictional character.

How is it proven?

Arthur was Welsh, anyway and the Welsh oral tradition is about one of their kings standing up to the Saxon invaders and trying to prevent an "England" from coming into existence. It is not crazy, beyond belief than the Welsh story is based somehow on an historic (failed) military leader.

Arthur wasn't Welsh. Wales didn't exist when he was around in the 5th Century. He was involved in battles in modern day Wales, England and Scotland, even appears in French literature and, according to legend, was born at Tintagel in what is now Cornwall, England.

King Arthur: Welsh, English, Brythonic or made up?

By Neil Prior
BBC News
30 July 2017

Previous best guesses for the home of Camelot include Winchester, Monmouthshire and Somerset

Who was King Arthur and how Welsh was he?

These are two of the questions up for debate at a new exhibition at the National Library of Wales, Aberystwyth.

From ancient Brythonic warlord to mythical chivalric king with a court anywhere from Wales to Glastonbury or as far north as Scotland - it is hard to separate myth, legend and fact.

According to curator Dr Maredudd ap Huw, these unknowns lie at the heart of King Arthur's enduring appeal.

"The beauty of Arthur is that he was - indeed, according to some 'is' - whoever you want him to be," said Dr ap Huw.

"There is some early evidence to suggest that there was an Arthur in the 4th or 5th Centuries.

"Though in all likelihood he was very far removed from the romantic depictions of (writers) Thomas Malory and Alfred, Lord Tennyson."

However, just how Welsh he would have been is a "moot point", Dr ap Huw added.

Before the Saxons drove the Brythonic people (Celtic Britons) west and north, there was no recognised entity of an independent Wales, making his nationality hard to ascertain.

The exhibition brings together all the crucial texts which have informed our perception of Arthur for more than a millennium.

The Book of Aneirin forms part of the exhibition

One of the exhibits is the 13th Century Book of Aneirin, which includes a 6th Century poem describing a battle near what is now Catterick in North Yorkshire.

Dr ap Huw said one reference in it is extremely telling.

A young Brythonic hero called Gwawrddur (pronounced "Gwarthur") is described as fighting valiantly against the Saxons "although he was no Arthur".

"It is possible to infer (from this) that the legend of Arthur as a fearsome warlord was already well-established by the 6th Century," Dr ap Huw added.

But the man who drew all the threads together and introduced Arthur's wife Guinevere, his sword Excalibur and the Knights of the Round Table was Geoffrey of Monmouth.

Dr ap Huw describes the 12th Century writer as "the most influential author in the history of Wales".

"Forget Dylan Thomas, what Geoffrey wrote had a far more profound impact on world thinking and the perception of Arthur as a Welsh hero," he said.

"Writing in Latin, his ideas rapidly spread throughout Europe and, via Chretien De Troyes, fed into the French-Norman ideals of chivalric kingship.

"Geoffrey claimed as his source an ancient Welsh manuscript which was then lost, never to be found. Read into that what you will, but what is certainly true to say is that it is still essentially Geoffrey's version of King Arthur which we are taught as children, right up to the present day."

Arthur's castle Camelot and other characters such as the wizard Merlin are then referenced in the 13th Century Black Book of Carmarthen.

There he is described as "a war veteran who has lost his wits in battle in Scotland, and has developed the gift of being able to talk to animals".

But it was not until the 15th and 16th Century that "Arthur Mania" reached its heights after William Caxton published Thomas Malory's Le Morte d'Arthur.

While Geoffrey of Monmouth set Camelot in the former Roman stronghold of Caerleon, near Newport, Malory anchored it as a thoroughly English tale.

So much so that King Henry VII named his eldest son Arthur in honour of the legend.

By 1534, Polydore Vergil's Anglica Historia had debunked much of Geoffrey of Monmouth's work, and cast doubt on the very existence of a historical Arthur at all.

"Virgil's account wasn't wholly accepted. John Prise - a lawyer for Thomas Cromwell - published a rebuttal in defence of Arthur, but by then the historiographic interest in Arthur was already fatally damaged.

"That's not to say we'd forgotten about him altogether. Edmund Spencer's Faerie Queene drew heavily on Arthurian tradition and, when it was presented to Queen Elizabeth I in 1590, she was so delighted that she awarded him a pension of £50 a year for life," Dr ap Huw said.

"But by then Arthur had become a Britannia or Gloriana-type figurehead for a nation.

"The historical Arthur was dead…though there are some who say he never died, and is simply waiting to wake again when his country needs him."

King Arthur: Welsh, English, Brythonic or made up? - BBC News