How to avoid accidental nuclear war.

[White_Unifier]

Perhaps the most famous occurrence approaching accidental nuclear war was the 1983 Soviet nuclear false alarm incident:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1983_Soviet_nuclear_false_alarm_incident

Though many similar near accidental nuclear wars have occurred before and since:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_nuclear_close_calls

In most cases, it resulted from a computer glitch, a misreading of meteorological information, miscommunication, language and cultural barriers resulting in misunderstandings and suspicions, and varying combinations of these on either or both sides of the cold war resulting in paranoid preemptive escalations.

Given the number of times that we've approached accidental nuclear war, what kind of legislation would you propose to reduce its risk, especially in the era of Great-Leader rhetoric.

 

[lone wolf]

You really like rules don'cha?

 

[Curious Cdn]

Perhaps the most famous occurrence approaching accidental nuclear war was the 1983 Soviet nuclear false alarm incident:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1983_Soviet_nuclear_false_alarm_incident

Though many similar near accidental nuclear wars have occurred before and since:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_nuclear_close_calls

In most cases, it resulted from a computer glitch, a misreading of meteorological information, miscommunication, language and cultural barriers resulting in misunderstandings and suspicions, and varying combinations of these on either or both sides of the cold war resulting in paranoid preemptive escalations.

Given the number of times that we've approached accidental nuclear war, what kind of legislation would you propose to reduce its risk, especially in the era of Great-Leader rhetoric.

I would outlaw the ignition of nuclear weapons in Canada and make the offence subject to a mandatory fine of at least $50,000 dollars and you are also responsible to clean up the mess.

 

[taxslave]

Perhaps the most famous occurrence approaching accidental nuclear war was the 1983 Soviet nuclear false alarm incident:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1983_Soviet_nuclear_false_alarm_incident

Though many similar near accidental nuclear wars have occurred before and since:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_nuclear_close_calls

In most cases, it resulted from a computer glitch, a misreading of meteorological information, miscommunication, language and cultural barriers resulting in misunderstandings and suspicions, and varying combinations of these on either or both sides of the cold war resulting in paranoid preemptive escalations.

Given the number of times that we've approached accidental nuclear war, what kind of legislation would you propose to reduce its risk, especially in the era of Great-Leader rhetoric.

Destroy all nukes and the countries that have them.

 

[White_Unifier]

Since Canada has no nukes, this doesn't really apply to us. But for any country that has them, all I can think of would be:

A nuclear strike would be reserved exclusively to destroy an enemy government as a last resort and not for mere retaliatory purposes. In most past cases that I've read about, retaliation policy was the cause of the near accidental nuclear war resulting from a false alarm giving the impression that the enemy had already launched a first strike.

 

[justlooking]

legislation

:roll:

We could always try stopping NATO from being an aggressive expansionist warmongering group.

 

[Curious Cdn]

:roll:

We could always try stopping NATO from being an aggressive expansionist warmongering group.

... or we could always let the Russians re-gain their old empire and enslave Eastern Europe, once again. They could do it by merely driving west if you had your way. They're a swell bunch of guys, those Russians. Perhaps you should move there and experience that better life and what it offers.

 

[Blackleaf]

How to avoid accidental nuclear war

Make sure that the people on Britain's nuclear weapons submarines responsible for pressing these...

... if ever ordered to by the Prime Minister aren't drunk or high when on duty or are prone to excessive displays of clumsiness or spontaneous bravado.

 

[justlooking]

... or we could always let the Russians re-gain their old empire and enslave Eastern Europe, once again. They could do it by merely driving west if you had your way. They're a swell bunch of guys, those Russians. Perhaps you should move there and experience that better life and what it offers.

Yes it's much better that our Empire gets bigger and now we can provoke the traditional Russian homelands.

Cuz Russia bad, right warmongering Shillary ?

 

[Blackleaf]

When Moscow rules neighbouring countries, it's called "evil."

When Brussels and Strasbourg rule neighbouring countries, it's called the EU.

 

[White_Unifier]

Make sure that the people on Britain's nuclear weapons submarines responsible for pressing these...

... if ever ordered to by the Prime Minister aren't drunk or high when on duty or are prone to excessive displays of clumsiness or spontaneous bravado.

Looks like a joystick with which to play fun computer games.

:roll:

We could always try stopping NATO from being an aggressive expansionist warmongering group.

I'm not aware that NATO is an offensive alliance. From my understanding, it's a defensive alliance and its members would not even be obligated to help a member out should it start hostilities against another state that then defends itself against it.

That said, some of NATO's members might be a little belligerent, but they don't necessarily represent NATO itself.

Furthermore, not all NATO members are nuclear powers. In fact, most aren't.

When Moscow rules neighbouring countries, it's called "evil."

When Brussels and Strasbourg rule neighbouring countries, it's called the EU.

You mean the UK did not join the EU of its own free will and was not allowed to leave the EU? Hmmm...

 

[justlooking]

I'm not aware that NATO is an offensive alliance. From my understanding,

We can stop there.
Your understanding doesn't account for the 'defensive territorial expansion'
into the Baltics, the V4, and the Balkans, all former Russian influenced territory.
Now, NATO wants to expand itself into the heart and historical center of Russia; Ukraine.
This is aggressive policy towards a nuclear power.

You mean the UK did not join the EU of its own free will and was not allowed to leave the EU? Hmmm...

The EU of 1975 was a vastly different thing from what the EU is now, and the people were never consulted
on the changes made without their consent.
As far as leaving, they aren't out .. yet. We'll see how that goes.

 

[White_Unifier]

We can stop there.
Your understanding doesn't account for the 'defensive territorial expansion'
into the Baltics, the V4, and the Balkans, all former Russian influenced territory.
Now, NATO wants to expand itself into the heart and historical center of Russia; Ukraine.
This is aggressive policy towards a nuclear power.





The EU of 1975 was a vastly different thing from what the EU is now, and the people were never consulted
on the changes made without their consent.
As far as leaving, they aren't out .. yet. We'll see how that goes.

But it's mutual expansion. No country is forced to join NATO.

Though I agree that some NATO allies did put pressure on Ukraine to join, and Ukraine paid the consequence. But that was not official NATO policy and NATO itself was not involved in pushing Ukraine to join.

 

[Curious Cdn]

Yes it's much better that our Empire gets bigger and now we can provoke the traditional Russian homelands.

Cuz Russia bad, right warmongering Shillary ?

Yup. Russia very, very bad but don't take my word for it. Ask a Lithuanian, a Latvian, an Estonian, a Ukrainian, a Pole, a Czech, a Slovak, an Hungarian, a Bulgarian, a Romanian, a German fro east of Elbe. Make sure that they are over forty so that they can remember what the Russians are like. It is a national nightmare in all of those places but especially in Latvia, Lithuania and Estonia that the Russians might return. (Russian national homeland? Since when? 1941?)

You'd turn them over for enslavement because you think that we are all "Imperialist Pig-Dogs" but really, who is the Empire builder in this scenario (Hint: It isn't us with our short Battalion of 900 men).

Reading Sputnik is just as brainless and reading Breitbart. Both types hold onto a seriously bent notion of reality.
Either that or the Russian government is still working Western sites to push their perverted version of history through internet posting.

 

[JLM]

Perhaps the most famous occurrence approaching accidental nuclear war was the 1983 Soviet nuclear false alarm incident:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1983_Soviet_nuclear_false_alarm_incident

Though many similar near accidental nuclear wars have occurred before and since:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_nuclear_close_calls

In most cases, it resulted from a computer glitch, a misreading of meteorological information, miscommunication, language and cultural barriers resulting in misunderstandings and suspicions, and varying combinations of these on either or both sides of the cold war resulting in paranoid preemptive escalations.

Given the number of times that we've approached accidental nuclear war, what kind of legislation would you propose to reduce its risk, especially in the era of Great-Leader rhetoric.

Take all the nuclear weapons load them on a ship and head out to the middle of the Pacific Ocean and push them over the side!

 

[White_Unifier]

By the way, what made Blackleaf express concern that those responsible for launching the UK's nuclear arsenal might be drunk or high or might display excessive bravado on the job? Speaking from experience?

 

[Blackleaf]

Looks like a joystick with which to play fun computer games.



I'm not aware that NATO is an offensive alliance. From my understanding, it's a defensive alliance and its members would not even be obligated to help a member out should it start hostilities against another state that then defends itself against it.

That said, some of NATO's members might be a little belligerent, but they don't necessarily represent NATO itself.

Furthermore, not all NATO members are nuclear powers. In fact, most aren't.



You mean the UK did not join the EU of its own free will and was not allowed to leave the EU? Hmmm...

Not quite. Ted Heath took us into it on the basis of a lie and without consulting the people.

By the way, what made Blackleaf express concern that those responsible for launching the UK's nuclear arsenal might be drunk or high or might display excessive bravado on the job? Speaking from experience?

No. Being a former Royal Navy man myself, I know what British sailors are like. They haven't changed much since Nelson's day.

In Nelson's day, though, they just killed themselves by drunkenly falling off rigging. Two hundred years on and they can kill millions by drunkenly pressing the red button.

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

Not quite. Ted Heath took us into it on the basis of a lie and without consulting the people.



No. Being a former Royal Navy man myself, I know what British sailors are like. They haven't changed much since Nelson's day.

Rum, sodomy, and the lash? Sounds about right. Explains why you are the way you are. The drunken, violent homosexual rape musta had some effect.


"Churchill is said to have used the phrase in 1913, when he was First Lord of the Admiralty. According to 'an ear-witness', he was having trouble with some of his admirals at a strategy meeting. One of them accused him of having impugned the traditions of the Royal Navy, provoking the reply: 'And what are they? They are rum, sodomy and the lash'."

 

[MHz]

Is there going to be a follow-up memo about avoiding an intention one?? It would see that kind would be just as dangerous if not more so.

 

[Blackleaf]

Rum, sodomy, and the lash? Sounds about right. Explains why you are the way you are. The drunken, violent homosexual rape musta had some effect.


"Churchill is said to have used the phrase in 1913, when he was First Lord of the Admiralty. According to 'an ear-witness', he was having trouble with some of his admirals at a strategy meeting. One of them accused him of having impugned the traditions of the Royal Navy, provoking the reply: 'And what are they? They are rum, sodomy and the lash'."

The lash has gone and rum rations ended in 1970 (but there's still access to lots of alcohol). The only one of those three still going into today's Royal Navy is the sodomy.