What's Trump Done Now?

White_Unifier

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Not a problem. It's not like the Oompa Loompa in Chief will actually take an active role. That would just reveal that he knows nothing, and cares less, about trade policy. Besides, he'd miss Fox and Friends.

I'm starting to think that 'Dear Leader' might be an appropriate title.
 

Bar Sinister

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Your article is wrong. Read the Constitution, Article II, section 1, clause 1.

I'm not beating on you, most Americans don't understand this. The history of it is that the U.S. was originally a loose confederation of sovereign states, like the EU. There are no "national elections" in the U.S., only state elections. That's why no Senate or Congressional districts cross state lines. In the debacle of the 2000 Bush/Gore election, when all the wrangling was going on over recounts in Florida, the state legislature (Republican dominated) threatened to simply ignore the election and send the Republican electors to the Electoral College if the recount went to Gore. And they could have done so.

I suspect you are confusing the process of the Electoral College with its intention. Clearly the idea was to give the states some control over the selection of the President, but the words of the founding fathers clearly indicate that they were concerned that the poorly educated masses might elect a demagogue. The Electoral College was intended to solve this potential problem. Unfortunately, it no longer works that way, if it did Donald Trump would not be president.

And when I linked the source to my post I had a choice of several articles on the EC, all of which pretty much said the same thing. That means that if I am wrong then many other experts are are also wrong, including my political science professor and the textbook I used while studying the US system.
 

Tecumsehsbones

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I suspect you are confusing the process of the Electoral College with its intention. Clearly the idea was to give the states some control over the selection of the President, but the words of the founding fathers clearly indicate that they were concerned that the poorly educated masses might elect a demagogue. The Electoral College was intended to solve this potential problem. Unfortunately, it no longer works that way, if it did Donald Trump would not be president.

And when I linked the source to my post I had a choice of several articles on the EC, all of which pretty much said the same thing. That means that if I am wrong then many other experts are are also wrong, including my political science professor and the textbook I used while studying the US system.

I studied this at some length. I promise I'm giving you the straight story. And if the Electrical College (what most little kids call it) is suppose to protect us from f*cking disasters as Presidents, it has utterly failed at least twice, and in my opinion, more often.
 

White_Unifier

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So far, Trump has done nothing to correct this. Where's the criticism from the far right who used to post this on just about every web forum during the Obama era?

This is one of the things that irritates me the most about Trump. The reason the US trade deficit is as it is is borrow and spend. With low taxes and high government spending, both private and public spending and consumption are high. Result? Because you consume so much, you have less to export and must import more to feed the demand.

The absolute easiest way for Trump to reduce the trade deficit is to raise taxes, reduce spending, and pay your bloody debts.

In fact, I wouldove to see Freeland tell the US trade negotiator this to his face. Trudeau should have told Trump to his face too.

Though honestly, at least in the last few years, with Canada going borrow and spend, the US trade deficit is probably not so bad right now.
 

justlooking

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So far, Trump has done nothing to correct this. Where's the criticism from the far right who used to post this on just about every web forum during the Obama era?

You know full well he hasn't had time to work on a budget yet, it's been 200 days.
And getting one thru Congress will not be easy.



The absolute easiest way for Trump to reduce the trade deficit is to raise taxes, reduce spending, and pay your bloody debts.
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No, the US has a big deficit in jobs, that has to be solved first.
UK unemployment is now down to 4.4%, they are getting close to the theoretical full employment.
So I would expect taxes and such to go up a bit in their next budget.
 

Tecumsehsbones

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You know full well he hasn't had time to work on a budget yet, it's been 200 days.
And getting one thru Congress will not be easy.





No, the US has a big deficit in jobs, that has to be solved first.
UK unemployment is now down to 4.4%, they are getting close to the theoretical full employment.
So I would expect taxes and such to go up a bit in their next budget.

Ours is 4.3%.
 

justlooking

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Ours is 4.3%.

Yes, but there is a still a big hole that was created by the longer term unemployed not being counted anymore.
You get months where lots of jobs are being created, but the unemployment rate actually goes up, as more
of these structurally unemployed go back into the system and start being counted again.
So your 4.3% isn't actually correct. Your labour force participation rate used to be around 67%,
in 2008 it took a dump down to 58%. It's now around 62/63%. When it gets back to 65/66%, then your unemployment
numbers will look more ... 'realistic'.

Also the quality of the jobs created is 'questionable', but that is another discussion.
 

Tecumsehsbones

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Yes, but there is a still a big hole that was created by the longer term unemployed not being counted anymore.
You get months where lots of jobs are being created, but the unemployment rate actually goes up, as more
of these structurally unemployed go back into the system and start being counted again.
So your 4.3% isn't actually correct. Your labour force participation rate used to be around 67%,
in 2008 it took a dump down to 58%. It's now around 62/63%. When it gets back to 65/66%, then your unemployment
numbers will look more ... 'realistic'.

Also the quality of the jobs created is 'questionable', but that is another discussion.
Funny how you didn't engage in that analysis of the UK's labor force.

Just like you won't answer up about your service.
 

White_Unifier

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Yes, but there is a still a big hole that was created by the longer term unemployed not being counted anymore.
You get months where lots of jobs are being created, but the unemployment rate actually goes up, as more
of these structurally unemployed go back into the system and start being counted again.
So your 4.3% isn't actually correct. Your labour force participation rate used to be around 67%,
in 2008 it took a dump down to 58%. It's now around 62/63%. When it gets back to 65/66%, then your unemployment
numbers will look more ... 'realistic'.

Also the quality of the jobs created is 'questionable', but that is another discussion.


As for the quality of jobs, we don't solve that by raising the minimum wage. We solve that at least in part by better funding trades and professional education for the unemployed and in part by reducing barriers to accessing employment at home and abroad
 

pgs

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She did not lose because she lacks intelligence.( far from it) When it comes to intelligence Trump does not hold a candle to her. She lost because of what was dumped via Wikileaks and then Comey's bumbling stupidity..... Not to mention The Russian factor. She was better prepared , qualified for the job by a long shot. Trump's "win" will always be under question..........and it has nothing to do with machines etc. The group that voted for him were swayed by Wikileaks revelations and Comeys investigative non findings.


It is astonishing to consider that any group would support someone who is as negative , degrading , nasty, belligerent, tactless, uninformed,boorish, biased, self centered, and bellicose as trump is.

Perhaps this is where * what& America is now. He just might represent the REAL America..........and all its warts........visible and hidden now.


what is astounding is just how many of the extremist groups exist and are surfacing now. Seems they have been gurgling under the surface all along and a shyster like Trump "spoke" to them and they emerged from their dark zone.
Actually she lost because people do not like her , even those in her own party .

She did not lose because she lacks intelligence.( far from it) When it comes to intelligence Trump does not hold a candle to her. She lost because of what was dumped via Wikileaks and then Comey's bumbling stupidity..... Not to mention The Russian factor. She was better prepared , qualified for the job by a long shot. Trump's "win" will always be under question..........and it has nothing to do with machines etc. The group that voted for him were swayed by Wikileaks revelations and Comeys investigative non findings.


It is astonishing to consider that any group would support someone who is as negative , degrading , nasty, belligerent, tactless, uninformed,boorish, biased, self centered, and bellicose as trump is.

Perhaps this is where * what& America is now. He just might represent the REAL America..........and all its warts........visible and hidden now.


what is astounding is just how many of the extremist groups exist and are surfacing now. Seems they have been gurgling under the surface all along and a shyster like Trump "spoke" to them and they emerged from their dark zone.
BLM and Antifa .
 

MHz

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As for the quality of jobs, we don't solve that by raising the minimum wage. We solve that at least in part by better funding trades and professional education for the unemployed and in part by reducing barriers to accessing employment at home and abroad
Or build our new plants so they are robotic and upgrades are a few mouse clicks. People slow down quantity and quality suffers if somebody is having 'a bad day'. 90% unemployment id called a holiday where every day has the Circus in town. (plus the run for 100 years and only need a few drops of premium oil. It's one thing to be from the stone age, it quite another beast when we are trying to stay in the stone age as long as possible.

The trick would be to jump on that wagon sooner rather than being a hold-out. Forgot, we wouldn't be allowed to do that as it would be 'breaking rank'. Lemmings we are.
 

tay

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"Keep in mind Trump managed to both threaten nuclear war and embrace neo-Nazis while on vacation. Wait until he gets back to work!

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