Trump’s Remarks on Charlottesville Violence Are Criticized as Insufficient

Corduroy

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But. . . but. . . they're all COMMIES!

Just look at EagleSmack's pitchers!

I don't see them. Are they pictures of salt?

Good point. What makes Nazism revolting is not that they lost WWII, but that they believe in revolting things.

You can change that to "what makes Nazism revolting is not that they fought WWII, but that they believe in revolting things."

For some reason, people seem to think that fighting Nazis is as bad as being a Nazi.
 

10larry

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Go to the ex Warsaw Pact countries, ask the old people about what they learned for history.
You'd be shocked.
Trying to destroy history is normal operating procedures for Communists.
And this is what we are witnessing.

Oddly enough my wife is polish and we had a condo in krakow n' visited warsaw many times. There are/were statues honouring russian soldiers even though their army had invaded prior to hitlers attack on russia. When russia beat back nazis and russian soldiers routed nazis from warsaw and poland poles were jubilant and grateful enough to honour soldier effort ever mindfull of the abject misery caused by loopy power lusting politicians. That was of course before the nato warsaw pact power struggle for eastern europe that russia came out second best on. No luv lost twixt poles and russians but for a brief time russians were honoured saviors in poland, history is full of paradoxical twists and turns that should be respected not placed upon the trash heap, historical icons good and bad shaped us.

Russian Senate Wants to Punish Poland for Removing Statues Honoring World War II Soldiers
 

EagleSmack

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Hey now, Antifa isn't new either. Antifa was founded during the rise of Nazism in 1930s Germany. They lost that fight and they are plenty proud to have been first on the scene, helpless and hopeless, in the fight against Nazism, while the rest of the world was quite fond of that Hitler fellow. Those violent Antifascists were fighting the fight the rest of the world was forced into later.

And they were Far Left Wing Violent Group.

Now wouldn't it be great if this reemerged antifa movement would only fight Nazis and facists instead of everyone who has a different opinion or voted for someone they don't like? But Alt-Left Hate Groups are gonna hate just like Nazis and White Supremacists.

But. . . but. . . they're all COMMIES!

Just look at EagleSmack's pitchers!

Not all Commies... but many are. I don't put everyone in one basket like the libs often do.

On one thread you called them all pansies acting out! You JUST posted that. Losing track of your views? Getting confused a little? Cords avatar still making you dreamy?

I know they're all full of hate... just like nazis and the KKK.

Oddly enough my wife is polish and we had a condo in krakow n' visited warsaw many times. There are/were statues honouring russian soldiers even though their army had invaded prior to hitlers attack on russia. When russia beat back nazis and russian soldiers routed nazis from warsaw and poland poles were jubilant and grateful enough to honour soldier effort ever mindfull of the abject misery caused by loopy power lusting politicians. That was of course before the nato warsaw pact power struggle for eastern europe that russia came out second best on. No luv lost twixt poles and russians but for a brief time russians were honoured saviors in poland, history is full of paradoxical twists and turns that should be respected not placed upon the trash heap, historical icons good and bad shaped us.

Russian Senate Wants to Punish Poland for Removing Statues Honoring World War II Soldiers

In 1939 both the Germans AND the Soviet Union invaded Poland. The Germans rounded up all of the Jewish people and sent them to concentration camps to be killed.

And what did the Soviets do? They rounded up all the Polish Cops, Doctors, Politicians, Military Officers, Priests, Landowners and anyone they deemed a threat and murdered them in the Katyn Forests. They wiped out about 20,000 Poles.

I think the story line that the Polish honored the Soviets as their saviors was an extension of Soviet propaganda.
 

justlooking

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Trump's election gave white supremacists a win. In November last year Richard Spencer held a sad and poorly attended white nationalist rally and declared "Hail Trump! Hail our people! Hail victory!" Since then the ranks of white nationalists bold enough to declare themselves have grown.

There were less than 500 at the rallies.
And they had to pull them from as far away as... well, Ohio at least.
Hardly something to get all that worked up over.
 

White_Unifier

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Unfortunately, both extremes (fascism and communism) are harmful. I can't say I'd rather live under a communist regime than a fascist one. It would be more accurate to say I'd less rather live in a fascist one than a communist one if I had to choose.

But unfortunately, they extremes feed off of one another. With that, the rise of both together should not surprise us. We need to present a healthier alternative.
 

10larry

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And they were Far Left Wing Violent Group.


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In 1939 both the Germans AND the Soviet Union invaded Poland. The Germans rounded up all of the Jewish people and sent them to concentration camps to be killed.

And what did the Soviets do? They rounded up all the Polish Cops, Doctors, Politicians, Military Officers, Priests, Landowners and anyone they deemed a threat and murdered them in the Katyn Forests. They wiped out about 20,000 Poles.

I think the story line that the Polish honored the Soviets as their saviors was an extension of Soviet propaganda.

It is difficult for pampered westerners to grasp the euphoria felt when the nazi thumb was severed, any would be grateful to the devil himself for this rescue from earthbound hell.
 

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It is difficult for pampered westerners to grasp the euphoria felt when the nazi thumb was severed, any would be grateful to the devil himself for this rescue from earthbound hell.

The thing is that in September of 1939, when WWII started in Europe... the Soviets invaded Poland along with the Germans. They were not liberators... they came as conquerors just like the Nazis. Poland was divided between them. As I said... the Soviets rounded up 20 Thousand Poles and executed them and buried them in mass graves. They were never regarded as heroes. The Nazis were vicious... the Soviets were just as vicious.
 

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There was an armed militia escorting Nazis and Klansmen through American streets and y'all are still focused on Tiki torches? Get It Together. This is the picture that needs to go viral. America 2017, y'all.

[Taken in Charlottesville, a mile from Emancipation Park, by @HouseofRuin]
 

EagleSmack

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Wow. It would appear that the US is becoming ever more far right and far left at the same time. Your country's got some problems.

No argument there.

The hate groups on the Alt-Left and Alt-Right keep growing in numbers and are fed by the media. Blood sells.
 

White_Unifier

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No argument there.

The hate groups on the Alt-Left and Alt-Right keep growing in numbers and are fed by the media. Blood sells.

And they feed on one another too.

the moderate left and the moderate right had better start to show a united front, and soon.
 

Corduroy

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Unfortunately, both extremes (fascism and communism) are harmful. I can't say I'd rather live under a communist regime than a fascist one. It would be more accurate to say I'd less rather live in a fascist one than a communist one if I had to choose.

Well that's an odd hypothetical.... fascist countries seem less stable so they wouldn't last as long. You might hold out hope that a totalitarian fascist government will fall, but a totalitarian communist government would be a greater proportion of your life under oppression and misery.
 

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Bravo to President Trump for turning the tables on the Press at his impromptu News Conference yesterday.

One of the questions he asked a reporter was to define the Alt Right, no one could do it. There is an artifice being built by the media and political establishment of labelling the revolt against 'Free Trade', political correctness, moral deformation that is racking America and the West as solely 'Racist' in character.

The message has become increasing desperate and hysterical, led by CNN, NYT, Washington Post and Business Establishment. It resorts to maudlin sentiment, sophistry, skewed ideology but NEVER facts. Hence Trump is labelled racist for bringing out an obvious fact.. that the events in Charlottesville was a gang rumble between two well armed radical and marginal viewpoints, both bent on violence. Nothing more and nothing of permanent value was on display there.

It has nothing to do with race. It has everything to do with economic decline and cultural fragmentation. The NeoCon/NeoLib establishments (2 sides of the same coin) are frantic that they have not been able to foment a general repudiation of Trump. Trump retains the respect and loyalty of at least half of the American electorate (those who aren't asked to participate in polls) and who are not those that can be 'fooled all of the time' by media propaganda.

The reason for that is Trump is authentic and genuine and speaks from the heart. He sees the deep sense of betrayal, hopelessness, chaos that has gripped the political landscape. He does not resort to the demagoguery and slander in which CNN frames its news.

In fact what the establishment opinion setters have developed in pure subterfuge. It is built on lies and prejudice. It shamelessly and cynically exacerbates racial, cultural, ethnic and class divisions to impose a puritanical political regime. It's worse and more duplicitous than its model of McArthyism.

The good news is that these contrivances always implode by way of their own internal contradictions. That's why Trump will emerge from this stronger than before. And his opponents will be inextricably compromised and exposed by their lies.. for all but the truly deluded that is.
 
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White_Unifier

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Well that's an odd hypothetical.... fascist countries seem less stable so they wouldn't last as long. You might hold out hope that a totalitarian fascist government will fall, but a totalitarian communist government would be a greater proportion of your life under oppression and misery.

Good point there. A fascist regime is far more militaristic and so burns out economically sooner or later.

A communist one can just chug along lethargically for decades.
 

White_Unifier

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You mean, like......... Canada ?

:lol::lol:


I'm freaking joking, you retards !

Canada does reveal weak traits of communism and yes, those traits hold it back from achieving its potential. for example, if we got rid of supply management and cultural exemptions for starters. Same with Canada's mostly one-tiered medical system.