That Pesky North Korea Issue

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The broad plans (like bringing jobs back to America) are clever enough, so I think I know enough about his policies to recognize that. How would you expect me to know the details of execution. We're not exactly pen pals. :) :)

I'm not asking for much detail. You only need to write a few sentences.

For example, the border wall:

How is he going to build the border wall?
Make Mexico pay for it.
How?
A number of ideas have been floated. One is to tax remittances from Mexican citizens in the US to Mexico. Another is to build solar panels on the wall and then sell the energy to Mexico.

Both of these ideas are bad ideas, but if you take them at face value, you could say they're clever. If you had said something like that, I would admit that you do know something about Trump's policies and you could explain it to some extent.

But you couldn't even do that, JLM. All you managed was "bring back jobs!", then you explained how by making up your own idea and proving you don't know shit about Trump's policies. That's my entire point. You. Don't. Know. Shit.
 

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The broad plans (like bringing jobs back to America) are clever enough, so I think I know enough about his policies to recognize that. How would you expect me to know the details of execution. We're not exactly pen pals. :) :)

I don't think Trump has a plan of execution. For example, how do you expect him to make Mexico pay for the wall? Send the US Marine Corps to invade the Mexican National Palace?
 

JLM

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I'm not asking for much detail. You only need to write a few sentences.

For example, the border wall:

How is he going to build the border wall?
Make Mexico pay for it.
How?
A number of ideas have been floated. One is to tax remittances from Mexican citizens in the US to Mexico. Another is to build solar panels on the wall and then sell the energy to Mexico.

Both of these ideas are bad ideas, but if you take them at face value, you could say they're clever. If you had said something like that, I would admit that you do know something about Trump's policies and you could explain it to some extent.

But you couldn't even do that, JLM. All you managed was "bring back jobs!", then you explained how by making up your own idea and proving you don't know shit about Trump's policies. That's my entire point. You. Don't. Know. Shit.


Most people (me included) can state an opinion w/o being insulting, it seems you can't do that so why bother? You seem to forget that other people's opinions are just as valid as yours. Maybe if Trump's wall had have been in place, all those deaths in Houston wouldn't have happened. I stated many months ago that Trump's wall might not be a physical wall in its entirety.

I don't think Trump has a plan of execution. For example, how do you expect him to make Mexico pay for the wall? Send the US Marine Corps to invade the Mexican National Palace?


I think a guy in Trump's position is more than likely to think up the basic plans and then down load them to his underlings to work out the fine details. I don't think Trump gets too carried away with counting bolts, nuts and washers.
 

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Looking like North Korea probem will finally be resolved before next election.
 

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Most people (me included) can state an opinion w/o being insulting, it seems you can't do that so why bother? You seem to forget that other people's opinions are just as valid as yours. Maybe if Trump's wall had have been in place, all those deaths in Houston wouldn't have happened. I stated many months ago that Trump's wall might not be a physical wall in its entirety.




I think a guy in Trump's position is more than likely to think up the basic plans and then down load them to his underlings to work out the fine details. I don't think Trump gets too carried away with counting bolts, nuts and washers.

You're very correct on that. Delegation is good, but he should still have considered at least the basic feasibility of it. Even a simple analysis shows that there would be few ways for Trump to force Mexico to pay for the US wall short of some kind of war.
 

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You're very correct on that. Delegation is good, but he should still have considered at least the basic feasibility of it. Even a simple analysis shows that there would be few ways for Trump to force Mexico to pay for the US wall short of some kind of war.

Trump talks in a language based on stirring positive emotion. Not facts
Getting Mexico to pay for the wall is just emotionally satisfying.
It conveys a great victory.

He understands that humans are more emotional then intellectual.

Its why everyone has a huge emotional reaction when talking about Trump. He intentionally provokes emotional response in people.

Its his biggest strength as well as his biggest weakness.
 

White_Unifier

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Trump talks in a language based on stirring positive emotion. Not facts
Getting Mexico to pay for the wall is just emotionally satisfying.
It conveys a great victory.

He understands that humans are more emotional then intellectual.

Its why everyone has a huge emotional reaction when talking about Trump. He intentionally provokes emotional response in people.

Its his biggest strength as well as his biggest weakness.

Whether it's intentional or not, I don't know. But either way, it's dangerous. It risks causing misunderstandings.
 

Angstrom

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Whether it's intentional or not, I don't know. But either way, it's dangerous. It risks causing misunderstandings.

My opinion is its intentional. Good Salespeople study emotions in humans to help know how to manipulate emotions to sell you a product

Business spend millions in study to learn how to manipulate human emotions to drive sells. Trump is a business man. Add the two together.

Its called marketing

Look at everything Trump does. His movements his facial expressions his mannerism. He's branding himself. Its all intentionally done.

"Of which the world has never seen".<~~~~~~~ This is a emotion. He is trying to stire a emotional response.

Emotion Trumps all even facts
People are emotional not intellectual.

Even more as they grow soft.
 

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From Issue#370 of "Captain America" (1990), the Nazi agent Red Skull writes a speech for a future idiot-president.
 

JLM

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You're very correct on that. Delegation is good, but he should still have considered at least the basic feasibility of it. Even a simple analysis shows that there would be few ways for Trump to force Mexico to pay for the US wall short of some kind of war.


An "admission fee" to the U.S. when entering the country might do the trick.......................eventually.
 

White_Unifier

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An "admission fee" to the U.S. when entering the country might do the trick.......................eventually.

But how does he force them to visit the US? If it's no longer profitable for them, they'll go elsewhere.

And if US farmers need them, then they will pay and forward the cost to consumers. So who pays?
 

JLM

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Wrong, obviously you don't check sources, you just believe anything that's printed and happens to align with your own version of stupidity.


Donald Trump Stealing His 'Fire and Fury' Line From Captain America Villain Red Skull Is False


Why do you have to incessantly insult the person whose opinion you don't agree with??? There's two other reasonable avenues....................one. ignore it or two reply in an equally humourous manner! None of this shit being discussed is worth making enemies over.

But how does he force them to visit the US? If it's no longer profitable for them, they'll go elsewhere.

And if US farmers need them, then they will pay and forward the cost to consumers. So who pays?


If the wall gets built and has the desired effect, who really cares about the other details. When the cost to consumers gets too onerous, then consumers won't consume and everyone will stay home. Actually I think Trump did everything right with the exception of telling Mexicans they would pay for it. On second thought, maybe he should have started building a wall on American soil and said nothing.
 

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From Issue#370 of "Captain America" (1990), the Nazi agent Red Skull writes a speech for a future idiot-president.
CRAP!!! the T can't even be original. So this is how and where he gets his 'influences".

Nice catch Cliffy........Bravo.

The media has been dissecting hose words......someone should tell them..
 

Angstrom

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CRAP!!! the T can't even be original. So this is how and where he gets his 'influences".

Nice catch Cliffy........Bravo.

The media has been dissecting hose words......someone should tell them..

Gerryh just debunked it . But i doubt you will even believe that. You are much to happy emotionally to let that rune you're wonderful moment.

Facts don't matter if it fits you're emotional narrative.

Enjoy your moment of blissful ignorance.
 

Cliffy

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