Half of Canadians Want Refugees Deported

spilledthebeer

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Where do you get your information? Non of this is true. His "Father" wasn't there and didn't die there. Most of your post is unadulterated bullshyte. You make this crap up as you go? Died: October 2, 2003, Wanna, Pakistan. That's a year after Omar was captured.


https://www.thestar.com/news/world/...-the-case-and-the-incident-underlying-it.html

Oh now the the LIE-beral loving Red Star wants to clear the record? My version is what was printed at the time Omar was sent to Gitmo....and frankly I don't give a shit when papa Khadr died- I can say good riddance any old time!

That the Red Star NOW wants to "set the record straight" in order to try to clean some of the mud off Our idiot Boy Justin is ludicrous-was the original report "FAKE News" or is it fake news NOW? LIE-berals are mired in their own Khadr Krap filled cess pool! And the idea that fake news or a rewrite of history will clean the egg off the face of Our idiot Boy and his LIE-beral pals is typical LIE-beral delusion! And LIE-berals WONDER WHY we call them LIE-berals? HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Our idiot Boy says he has no choice but to pay Khadr because his Charter Rights were violated! Should we curse father Pierre Trudope for writing such a Krappy Khadr pleasing document or should we curse Our idiot Boy Justin for being so utterly dense that he would literally shoot himself in both feet and then charge himself with careless use of a firearm?

This Khadr Krap is career killing stupidity and LIE-berals have just awakened to this fact and are now scrambling for a way out. And of course THERE IS a way out THAT DOES NOT INVOLVE MORE FAKE NEWS.....just have Our idiot Boy whisper in the ears of Supreme Court LIE-beral loving judges and explain to the dorks that they had better find a legal way to REVERSE their decision post haste- or their careers will be over sooner than they thought!

And my suggestion is the perfect one for LIE-berals- they get to LIE and blame it all on somebody else!

Politics and legal matters are so simple when you stop trying to get 2 + 2 = 5!
 

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Life on the Quebec border in Trump's America

Still have your head in the sand I see.

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Flossy? You mad bro? LMAO!

 

spilledthebeer

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Still have your head in the sand I see.

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Flossy? You mad bro? LMAO!


Yeah- that bluebyrd is short a few feathers from the nest! The funny thing is how LOUD she will scream if Muslims hit her with a truck or sexually assault her- it will be ALL the fault of the cops she did not allow to so their jobs!


M-103 could morph into something unrecognizable

By Lorne Gunter , Edmonton Sun. First posted: Tuesday, February 21, 2017 05:27 PM EST | Updated: Tuesday, February 21, 2017 05:38 PM EST

Ever since I (and, of course, many others) began warning about the threat to free speech posed by Mississauga Liberal MP Iqra Khalid’s M-103, I have received counterarguments from a hundred or more supporters of the motion that calls on the federal government to root out Islamophobia wherever it is found.

On Tuesday, for instance, I was a guest on the CBC Radio morning show, The Current, hosted by Anna Maria Tremonti.

Taking Khalid’s side was Faisal Kutty, a Canadian-trained law professor from Valparaiso University in Indiana.

Several points were made with which I disagreed, but one in particular was illustrative of the one-sided thinking of the pro-M-103 side.

After arguing it was wrong to tar all Muslims – extremists and moderates – with the same brush, Prof. Kutty then added I was way off base for linking the treatment of suburban Montrealer Antonio Padula with the effects M-103 may have.

Padula is just some guy from the Montreal-area community of Kirkland. One evening shortly after the horrific murders at a Quebec City mosque, Padula saw three police cars pull up outside his home. He was arrested, taken away in cuffs and put in jail for the night, all because police misinterpreted some tweets he posted as promoting hatred toward Muslims.

Kutty said Padula’s treatment had nothing to do with the intent of M-103, that he was being charged under hate crimes and other laws, not under a Parliamentary motion offering support for Muslims.

But that’s how these things start. Too often they begin with well-meaning intentions. Yet once they get into the hands of politically correct bureaucrats, Parliamentary committees and human rights commissioners, they morph into something unrecognizable.

Tremont asked me whether, perhaps, Padula’s treatment was justified given that his indelicate tweets came just days after the bloody shooting. But isn’t that just promoting a climate of fear – fear that everyone who posts politically incorrect tweets is a potential murderer who deserves to be arrested and throw in a cell, and possibly face months of expensive legal defence to clear his name?

The supporters of M-103 insist there is an increasing public climate of hatred and fear against Muslims. But wasn’t the treatment of Padula just as much an overreaction based on fear?

If Muslims shouldn’t be condemned for the actions of a few extremists in their faith, shouldn’t it also hold that Antonio Padula shouldn’t be arrested just because officials are suddenly acting out of fear that everyone who tweets unkind ideas is a potential killer?

Prof. Kutty also said it was wrong to focus on the word Islamophobia because he had a good definition of it. And, I’ll admit, his wasn’t bad. But that’s the problem – everybody has his or her own definition. Give that much leeway to the human rights police and the broadest possible definition will be upheld. There will be more, not fewer, Antonio Padula’s rousted from their beds in the middle of the night for the “crime” of being politically incorrect, or even just ironic.

Another objection to my criticism of M-103 that I have received from several emailers is that whether the motion calls it Islamophobia or “anti-Muslim bigotry,” the word doesn’t matter. That is just semantics.

Well, if words don’t matter, why then are we making such a big deal about the words Muslims find offensive? The truth is, words matter – both ways. So if Islamophobia is ill-defined, we should worry this motion could eventually lead to a real limiting of free speech.

That’s not just semantics.

Our fundamental right to free expression – for Muslims and non-Muslims, alike – is too precious to risk on some ill-defined, feel-good, politically correct motion in the Commons.
 

bluebyrd35

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Still have your head in the sand I see.

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Flossy? You mad bro? LMAO!

LOL since I LIVE about 20 miles from Hemmingford, PQ ......I do know about these few people who do not like their lives upset by the traffic. This country and area has always welcomed immigrants/refugees. Most of us realize that without immigrants, we would soon be worse off.... Our retirement, health care and many other government programs would soon be out of funds to supply our aging population. We need more taxpayers to uphold our standard of living.

http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2017/0...-refugees-asylum-border-photo_n_14842790.html N

Not exactly a source I favor for sure but there are a few more which I will post.

https://article.wn.com/view-lemonde...aimants_strain_Canadian_border/#/related_news
Notice that our government is a more than a bit more humanitarian than yours!!
 
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spilledthebeer

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LOL since I LIVE about 20 miles from Hemmingford, PQ ......I do know about these few people who do not like their lives upset by the traffic. This country and area has always welcomed immigrants/refugees. Most of us realize that without immigrants, we would soon be worse off.... Our retirement, health care and many other government programs would soon be out of funds to supply our aging population. We need more taxpayers to uphold our standard of living.

Asylum-Seekers Fleeing U.S. Border Agents Receive Helping Hand From Quebec RCMP N

Not exactly a source I favor for sure but there are a few more which I will post.

https://article.wn.com/view-lemonde...aimants_strain_Canadian_border/#/related_news
Notice that our government is a more than a bit more humanitarian than yours!!

Actually Canada has NOT always had an open door policy for immigrants and refugees. The colony of new France was set up 2 years before the Pilgrims arrived at Plymouth Rock- and by the time of the American Revolution the population of New France was 60,000 and population of United States was 2.5 million-including slaves......the discrepancy due largely to Cdn govt wanting to limit the ethnic friction and wild gun play occurring in United States. Cdn writer Pierre Berton said it best when he pointed out: in the U.S. the people came first and the law came later but in Canada, the law went first and the people were allowed in afterwards. Cdn govt wanted NOTHING to do with the sort of stuff shown in the movie Gangs of New York!

Any student of Cdn history will know that the only reason Canada allowed in Eastern Europeans is because British farmers had no idea how to survive on the prairies. Govt guessed correctly that the Slavic `aliens` they decided to allow in would never have much loyalty to Britain but their bond with Canada and their land would be like iron- isnt it nice the govt was right!

Slavic peoples are like us-the same sort of Christian values and the same faith in our democratic and economic system. They integrated quite smoothly once they were given a fair chance. They had the usual sentimental nostalgia for the old country but they did not try to forge alliances with the likes of HezzBollah and Taliban!

All we can be sure of with modern Muslim immigrants is that they may not make us change our ways by force.....the majority of Muslims seem willing to build up their numbers until they have the votes necessary to RE-WRITE about half our constitution!

Those people who came here in the 19th century enacted a blending of like minded people. The Muslim is a colonization effort that looks a lot like a from of CANCER and it will kill us if it gets too strong!

Self preservation is not racism! And if we are all- as LIE-berals insist- such a racist lot then why are so many non whites struggling to join us here? LIE-berals NEVER discuss such points as this!
 

bluebyrd35

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Actually Canada has NOT always had an open door policy for immigrants and refugees. The colony of new France was set up 2 years before the Pilgrims arrived at Plymouth Rock- and by the time of the American Revolution the population of New France was 60,000 and population of United States was 2.5 million-including slaves......the discrepancy due largely to Cdn govt wanting to limit the ethnic friction and wild gun play occurring in United States. Cdn writer Pierre Berton said it best when he pointed out: in the U.S. the people came first and the law came later but in Canada, the law went first and the people were allowed in afterwards. Cdn govt wanted NOTHING to do with the sort of stuff shown in the movie Gangs of New York!

Any student of Cdn history will know that the only reason Canada allowed in Eastern Europeans is because British farmers had no idea how to survive on the prairies. Govt guessed correctly that the Slavic `aliens` they decided to allow in would never have much loyalty to Britain but their bond with Canada and their land would be like iron- isnt it nice the govt was right!

Slavic peoples are like us-the same sort of Christian values and the same faith in our democratic and economic system. They integrated quite smoothly once they were given a fair chance. They had the usual sentimental nostalgia for the old country but they did not try to forge alliances with the likes of HezzBollah and Taliban!

All we can be sure of with modern Muslim immigrants is that they may not make us change our ways by force.....the majority of Muslims seem willing to build up their numbers until they have the votes necessary to RE-WRITE about half our constitution!

Those people who came here in the 19th century enacted a blending of like minded people. The Muslim is a colonization effort that looks a lot like a from of CANCER and it will kill us if it gets too strong!

Self preservation is not racism! And if we are all- as LIE-berals insist- such a racist lot then why are so many non whites struggling to join us here? LIE-berals NEVER discuss such points as this!
When you say self-resevation comes first ........how does that line up with, life without the benefits we now enjoy without enough working tax-payers to support them?
We need immigrants to simply maintain our population these days. It has nothing to do with Racism

Racism is when you eliminate whole groups of persons because of a few who are fanatics. Do you not have enough confidence in our country's immigration system to trust our officials to choose who will make a good Canadian citizen?? Have they really done such a terrible job? After all those who came over our borders were taken into custody by the RCMP directly and will go through the system as others have done. Remember also ......many of those were persons who were already investigated and were accepted by the US. Fear drove them.....just like it probably drove them out of their home country.

Racism is when one country exploits the cheap labour of a neighbor but wants to make that neighbor build a wall so those doing the cheap labour will not contaminate the home country!!

Racism is when all members of a religion are judged by the actions of a sect of terrorists. After all the Muslim koran is quite close to the Christian Bible . In both books, women, lepers are seen as less than human, and unbelievers should be killed!! The difference is, in Canada, government laws concerning "killing" unbelievers and how women must be treated come before religious law!! Our laws treat only the offenders as criminals.

We still have religious groups in this country who treat women as sex slaves .....Just recently a Mormon leader was jailed for having 70 (no less) wives. Some as young as 11 and 12. They have circumvented the laws for many years. We have crooks, killers, wife beaters,child molesters in our old stock Canadians. Racists discriminate against all Christians, Jews, or Muslims or against all Syrians, Israelites or Germans because of a specific Sect, terrorist, killer, child molester. That is the difference!! That is racism. So. tell me again now why we should consider judging all Muslims as risky because of a sect of terrorists??

Must we ban all Christians because many killers child molesters, thieves were/are practitioners? Why non-whites are struggling to" join us" is beyond me as our treatment of our natives (who are mostly non-white) is and has been really horrible!! Not sure if it is two suicides a day or a week amongst their teens right now.

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Ah so fake news is when it interferes with your belief and has very little to do with truth.
 

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When you say self-resevation comes first ........how does that line up with, life without the benefits we now enjoy without enough working tax-payers to support them?
We need immigrants to simply maintain our population these days. It has nothing to do with Racism


That's all well and good AFTER our own population is fully employed and living a decent life style and can afford the necessities of a decent life. I've got really no idea of what the exact number is but I think I can safely say there is a hundred thousand of our own indigenous people living a life of squalor and hopelessness. Let's get them up to snuff and THEN bring in a few refugees!
 

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So...you assume that this indigenous problem can be solved in the next few years?? I assume you really feel the present government can solve a problem that every government has grappled with since confederation. In a way it has.....By admitting through immigration the families and individuals who are able to pass Canada's immigration procedure.

How many taxpayers will it take to support the retirees, PLUS the more than hundred thousand indigenous needy?? And the latter are needy in so many areas, that simply throwing money at the problem won't work. Special medical, educational, housing programs are desperately needed...NOW.

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/topic/The-boomer-shift
 

spilledthebeer

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When you say self-resevation comes first ........how does that line up with, life without the benefits we now enjoy without enough working tax-payers to support them?
We need immigrants to simply maintain our population these days. It has nothing to do with Racism

Racism is when you eliminate whole groups of persons because of a few who are fanatics. Do you not have enough confidence in our country's immigration system to trust our officials to choose who will make a good Canadian citizen?? Have they really done such a terrible job? After all those who came over our borders were taken into custody by the RCMP directly and will go through the system as others have done. Remember also ......many of those were persons who were already investigated and were accepted by the US. Fear drove them.....just like it probably drove them out of their home country.

Racism is when one country exploits the cheap labour of a neighbor but wants to make that neighbor build a wall so those doing the cheap labour will not contaminate the home country!!

Racism is when all members of a religion are judged by the actions of a sect of terrorists. After all the Muslim koran is quite close to the Christian Bible . In both books, women, lepers are seen as less than human, and unbelievers should be killed!! The difference is, in Canada, government laws concerning "killing" unbelievers and how women must be treated come before religious law!! Our laws treat only the offenders as criminals.

We still have religious groups in this country who treat women as sex slaves .....Just recently a Mormon leader was jailed for having 70 (no less) wives. Some as young as 11 and 12. They have circumvented the laws for many years. We have crooks, killers, wife beaters,child molesters in our old stock Canadians. Racists discriminate against all Christians, Jews, or Muslims or against all Syrians, Israelites or Germans because of a specific Sect, terrorist, killer, child molester. That is the difference!! That is racism. So. tell me again now why we should consider judging all Muslims as risky because of a sect of terrorists??

Must we ban all Christians because many killers child molesters, thieves were/are practitioners? Why non-whites are struggling to" join us" is beyond me as our treatment of our natives (who are mostly non-white) is and has been really horrible!! Not sure if it is two suicides a day or a week amongst their teens right now.


Ah so fake news is when it interferes with your belief and has very little to do with truth.


Yes- the poor Bluebyrd of happiness has flown away from the logic coop and flipped her logic lid! Hey featherbrain- we are not arguing an end to immigration- merely an end to POISONOUS IMMIGRATION! That means we want to limit the number of people who come here with designs for suicide vests in their note books!

As for your foolishness about natives- is it not an odd thing that native suicides ARE SPIKING NOW after two years of LIE-beral mismanagement? LIE-berals could screw up a two car funeral!

And in related news here is a story that does not bode well for Marijuana dealers- both legal and illegal! Consider:

Tax-free cigarettes adding to Ontario's contraband problem

CHRISTINE VAN GEYN, Special to the Toronto Sun
First posted: Wednesday, September 21, 2016 08:59 PM EDT | Updated: Wednesday, September 21, 2016 09:02 PM EDT. Toronto Sun files


Premier Kathleen Wynne knows that contraband cigarettes are a problem in Ontario — costing her government millions each year in lost revenues. But her tough talk doesn’t match her actions.

Let’s start with the tough talk. This past January she announced a whole new department within the Ontario Provincial Police just to deal with contraband smokes. Will it work? Maybe, maybe not. By itself, this probably won’t make the problem worse.

But what of her actions? A month after announcing the new OPP task force on contraband, the Wynne government hiked tobacco taxes by $3 a carton, making illegal cigarettes that much more attractive.

And then there’s the real kicker, the Ontario government allocates millions of tax-free cigarettes to smoke shacks on reserves for sale to Status Indians. In fact, they allocate so many cigarettes to reserves that it’s likely only 122 million out of 435 million cigarettes allocated to reserves are sold to Status Indians.

The leftovers? Sold illegally.

It sounds crazy, but it’s true. The Canadian Taxpayers Federation (CTF) has obtained documents through a Freedom of Information request that shows that Ontario Cigarette Allocation System is sending so many tax-free cigarettes to Ontario reserves that to be consumed legally, every smoker on a reserve over the age of 15 would have to smoke 61 cigarettes a day, every day.

It is painfully clear from these numbers that huge quantities of cigarettes from the government allocation system are being sold illegally to people who are not Status Indians. This fact is even more obvious when billboards for “smoke shacks” and “tax free smokes” are found throughout reservations.

Indeed, based on the government’s own numbers, the CTF estimates that last year, at minimum 47% and possibly upwards of 72% of all sales of tax-exempt government allocated tobacco were made illegally to people who were not Status Indians.

As for the recent tax hikes, there is a relationship between increased tax rates for tobacco and increased contraband. As tobacco taxes have risen, so has the incentive to smuggle, produce and sell tobacco illegally in order to avoid taxes.

The CTF also estimates that in 2014-15 alone, the overall contraband tobacco trade in Ontario cost the federal and provincial governments up to $1.22 billion in lost tax revenue. Over the past eight years, the total tax loss is as high as $9.2 billion.

To make up that tax hole, Wynne turns to hard-working Ontario families with plans like taxing home heating fuels, hiking gasoline taxes, and now possibly even applying a double land-transfer tax for homes outside of Toronto.

Law enforcement is a component in the fight against contraband, but doubling down on enforcement without changing the underlying conditions that fuel the contraband tobacco trade is throwing good money after bad.

One of the simplest steps to fight contraband would be to reduce the number of tax-free government allocated cigarettes given to aboriginal reserves.

The Ontario government should reduce the allocation amount by half, and then conduct a followup investigation to determine if further reductions are necessary.

This is a more sensible — and far less costly — solution than continuing to spend new money on enforcement measures while simultaneously hiking the taxes that drive consumers to the black market. It’s a solution that Wynne needs to consider if she is serious about fighting the black market in cigarettes, getting back some of those lost tax dollars, and keeping cigarettes out of the hands of children.

— Christine Van Geyn is the Ontario director for the Canadian Taxpayers Federation
 

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That's all well and good AFTER our own population is fully employed and living a decent life style and can afford the necessities of a decent life. I've got really no idea of what the exact number is but I think I can safely say there is a hundred thousand of our own indigenous people living a life of squalor and hopelessness. Let's get them up to snuff and THEN bring in a few refugees!

The history of refugees in Canada is that once admitted they do not stay refugees for very long. They get jobs and start paying taxes. As a result, rather than being a liability they soon become an asset.
 

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The history of refugees in Canada is that once admitted they do not stay refugees for very long. They get jobs and start paying taxes. As a result, rather than being a liability they soon become an asset.


I have no problem with that, but our own citizens should get first crack at it.
 

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The history of refugees in Canada is that once admitted they do not stay refugees for very long. They get jobs and start paying taxes. As a result, rather than being a liability they soon become an asset.

Boy is Canada in for a shock this time around!

*snicker*