When you reach the age of reason, will you reject supernatural religion?

Cliffy

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Bla bla bla... Nonsense and babble. Nobody reads your long diatribes cuz they are full of nonsense. God never wrote the book, men did and is subject to their beliefs. A thousand years ago the clergy though the world was flat because of what the bible said. A thousand years ago, people were born, raised and educated by the ignorant.
 

MHz

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That's because the earth isn't expanding.
Really?? What is the scientific term for a spreading and a subduction zones that are 200M years apart in time and 1,000's of km in distance? It also happens in all 4 compass points at the same time. Feel free to demonstrate that superior scientific mind of yours.


DB and I were chatting about black-holes and you wouldn't join in as the stuff we were covering hadn't even been discussed yet. The latest hd photo of Pluto shows massive subduction, as sinkholes, the far side of the moon is a step in that direction. You should join in, we might both learn something worthwhile before the thread runs out of steam.

I generally choose not to discuss topics that are scientifically illiterate nonsense with people who haven't the slightest understanding of what science is, how it works, and what it claims.
Why include me in that list? The base I was going to use for our discussion was the 'How the Earth was Made . . .' so that is hardly junk science and some things they promoted were wrong and i could have pointed out the flaws. You theories can't handle that sort of examination and you do not like to be shown to be coming in 2nd as far as 'how things work on a macro and cosmic scale. That is the tactic you use so you don't have to show you hand as it will be outdated or there won't even be one.
Question, the white haired Scientist that comes on CNN is pretty forthcoming with reason why some things are the way they are. His chat about Japan is flawed, is that because nuclear radiation is now harmless or is the nuclear industry demanding that is the answer and the money that changes hands makes truth disappear and the 'Scientist' goes on as if n-rad if actually good for people. Ever see how those topics go in a chat forum where people can/do call bullshit and they get away with it rather than the thread dies because the Scientist ran out of the room in tears, . . . again. You are anonymous, who cares if you let a few things out in exchange for learning something new.

As new data comes in why not use you knowledge to test the proposal. At 1/4 the current size would the air pressure be 4x the current level of some other number?? I don't know why you find questions like that as being repulsive but since you do I'm going to make fun of it a bit because it truly strikes me that way rather than I'm trying to mock you. Coming out with the wrong answer is how a person gets mocked and they do it to themselves in a scientific thread.

And that also explains other topics you claim I dodge; there's just nothing worth talking about in them, and it's a waste of time and energy to correct all the errors of fact and judgment people offer about them.
So this post is what you would consider to be the quality your mind requires. Amazing how easily you can disquise it to appear like acommon troll wrote it. I must have missed that class, thank God.

They'll never be convinced anyway, attempts to do so just strengthen their false convictions. It's called cognitive dissonance, you can look it up, it's pretty well documented.
It's more fun to see you hightail it from another scientific based thread. lol

The milky Way is a collapsing spiral galaxy, since the bulk of the mass is along it's equator it will collapse an an uneven rate so it can never become a 'black hole' as the compressed material will escape through the weak spot, the two poles.

Carry on Mr Gadget, lol

Bla bla bla... Nonsense and babble. Nobody reads your long diatribes cuz they are full of nonsense. God never wrote the book, men did and is subject to their beliefs. A thousand years ago the clergy though the world was flat because of what the bible said. A thousand years ago, people were born, raised and educated by the ignorant.
Most members would have trouble with Aespos fables. You using their low IQ as a reason you are lost is about as chickenshit of an argument that has ever been posted on this site, . . . ever.

I've been taking drama classes, does it show??

Where does the Bible say the earth is flat. In 30 some years of flipping pages I have yet to see that one. This one is as close as I have got.

Job:26:7:
He stretcheth out the north over the empty place,
and hangeth the earth upon nothing.
 

Dexter Sinister

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Why include me in that list?
Because you're scientifically illiterate, smugly self-righteous about it, and condescending to those who dispute you, same as you are about your biblical interpretations. With no formal scientific education at all, you claim the scientific consensus is wrong on many major things and you and people like that ignorant cartoonist who promotes the expanding earth hypothesis with YouTube videos know better, because of course you're open minded and receptive to new ideas and science is not, it's a closed fraternity conspiring to keep the truth from the rest of us. You have to know nothing about what science is, how it works, and what it claims, to believe nonsense like that.

Science rejects the expanding earth hypothesis because it has a better explanation for the available evidence, that's all there is to it. You can't legitimately demand that science disprove your claims, that's not how it works, you have to produce the evidence and arguments that show you've got the better explanation. That means you have to explain all the same evidence the consensus explanation does, and some that it doesn't, predict testable results the consensus doesn't, or that are contrary to it, and provide a plausible mechanism for all this. Until you can do that, you've got nothing but speculation and science will not accept your claims, you haven't done your homework.
 

MHz

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Because you're scientifically illiterate, smugly self-righteous about it, and condescending to those who dispute you,
Really?? Your proof of that is what?? Would a score 0f 99/99 in a mechanical aptitude test dispute your assumption without it being noted that I just walked in off the street and took the test.High School auto is apprentice level 1, I never got a mark that was below 95%.
My smugness is based on the extent of my knowledge in various subjects. So far mechanics is 'how things work' and I can a complex document and by the end have a summation of it' strong and weak points, that is a natural talent you don't have so why mock it when you encounter it in others. I'm assuming you had to study hard and by the very little you let out so far it is a memorization program rather than one of being able to Sherlock something out in real-time. That is also a threat to you and your rigid scientific belief.
I mock you when you refuse to take part in a discussion at a level that is above your gossip posts, like this one. That is the mocking that has been done and to have it fit your version of reality you even have to lie about events. You were the #1 guy on the site as far as science went and so far it is you that is inflexible and that can be shown by your attitude to global warming and what drives it. 9/11 would also show you are flawed in being able to determined what is science and what is junk science.

same as you are about your biblical interpretations.
Compared to your idiotic version of Revelations you really should have taken the time to listen to the opposing view. When your version is the only one that counts as being worthy of being posted that is a big flaw already and it is put there by nobody but you. The reason I know the book so well is that I have studied it for decades, is that not how knowledge is acquired. You certainly didn't follow that route, you couldn't understand it on your own so you read what others have said and you adopted a little bit here and a little bit there and made it into something that sounds complicated enough that some thought was needed to arrive at your current level of misunderstanding rather than level of understanding.
That was a bigger danger to your rep around here that the expanding earth type of posts. Today you are well aware that my version is solid and almost unique in it's format. The book made it that way rather than I doctored it up so I could appear to be as intelligent as you claim to be. You fell flat on your face when you did the interpretation of Revelations. You being outgunned is why you shy away from chatting with me, that is also a flaw rather than it being a helpful trait.

With no formal scientific education at all, you claim the scientific consensus is wrong on many major things and you and people like that ignorant cartoonist who promotes the expanding earth hypothesis with YouTube videos know better,
So much for your level of understanding. Neil Adams did not come up with the expanding earth theory, he made an animation of how that process is supposed to work. It came from a scientist, the same ones you like to brag up but since this scientist has a new theory it is automatically labeled as junk science or like you, lie and promote no scientist promotes it, only some wacky cartoonist.

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because of course you're open minded and receptive to new ideas and science is not, it's a closed fraternity conspiring to keep the truth from the rest of us.
You seem to be denying that science has been resistant to change as far back as 500AD. In the last century one such example is is the process that created the Washington scablands. Science promoted slow erosion and another scientist promoted a flash flood did the landscaping. That ruied his career and shortly before he died the scientific community had accepted his version was correct after all. Do you think he had the right to be somewhat bitter that his fellow scientists ruined his career over that. I can bring up more examples that relate to the scientific community ruining people who come up with new and valid theories.

You have to know nothing about what science is, how it works, and what it claims, to believe nonsense like that.
Is that your confession as it fits your conclusions. What part of the Atlantic being 5,000km wide and the Pacific being 11,000 wide over a period of 200M years is showing you that no expansion is taking place currently and never in the past??

Science rejects the expanding earth hypothesis because it has a better explanation for the available evidence, that's all there is to it.
The expanding earth used date that is less than 70 years old to formulate it's scientific background. Plate tectonics was promoted before that map was available so what proof were they using or was it just another guessing game. Science buries artifacts from the past rather than putting them on full display with and accurate explanation of how it came to be where it was found. Do you really want a list of vids that point to unusual artifacts being hidden rather than put on display and claim science is doing it's best at the same time. You are a scientist who is in denial that your industry is not as upfront as you claim they are. Time you accepted that fact.

You can't legitimately demand that science disprove your claims, that's not how it works, you have to produce the evidence and arguments that show you've got the better explanation.
The scientific principles behind the expanding earth are valid. Oceanic rifts and active volcanoes shows the magma is trying to get to the surface and when things heat up they expand.

That means you have to explain all the same evidence the consensus explanation does,
The would fall into place like dominoes, that is why you refuse to discuss any scientific issues as it is your version that would be shown to be the 'least likely'. That would crush you whole world as it is no longer a flexible one that science demands a person have as logical thinking is as important as holding something ancient.

and some that it doesn't, predict testable results the consensus doesn't, or that are contrary to it, and provide a plausible mechanism for all this.
You could always go and get a pressure reading from the Atlantic and Pacific Rifts and compare them to the pressures when a descent of magma is taking place such as in a line from James Bay all the way down to the GOM.

Until you can do that, you've got nothing but speculation and science will not accept your claims, you haven't done your homework.
I've done my homework and you are a fraud in both the scientific topics and especially in the topic of Christian Theology. I can live comfortably with that, too bad you can't.lol
 

Corduroy

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I wasn't trying to validate the Bible, I was showing that science is as corrupt as politics, medicine and religion.

The Bible won't be validated until the events associated with the 7 trumps begin to unfold. You have invalidated it because it doesn't fit the timeline you want it to follow. At that time events like Moses was doing will again be happening. That will constitute proof for some. Most have to wait for the 7th trump before they clue in. Until then ignore all the hype as it has nothing to do with God, it has everything to do with money-changes. Do you even know who they are these days??

Seven Trumps? Shit. One's too many.
 

Tecumsehsbones

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Seven Trumps? Shit. One's too many.
Yep, one's too many, and we have. . .

1. Kim Jong Don
2. Melanoma
3. Kim Jong Spud
4. Erik the Puce
5. I-can't-think-of-a-name-so-I'll-misspell-my-wife's
6. Stiffy
7. The Orange Baron

I think you need twelve.
Well, if you include:

8. Iwanna
9. Marble

and the adopted kids. . .

10. Stub Bunion
11. Jarhead
12. and the newest, Gurg Johnfarts

you got the whole dozen!
 

darkbeaver

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Scientific concensus is oxymoronic isn't it. Only scientific method and fact should be accepted. To study the horrific cost of error one should read about the search for the God Particle by Mr Higgs, a certified idiot who cost tax payers 38 billon dollars thus far searching for his Boson. Not one bottle capped yet. Electricity rules this universe, get used to it.

When you reach the age of reason you will be dropped to your knees slack jawed and drooling in the glow of your own ignorance and more than happy to lean on God. All your reason will not help you penetrate the infinite oneness of this place of being.
 

Tecumsehsbones

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Scientific concensus is oxymoronic isn't it. Only scientific method and fact should be accepted. To study the horrific cost of error one should read about the search for the God Particle by Mr Higgs, a certified idiot who cost tax payers 38 billon dollars thus far searching for his Boson. Not one bottle capped yet. Electricity rules this universe, get used to it.

When you reach the age of reason you will be dropped to your kness slack jawed and drooling in the glow of your own ignorance and more than happy to lean on God. All your reason will not help you penetrate the infinite oneness of this place of being.
Didn't you just say that only scientific method and fact should be accepted?
 

Corduroy

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Yep, one's too many, and we have. . .

1. Kim Jong Don
2. Melanoma
3. Kim Jong Spud
4. Erik the Puce
5. I-can't-think-of-a-name-so-I'll-misspell-my-wife's
6. Stiffy
7. The Orange Baron


Well, if you include:

8. Iwanna
9. Marble

and the adopted kids. . .

10. Stub Bunion
11. Jarhead
12. and the newest, Gurg Johnfarts

you got the whole dozen!

I think my parents have a Stub Bunion LP buried in their garage.