The First 100 Days in Trump Land

Cliffy

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MHz

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The Sky is falling, the sky is falling!
Didn't you hear, the shy fell on America in 1913 when the Rothschild bank got control of the US money supply.

heh heh good point Twila
:)
true for most though on both sides of the line

I get it...I volunteer at the local shelter
You should see what some of the wealthier a$$hat clowns in this town put us through over it...
While helping cause the problem themselves in some specific cases.

@ Coldstream
we will see how he handles the bad helpers over then next few days
Is that anything like seeing a BMW in the parking lot of Value Village??
 

Ocean Breeze

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Keeping your enemies off balance and guessing isn't a bad MOT either.

.....Taxsalve


AGREE. That is one part of his strategy that I personally think is a positive. The down side might be that it has put the world d on edge. That is a potentially negative factor in a tense environment.Which does not lend itself to constructive negotiations . Some intelligent balance is necessary as well
IMHO

Spot on. well articulated. Thanks for that: Both Stephen and Cliffy. ;-)
 

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If you think Trump just pulled on over on Assad and Putin you better think again. All this has shown is that no American can be trusted. In fact it shows that what they say and what they actually do is totally opposite. The mode chronic liars are stuck with.
 

Ocean Breeze

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If you think Trump just pulled on over on Assad and Putin you better think again. All this has shown is that no American can be trusted. In fact it shows that what they say and what they actually do is totally opposite. The mode chronic liars are stuck with.
Not for a single moment do I think that Trump pulled anything over any of the world leaders . I do think there is some benefit to playing ones potential military actions .....IF absolutely nec......... card close the chest Out side of that being unpredictable is poor leadership and is grossly irresponsible. It creates exactly what we are seeing. nations are on guard, and a lot more tense about what might happen next .. When the world environment is already te with the unpredictability of the ongoing terror acts there is enough unpredictability on the planet. That does not begin to cover natural catastrophes.

Nope........the only ones that Trump has pulled the wool over are his blind and semi intelligent followers who must have a fanatical bent at their ocre.

(although I have heard interviews with Trump supporters who are more and more disappointing in him and some ahve regretted dtheir vote) To these : BRAVO Others keep drinking the orange Kook ade.

Personally it is Putin wo has beenplaying Trump by playing to his ego. He so disliked Hillary athat he was ready to do some cyber quackery to get Trump elected.

I hear on BBC that Russia has hardened its stance TOWARDS ASAAD which will make any negotiations by Rex even more challenging. Putins no fool....... and if Trump thinks he can "work" him..........then Trump is a bigger fool than he has already shown himself to be.
 

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BBC?? Really??? lol

I notice not one Media outlet has been called fake since thisa change in headlines, I suppose you believe that lie as well.

I was quite a fan of his when he was making speeches and he was writing his own material. Not so much now as far as the world stage goes. Might as well fold as it is not a winning hand. Too many lost missiles and the Gatling gun type defenses weren't in play. Flying low will not defeat these systems and the missile launch platforms become a viable target all on there own. There is no known defense against the missile below.
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Ocean Breeze

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BBC?? Really??? lol

I notice not one Media outlet has been called fake since thisa change in headlines, I suppose you believe that lie as well.

I was quite a fan of his when he was making speeches and he was writing his own material. Not so much now as far as the world stage goes. Might as well fold as it is not a winning hand. Too many lost missiles and the Gatling gun type defenses weren't in play. Flying low will not defeat these systems and the missile launch platforms become a viable target all on there own. There is no known defense against the missile below.
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Yes,BBC ;-)It happened to be on at the time. Like most folks I watch several news media stations and comapre how the same story is presented and how it varies from station to station.

You make an emphatic point.;-)

Do you 'believe" the so called evidence that the US has about the chemicals having been used by Assad??? Rex is taking it with him to Russia .

Apparently Putin has mad no time for him. ( yet They knew each other in rather favorable ways ).

The US lost major credibility with its"evidence of WMD" as motive for the Iraq invasion. and has not recovered ..Don't think it will under this regime.as the leader is a pathological liar..


some of these relationships ..???
 

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Ja, und. . .?

How many people who support bombing Syria also support helping Syrian refugees? Not Trump and not a lot of his supporters. They claim moral justification for the bombing but it's only out of convenience. They don't care about helping Syrians. They just love war. They want Daddy Trump to strut around acting tough and destroying things. It makes them feel powerful and important.
 

Tecumsehsbones

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How many people who support bombing Syria also support helping Syrian refugees? Not Trump and not a lot of his supporters. They claim moral justification for the bombing but it's only out of convenience. They don't care about helping Syrians. They just love war. They want Daddy Trump to strut around acting tough and destroying things. It makes them feel powerful and important.
Do you understand the difference between "helping Syrian refugees" and "punishing a regime that commits war crimes?"
 

Corduroy

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Do you understand the difference between "helping Syrian refugees" and "punishing a regime that commits war crimes?"

Yes and I'm also aware of the connection between the two, and if you think they are not related then you're proving my point. Ask yourself why the world should punish Assad for using chemical weapons and you just might make the connection to why Syrian refugees need assistance.
 

Tecumsehsbones

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Yes and I'm also aware of the connection between the two, and if you think they are not related then you're proving my point. Ask yourself why the world should punish Assad for using chemical weapons and you just might make the connection to why Syrian refugees need assistance.
There are indeed connections. But you seem intent on making them the same thing, i.e., punishing Assad for using poison gas on civilians is a bad thing unless you are also accepting hundreds of thousands of Syrian refugees.

How many refugees of Central American violence has Canada or the EU committed to accepting?
 

Corduroy

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There are indeed connections. But you seem intent on making them the same thing, i.e., punishing Assad for using poison gas on civilians is a bad thing unless you are also accepting hundreds of thousands of Syrian refugees.

I'm not saying that. The morality of punishing Assad is not contingent on whether an individual supports helping Syrian refugees. They aren't the same thing, but the moral argument for punishing Assad applies to helping Syrian refugees, and my point is that I doubt the sincerity of people who support the bombings for humanitarian reasons but don't support helping refugees.

How many refugees of Central American violence has Canada or the EU committed to accepting?

As far as I know, only Colombia and Mexico have had a significant number of refugees to Canada. I suppose neither of those countries are properly Central America.
 

Twila

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How many people who support bombing Syria also support helping Syrian refugees? Not Trump and not a lot of his supporters. They claim moral justification for the bombing but it's only out of convenience. They don't care about helping Syrians. They just love war. They want Daddy Trump to strut around acting tough and destroying things. It makes them feel powerful and important.

Or....war is a generator of wealth for those in the business of making war.

Trumps a business man...
 

JLM

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How many people who support bombing Syria also support helping Syrian refugees? Not Trump and not a lot of his supporters. They claim moral justification for the bombing but it's only out of convenience. They don't care about helping Syrians. They just love war. They want Daddy Trump to strut around acting tough and destroying things. It makes them feel powerful and important.


You think Assad should be allowed to continue gassing his own people for his own entertainment?

Just for Locust and eaglecrack.


Yep :)
 

Tecumsehsbones

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I'm not saying that. The morality of punishing Assad is not contingent on whether an individual supports helping Syrian refugees. They aren't the same thing, but the moral argument for punishing Assad applies to helping Syrian refugees, and my point is that I doubt the sincerity of people who support the bombings for humanitarian reasons but don't support helping refugees.



As far as I know, only Colombia and Mexico have had a significant number of refugees to Canada. I suppose neither of those countries are properly Central America.
Well, we've got 3.4 million refugees from Central America, according to the Migration Policy Institute.

Here, educate yourself: Central American Immigrants in the United States | migrationpolicy.org

Or just continue whining about what bastards we are for not taking Middle Eastern refugees. Ignore the fact that we took in 86,000 in fiscal 2016.

You spelled 'America's Allie ISIS' wrong
Hush now, grownups talking. Go have a juice box. And your pills.

Or....war is a generator of wealth for those in the business of making war.

Trumps a business man...
As I said to Corduroy, we took in 86,000 Middle Eastern refugees in fiscal 2016. We also have about 3.4 million Central American refugees.

Yeah, we're real cold-hearted bastards.
 

Cliffy

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Yeah, we're real cold-hearted bastards.
You are ignoring the fact that your government is not the people. Americans are just people like any other. Your government, on the other hand, are a bunch of psychopaths who are only beholding to the people who paid to get them elected, not the people who actually elected them.
Also, when the chemical bombing is closely scrutinized, there is no reason or benefit for Assad to do that. In fact, it was completely against his interests to do so. He has enough problems with his country torn apart to bring down the wrath of the world on him. It just does not make any sense. Follow the money. It always leads back to oil.
 

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I'm not saying that. The morality of punishing Assad is not contingent on whether an individual supports helping Syrian refugees. They aren't the same thing, but the moral argument for punishing Assad applies to helping Syrian refugees, and my point is that I doubt the sincerity of people who support the bombings for humanitarian reasons but don't support helping refugees.



As far as I know, only Colombia and Mexico have had a significant number of refugees to Canada. I suppose neither of those countries are properly Central America.


Columbia is properly South America as is pretty much everything south of Panama. :)