Conservative senator defends 'well-intentioned' residential school system

Durry

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No good ever came out of getting an education.

Your right as it applies to the Indians.

We educated them and now they are taking us to our courts and sueing our asses off.
Should have left them stupid but still looked after them. See we lose again eh!!
 

petros

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I heard a gal on the radio said something to the effect of " the Elders better smarten the hell up and get over their bitterness and racism over residential schools and invest in on Rez education. In Canada my kids don't stand out as different in the classroom. It's no longer us and them".
 

Cliffy

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I have a thing with East Indians, I think if anybody owes Canadians an apology, it's the East Indians for the Air India affair.
We let these people into our country but they chose to bring their cultural and political garbage with them and then they chose not to cooperate with our Police forces to address their garbage issue. They chose to keep it to themselves.

And then after the bombing, they blamed and sued the Candians for not looking after them.

This is like me coming to your house with a sore throat and then later suing you for me getting phenomenon because you did not look after me.
Now how stupid is this??
If you are referring to your stupid analogy... it was very stupid.
 

pgs

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I heard a gal on the radio said something to the effect of " the Elders better smarten the hell up and get over their bitterness and racism over residential schools and invest in on Rez education. In Canada my kids don't stand out as different in the classroom. It's no longer us and them".
Of course it is now us and them , and the natives pretty much like us better then them .
 

Durry

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Why is it now with Canada being a multicultural country that we still need a White person (Libs have white women) to deal or work with the natives???
Just where are these other whining visible minorities, why aren't they negotiating with the natives???

Once again, it's the Whiteman doing the heavy lifting, while the vis mins try to look busy.
 

Twila

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I have no need to apologize to Aboriginals for residential schools, Japan for being nuked, the Irish for being starved, the Africans for being colonized or for the Jews being enslaved in Egypt. I also have no desire to be apologized to for any historical wrongs against my family or culture

Nor should you.

I don't feel any need to apologize for my presence here. I do very much want to know the true history. Not false history.

And I think that they have a right to have their truth brought to light, its their history. I grew up between farms and reservations on Vancouver island. I heard tons about my peoples history. Good and the bad.
 

petros

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What choice do they have when the incoming look at them and say "you hauve access to funding for you to get a PhD on top of a guaranteed 1-13 in a heated building with indoor plumbing and you spit at it?"
 

Twila

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Why is it now with Canada being a multicultural country that we still need a White person (Libs have white women) to deal or work with the natives???
Just where are these other whining visible minorities, why aren't they negotiating with the natives???

Once again, it's the Whiteman doing the heavy lifting, while the vis mins try to look busy.

Do you enjoy any interactions with other cultures? Ever?
 

Durry

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Nor should you.

I don't feel any need to apologize for my presence here. I do very much want to know the true history. Not false history.

And I think that they have a right to have their truth brought to light, its their history. I grew up between farms and reservations on Vancouver island. I heard tons about my peoples history. Good and the bad.

The real history about the natives has now been forever altered. All the negative history about the natives has been sterilized and removed from libraries and other sources.
I know because during one weekend I spent all weekend searching for books addressing many unpopular natives topics that I knew existed when I was in university reading these fine accurate historical books. They are all gone now.


Yes, I relate very well to all types of people who carry their share of responsibility
 

davesmom

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I think this has gone on for too long.

It's fair to say that almost every nation or ethnic group has picked on, attacked, killed or fought with other groups. Perhaps the UN can form a committee to create a list of the countries who, since the beginning of recorded history, were the meanest, most destructive on the planet. The UN can then chase after them for some kind of contemporary compensation.

Or perhaps we can simply say, yep, history is what it is. Humans are a mean spirited bunch!


Tribes all over the world have enslaved and/or killed neighbouring tribes. N.A. Indians, African tribes, some countries are still doing it, Afghanistan, mid-Eastern countries.
Yet these are the same people who come to Canada now and whine about being insulted and otherwise 'mistreated'.
 

petros

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Have you ever been mistreated by a Botswanan?

Have you ever been mistreated by a Native Canadian?

We need more Botswanans.
 

Murphy

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Perhaps the best way to handle any group who whines about being segregated, hurt, killed or otherwise hard done by, should be cut off from any and all help. The only entitlements would be what average Canadian might receive. No more financially draining special interest groups. Time to stop putting their hand into the taxpayer's pocket.

Almost everyone would agree with this except for politicians running for public office and any special interest group looking for free money.
 

Jinentonix

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Stealing kids from their parents , yikes . The chiefs wanted their children educated in white mans ways .
Not all of them. There were plenty of instances were kids were removed from their homes for no good reason other than to educate the Indian out of them. Now, I'm not saying absolutely no good came out of the residential schools. As I said, they weren't all hell-holes. I've run across a few Native people who went through the residential school system and benefited greatly from it, their words. I've also run across many others who were obviously damaged by the whole process.

At least one, St Mary's, performed nutritional experiments on the kids. There must have been something bad about those experiments because when the RCMP was finished with their investigation in the late '90s, the federal Liberals buried the report deep and gagged the RCMP.
 

Bar Sinister

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Well-intentioned? The residential school system was designed to destroy indigenous culture. Did a pretty good job didn't it?
 

Cliffy

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Well-intentioned? The residential school system was designed to destroy indigenous culture. Did a pretty good job didn't it?
Unfortunately, there are many here who think turning them into apples was a good thing. Yup, some of them embraced to mindless consumer, rape and pillage mind set of the dominant culture. Wow! I guess we'll see who came out on top when we are all choking in our own effluent.