Carbon pricing pushes gas prices higher in Ontario, Alberta
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As long as you pass all the regulatory requirements and environmental impact studies and pay the proper tythe to the local native band . Go ahead .
Sorry, but you didn't. Your figures simply do not make sense and you provide no evidence to support them. It looks to me as if you picked up a number from somewhere and simply tossed it out without checking.
Most of the analysis I have read puts the cost to the average family in the 4 to 5 thousand range as political nick states . As every thing government does always cost's more than they promise I think it is safe to use Nick's figures .
Ratepayers in the large cities will pay much less that those who live in smaller rural towns and have to commute. There is nothing balanced about this approach at all. Those that have access to mass transit and refuse to use it should pay more. The formula for reducing energy use should be directed at those who waste energy, not those who need it to sustain home and family.
It is a penalty for living in Canada. We are victims of our geography ... a spread out population living in a cold country and we therefore use more energy compared to our neighbour and competitor, for example, who will NEVER penalize their population in this manner.
There is some irony in the fact that those living in a cold country are paying the price for trying to stop it from warming up while those that also supposedly are, do not.
Are Canadians just stupid? Do the environmentalists that think from a global perspective, remember to include those nearest to them in that perspective?
I think it's more likely they have bought into the guilt trip of "privilege" and should renounce all their possessions and move to a third world county and live in a slum to alleviate that.
Are Canadians just stupid? Do the environmentalists that think from a global perspective, remember to include those nearest to them in that perspective?
I think it's more likely they have bought into the guilt trip of "privilege" and should renounce all their possessions and move to a third world county and live in a slum to alleviate that.
It's REALLY about increasing government revenues in a new and creative way. most of the rest of it appears to be an elaborate hoax.
I had to run to the store last night to get peppers for the stir-fry. Package of 3 was $6.99 compared to $4.99 last week. Gallon of milk used to be $4.68 was $5.98. Don't tell me my numbers are off. If anything those economists, the ones with degrees like me and not paid by the NDP, might be a little light at $4k-$5k.
On another note just read a Toronto Sun article of a plant in Ont getting abpower bill for $13k with a green levy of $107k attached. Won't take long for that to destroy business and industry and the population of the province. 800% of the usage as a "global adjustment fee" to subsidize wind and solar.
I'm really starting to think armed revolution is what will be needed to end this blatant disregard for the citizens and our right to live free from tyranny.
On another note just read a Toronto Sun article of a plant in Ont getting abpower bill for $13k with a green levy of $107k attached. Won't take long for that to destroy business and industry and the population of the province. 800% of the usage as a "global adjustment fee" to subsidize wind and solar.
The Provincial government is slapping these penalties on industry here just as we are facing the possibility of massive tariffs on our export products to the US being imposed. They want more revenue to finance their great behavioural modification projects but the net result might be the collapse of manufacturing and times less revenue for ever.
You probably pay more for air conditioning in Oakville than I do in Kap, but I would pay more for heat in winter.
The only difference would be transportation cost.
I once challenged Mentalfloss that I my carbon footprint is probably less than his Transportation wise, by showing him my car use cost for the last six months if he would show me his.....and he never got back to me...
I keep detailed records of everything,....it's easy in this digital age....
I disagree with your first statement and wholeheartedly agree with the second. Guess you can't pick thumbs up and down and the same time LOL
I believe in the ability of the scientists to measure carbon dioxide in the atmosphere. I believe that carbon dioxide is a greenhouse gas. To say that climate change is a man-made phenomena and that CO2 is caused by fossil fuel emissions is not entirely provable by the scientific method yet. That being said, the evidence vastly supports the theory. Even if the CO2 rise in the atmosphere is due to another factor, wasting energy and polluting is bad practice.
We have reduced the carbon output of our day-to-day living dramatically over the last decades as cars have become more efficient and coal generation has been retired. All of this was done without penalizing us with more taxation. The trend will continue without that taxation and you can see it in the consumer interest in hybrid and plug-in cars, for instance.
Nitrogen and oxygen would also qualify as ghgs under the current definition... makes one wonder why the scientists do not demand oxygen and nitrogen sequestration programs
One of the primary reasons that science can not pinpoint fossil fuel use as the culprit has to do with the notion that natural sources of CO2 emissions far outstrip human emissions
Understanding the above you had stated in addition to what I had mentioned, there is far more evidence to refute the theory as opposed to support it.
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I don't know Scooby's opinions on this, however it is true that climate change is in fact happening, the perceived cause, however, i.e. AGW is, in my opinion, either in question or pure fallacy. The climate has been changing for eons, long before humans, or any life form has set foot or fin on this planet and will continue regardless of any effort on the part of mankind.
The science of atmospheric change is pretty sound. The efforts being made to reverse it are questionable.
Typical that any problem handed to government gets made worse.
Typical that any problem handed to government gets made worse.
I don't know Scooby's opinions on this, however it is true that climate change is in fact happening, the perceived cause, however, i.e. AGW is, in my opinion, either in question or pure fallacy. The climate has been changing for eons, long before humans, or any life form has set foot or fin on this planet and will continue regardless of any effort on the part of mankind.
Could you please cite your source for definition of nitrogen and oxygen qualifying as greenhouse gasses?
There defiantly are naturally occurring sources of CO2, but these have been absorbed by the oceans and plant life at a sustainable level for a very long time.
The irony is profound in the simple fact that nearly all scientists agree on the climate theory, and the dissenting voices are for the most part from the same group that subscribes to ideas based on intuition instead of evidence.