2016 Presidential Campaign

hillary rodham clinton vs donald john trump who will win?

  • hillary rodham clinton

    Votes: 12 40.0%
  • donald john trump

    Votes: 18 60.0%

  • Total voters
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JLM

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You still never know, but I cannot see the US willing to listen to such hatred as Trump is desperate to convince people to accept. He probably doesn't even know how deep his bigotry goes, and everybody that has listen to him knows it. He could have talked about illegal immigrants without calling them rapist, lazy losers; he could have spoken about some devalued section of the US, who yes need help without calling them drug/guns infected losers; and most of all he should not have shown his deep fear of woman. I've seen this before, and it was at a buddy's house when I was growing up, the father and older brother were bigots who talked really bad about other races and of course, had no problem with slapping the mom, or give a kick in the *** of the kids in the house, let alone how they treated the dogs!! No need to say, that I did not go there more than a few times. I hope this is not the new vision of America!!


Is there really any difference between the disdain of Trump and that of Clinton apart from the fact that hers may be shrouded in slightly more delicate language on some occasions. Some of the adjectives she uses discussing and addressing Bill is definitely not elegant. Which one of the two is the bigger hypocrite? I'll take Trump any day.
 

davesmom

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You still never know, but I cannot see the US willing to listen to such hatred as Trump is desperate to convince people to accept. He probably doesn't even know how deep his bigotry goes, and everybody that has listen to him knows it. He could have talked about illegal immigrants without calling them rapist, lazy losers; he could have spoken about some devalued section of the US, who yes need help without calling them drug/guns infected losers; and most of all he should not have shown his deep fear of woman. I've seen this before, and it was at a buddy's house when I was growing up, the father and older brother were bigots who talked really bad about other races and of course, had no problem with slapping the mom, or give a kick in the *** of the kids in the house, let alone how they treated the dogs!! No need to say, that I did not go there more than a few times. I hope this is not the new vision of America!!


Well, there you go. Trump said SOME of the illegal immigrants are rapists and lazy losers and people jumped to assign his comments to ALL illegal immigrants.
He didn't ever devalue WOMEN. He devalued a few women who asked for his criticism by their unseemly behavior. But inevitably his comments were again assigned to ALL women.
It has been the same generalization with every word that comes out of his mouth. I doubt if he ever kicked the **** out of his kids, his wife, his ex-wives or anybody else's wife. Or goes around kicking dogs.


The new vision of America is not embracement of vile acts, it is the embracement of vile slander and misplaced accusations. And that is more 'deplorable' than anything that Trump has ever said or ever could say.

Is there really any difference between the disdain of Trump and that of Clinton apart from the fact that hers may be shrouded in slightly more delicate language on some occasions. Some of the adjectives she uses discussing and addressing Bill is definitely not elegant. Which one of the two is the bigger hypocrite? I'll take Trump any day.


I have noticed from the beginning of this campaign that Democrats used nastier and more defamatory rhetoric than the Republicans.
Hillary, Elizabeth Warren, Michelle Obama are the worst among the women although there are others for whom no insulting term is out of bounds.
Contrast their mad raving with the soft spoken comments by KellieAnn Conway, Melania and Ivanka Trump; they get their message across just as clearly without the vehemence of that Clinton crowd. They are definitely ladies!
I don't know about Chelsea; I haven't heard her using the loud, abrasive, defamatory language of the others. Most of her speeches have been about praise for her mother which is perfectly understandable. But just because I haven't heard it doesn't mean it didn't happen :)
 

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Donald Trump’s claim that the 2016 presidential election is “rigged” against him has become a central part of his closing argument to voters in the final days of the campaign, as the GOP nominee insists that a growing range of “corrupt” public institutions are to blame for his sharply narrowing path the White House.
As he heads into a potential loss on Nov. 8, Trump has expanded the scale and scope of his accusations to include Democratic rival Hillary Clinton, the media, establishment leaders from both parties and unidentified “global financial powers.”
“When the people who control the political power in our society can rig investigations like [Clinton’s] investigation was rigged, can rig polls, you see the phony polls, and rig the media, they can wield absolute power over your life, your economy and your country and benefit big-time by it,” Trump told a crowd this week in St. Augustine, Fla. “They control what you hear and what you don’t hear, what is covered, how it’s covered, even if it’s covered at all.”
The “power structure” he describes, according to a review of his speeches this week, includes banking institutions, the judiciary, media conglomerates, voting security experts, Democratic tricksters, scientific polling and also perhaps military leaders. He has also accused Clinton of meeting “with international banks to plot the destruction of U.S. sovereignty to enrich these global financial powers, her special-interest friends and her donors.”


https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/facing-potential-loss-trump-expands-the-list-of-conspirators-plotting-against-him/2016/10/27/7177c1ba-9ba8-11e6-9980-50913d68eacb_story.html?hpid=hp_rhp-top-table-main_trumpconspiracy-730%3Ahomepage%2Fstory
 

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This is more than a few years in the works. If they were going to have any lasting impact they would have already been acted on. So far not one person has been sanctioned yet if Soros was Iran his bank accounts would have been frozen a long time ago. Trump better send all the crooked bankers/politicians/CEO's to the ICC rather than have the US Justice system handle the trails as they would be one group that would be supplying a lot of the defendants. American judging Americans would be any better than Israel handling charges against Israelis as 'not guilty' is the normal end to those kinds of trials. Syrian war crimes would outnumber American by a few times so this isn't a path just for Americans. Rebels going on trial in Syria would be guilty on all accounts but the western press would just claim it was a kangaroo court rather than treason and war crimes were committed by the people who ended up on trial.
 

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I'd say that the ones who categorize all women in one lump have no credible arguments.



And the hits against Trump keep a-coming:



Former Miss Finland Is 12th Woman To Accuse Trump Of Sexual Misconduct



A former Miss Finland has come forward to allege that Donald Trump groped her while she was competing in the 2006 Miss Universe beauty pageant in New York.

Ninni Laaksonen told Finnish newspaper Ilta-Sanomat in an interview published Thursday that Trump grabbed her rear while she and three other contestants were being photographed before an appearance on "The Late Show with David Letterman."

“Trump stood right next to me and suddenly he squeezed my butt. He really grabbed my butt,” she told Ilta-Sanomat. "I don’t think anybody saw it but I flinched and thought: 'What is happening?'"

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"Somebody told me there that Trump liked me because I looked like Melania when she was younger," she told the newspaper. "It left me disgusted."

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/miss-finland-ninni-laaksonen-trump-groping-allegation
 

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EagleSmack

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Conspiracy theories are non-falsifiable. The loons that believe them believe in spite of contrary evidence or even because of contrary evidence. Any information that contradicts the conspiracy theory will be incorporated into the conspiracy theory.

 

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Would that be a kitty burrito, or a kitty gyro?
Puss in boots.
Trump's wife should supply a list of Americans that have groped her over the years. Anybody not thing that recording a locker-room conversation is not a bit creepy by itself. Where is the rest of the tape as it could show the other men there were saying even worse things.
 

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Have to give a few people time to pack their bags to escape charges of treason.
Are the Obamas, the Clintons and the Bushes going to seek refuge in Countries that don't Extradite to the US if Trump Wins? - The Washington Standard
It appears Bill and Hillary Clinton are making plans to flee the country in the event Donald Trump wins this election. Reports are circulating that the Clintons have transferred 1.8 Billion dollars from the Clinton Foundation to the Qatar Central Bank, via a facilitation/abatement of JP Morgan Chase & Company for reasons not revealed.
This move of such a large sum of money to the country of Qatar says in itself, Hillary Clinton knows she is going to lose the election, and she doesn’t plan to allow herself to be prosecuted for various high crimes and treason under a Trump Administration.
The country of Qatar happens to be one of a handful of countries that does not have an extradition treaty with the United States, thus would be a perfect place for her to run to in escaping justice.
Donald Trump has said many times during his campaign and at the Presidential debates that once he gets into office, he intends to prosecute her on various high crimes from her latest crimes of sending classified material via a personal e mail server. All the way to gun running to terrorist groups in Syria resulting in the deaths of 4 Americans in Benghazi
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Apparently, Hillary is not the only person in Washington who has made plans to escape justice under a Trump Administration. John Kerry has quietly been selling his property in the US for millions of dollars of late, with an announcement of the sale of his $25 million dollar Nantucket mansion in June 2016, as well as the sale of his yacht for $3.9 million in July 2016.
President Barack H Obama has also apparently been making exit plans with his purchase of a $4.9 million dollar seaside mansion in Dubai in January 2016, another non extradition country.
Snopes and other supposed fact checking sites have debunked both the story of Obama’s purchase of the mansion and the firing of Rear Admiral Rick Williams. However, over the last several months, these sites have been busted for lying in trying to debunk such information as the before mentioned, when in fact the information is true. Snopes and other sites try their best to keep incriminating information from being believed, but the truth has a way of coming out on its own, as it always has.




THE FIX IS IN: George Soros Causes OUTRAGE With SHOCKING Prediction About Election… | Top Right News
During an interview with Bloomberg News, Democrat mega-donor George Soros openly admits that GOP presidential nominee Donald Trump will win the popular vote in a “landslide,” but says a President Hillary Clinton is already a “done deal.”
In the interview which is now surfacing, the billionaire powerbroker Soros says with certainty that Trump will win the popular vote in the country, but says that won’t make him president because the Electoral College vote will go for Clinton.
When the interviewer asks if it’s a “done deal” for Clinton as president, Soros says “yes,” nodding his head. Check out the interview segment here:


If nothing else it shows you should addle brained old f*cks away from microphones.
 

JLM

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The comment still in the headlines is the only headline they have, Chillary has several new ones every day but Trump is the bad guy. A lotto should be started to guess how many bail from the country on Nov.9 till he takes the reins.
No doubt a few will be looking for amnesty is they become witnesses.
 

Cannuck

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It just amazes me that, in 2016, people can be not just accepting of Donald Trump's remarks but his attitude in general. The funny thing is, they have absolutely no idea how silly they look and that their kids are secretly embarrassed

'Your Clinton news network is BIASED’ LBC radio presenter and Daily Mail columnist Katie Hopkins in astonishing row with CNN presenter

Katie Hopkins in vicious clash with CNN reporter Hala Gorani | World | News | Daily Express

Nobody outside of Brittain cares what the Brittish folks think
 

davesmom

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It is entirely possible that 'rigging' is going on in elections. When computers are involved it would be easy to fix votes in several ways.
The election authorities all say there is absolutely nothing going on. What would you expect them to say? It could be going on right under their noses and with their aid for all anybody knows.
Computerization is a good thing in most cases but the old system of pen, paper ballot and manual counting in elections was guaranteed to be accurate and could easily be re-checked. It's not so easy to check computer votes that could have been deleted or changed.
 

Tecumsehsbones

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It is entirely possible that 'rigging' is going on in elections. When computers are involved it would be easy to fix votes in several ways.
The election authorities all say there is absolutely nothing going on. What would you expect them to say? It could be going on right under their noses and with their aid for all anybody knows.
Computerization is a good thing in most cases but the old system of pen, paper ballot and manual counting in elections was guaranteed to be accurate and could easily be re-checked. It's not so easy to check computer votes that could have been deleted or changed.
Actually, "election authorities" say that they are working hard to protect voting systems.
 

Cannuck

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It is entirely possible that 'rigging' is going on in elections. When computers are involved it would be easy to fix votes in several ways.
The election authorities all say there is absolutely nothing going on. What would you expect them to say? It could be going on right under their noses and with their aid for all anybody knows.
Computerization is a good thing in most cases but the old system of pen, paper ballot and manual counting in elections was guaranteed to be accurate and could easily be re-checked. It's not so easy to check computer votes that could have been deleted or changed.

I think it's the Joos