Justin Trudeau says abortion rights trump MPs' freedom to vote their conscience

petros

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Did I call you a murderer or ignorant?

It's my Right. A real honest to goodness Right to call you what you are. Ignorant.
 

gerryh

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Well, how generous of you. I did have an abortion, but it was a spontaneous one, So does that make me a murderer, by proxy??

You are complicit in the murder of unborn children by your very support of abortion.

You are in the wrong thread to start with. Second, being a believer in the firearm laws we have in Canada makes me a murderer?? How so? Did I pitchfork someone to death?


He never said that. Here's a reminder of how the convo went.


BUT I do not and won't try to control the decision of others.


THAT is what he was replying to. Your obvious lie of not trying to control the decisions of others. I guess you don't try to control it when it agrees with your particular brand of killing.
 

petros

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Forceps, scissors, scalpels, caustic saline solutions and vaccums probably take more lives in North American than anything else.

I'm kinda surprised at how well she hides her racism cloaked as care for the poor downtrodden women burdened with the ability to create life.
 
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Forceps, scissors, scalpels, caustic saline solutions and vaccums probably take more lives in North American than anything else.

I'm kinda surprised at how well she hides her racism cloaked as care for the poor downtrodden women burdened with the ability to create life.
What frustrates you is that I am far too smart for you to deal with. Name-calling instead of a reasonable come-back is the sign of not being intelligent enough to come up with any other type of response. What racism are you referring to?? I am a woman who has a good many women friends. I also have a more than a few male friends as well. Both genders include a fair number of races and languages. I would be interested in exactly which race you feel am I against??

I have no interest in the stats on abortion. However, I am interested in knowing if even one of those so verbally against a woman's right to choose,were there to help. I have discovered those who flap their yaps against abortion, provided anything, not even a smile if there was no man in evidence, Just snickers behind her back.

You are complicit in the murder of unborn children by your very support of abortion.




He never said that. Here's a reminder of how the convo went.





THAT is what he was replying to. Your obvious lie of not trying to control the decisions of others. I guess you don't try to control it when it agrees with your particular brand of killing.
I am not interested in debating my short-comings I am for a woman's right to choose. if she wishes to allow or not, a fertilized egg to come to term. You are against abortion fine, that is your decision Just keep the personal insults out of the debate,

If you feel it is murder, step up and volunteer to support as many of the results of conception as you can afford to. That is putting your money where your mouth is.
 
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petros

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Race AND poor. Which impoverished race does she dislike the most? Injuns? Blacks? Mexicans cuz they are mainly Catholic?

When a racist shows their hand is when they claim to have numerous friends of various races.

Who mentioned anything about stats?

Are there stats about races, poverty and abortion I should know about?
 

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And are you the father? That does;t count you know!

Race AND poor. Which impoverished race does she dislike the most? Injuns? Blacks? Mexicans cuz they are mainly Catholic?

When a racist shows their hand is when they claim to have numerous friends of various races.

Who mentioned anything about stats?

Are there stats about races, poverty and abortion I should know about?
Don't be so silly I have Indian friends both local and from the far east. In Quebec, Catholics abound. How many friends would I have if I did not have many that were Catholic (a few have slipped since we were young) . In the town I live in, there is simply one black family. I know them, but have never spent too much time with them. Their interests are younger than mine and so are their friends

As to the stats......that was a general statement, and was not addressed to you in particular. So what other reason should we approve of to ensure keeping every human egg comes to fruition?? We have not solved the problem of feeding all the young that misguided individuals have brought into being, Now people like you want to increase that number one hundredfold. Are you that mad?? What would be the next step?? Keeping every egg, women pass, & artificially fertilized them??? After all they all are sacred right?? Are all the scientists that could do this now and do not ..... murderers?? AH,,,,,,,what a ridiculous debate this is!!
 
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gerryh

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And are you the father? That does;t count you know !


No, I am not the father, or the step father.


I also see in your response to petros that you have moved the goal posts, again, and it is now every egg. Having a problem supporting unlimited abortion?
 

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No, I am not the father, or the step father.


I also see in your response to petros that you have moved the goal posts, again, and it is now every egg. Having a problem supporting unlimited abortion?
Abortion is abortion. There is no moving the goal post. What is the difference between a natural act and one done by artificial insemination?? Does the man being present make the difference?? If not how come all the save the egg men are not on a campaign to have every egg by all women artificially inseminated by sperm??

After all fertilized is fertilized. Of course any scientist that does not go along with such thinking could be dubbed a murderer, Think of all the joy self appointed upright God inspired persons could have, LOL
 

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Fertilized means dead or alive? Were the egg or the sperm not alive until they met?
Exactly,,,,,They are both alive and it is when they unite they become a zygote, So,,,,,,should they not all be saved?? A whole new way to control women could be the result......Of course we would all know who the male is and can make sure he contributed properly to the raising of his offspring,
 

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Yup. Save them all. We didn't get this far with just a million or two of us.
Quite right,,,,,,,But we would certainly need much better way of handling the dead when the food get low. At least there would be quite a few extra jobs even if there is no money left over to pay for the wee bit of food available. But hey!! we would be giving our lives to all those unwanted united eggs and sperm to feel ?good not,,,,,not good, righteous perhaps/
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gerryh

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Abortion is abortion. There is no moving the goal post. What is the difference between a natural act and one done by artificial insemination?? Does the man being present make the difference?? If not how come all the save the egg men are not on a campaign to have every egg by all women artificially inseminated by sperm??

After all fertilized is fertilized. Of course any scientist that does not go along with such thinking could be dubbed a murderer, Think of all the joy self appointed upright God inspired persons could have, LOL


an egg by itself can not become a human being. A sperm by itself can not become a human being. Scientists agree that once fertilization has occurred it is a new human life and IS alive.

When people, like you, resort to the "every egg and every sperm" argument it just shows that you don't have a real argument to support your support of "free for all" abortion like we have in Canada.


I also see you're back to the "God" thing. Not everyone that opposes abortion is a "God inspired person". As much as you'd like to think othyerwise so that you can dismiss the opposition, it isn't true.
 

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I know you love to fool yourself but understand you fool no one else. You called me a murderer for what I believe . That is is a lie and not by omission. You are a prejudiced, individual, who resorts to verbal abuse when told you are wrong,
What do you think of the practice of selling aborted babies for profit , or just to break even for that matter ?

Exactly,,,,,They are both alive and it is when they unite they become a zygote, So,,,,,,should they not all be saved?? A whole new way to control women could be the result......Of course we would all know who the male is and can make sure he contributed properly to the raising of his offspring,
Do you support the selling of zygote's for profit ? What a nice name , this baby is not a baby it is a zygote , go ahead and kill it if you want . Yup lets call a spade a shovel .
 

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There is no right to abort, it isn't right except

You made it you feed it, maybe it will extend your otherwise useless life.

There is no right to abort, it isn't right except

You made it you feed it, maybe it will extend your otherwise useless life.

And that was directed at whathisname. Treudeau should have his head squished to make plant food. That's not from the old block.
 

petros

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What do you think of the practice of selling aborted babies for profit , or just to break even for that matter ?


Do you support the selling of zygote's for profit ? What a nice name , this baby is not a baby it is a zygote , go ahead and kill it if you want . Yup lets call a spade a shovel .

If it cures her cancer, why would she care?