Donald Trump Announces 2016 White House Bid

[Tecumsehsbones]

Gez, I guess he didn't read the McLean's article about who was supporting Trump - the listed 11 people who were not "despicable" but "well-educated" individuals who say they're voting for Trump. Lets see - there was a "middle school" teacher, an Engineer, a University Professor (Huh???), an MBA student - that's as far as I got (read it in a waiting room of my son's physiotherapist). Unfortunately, I didn't get to read all of the article but it surprised me that of those that I read, the reason they were voting were pretty much what we've been hearing from others who may or may not be "as educated."


Just thought I'd throw that in....


Dix

Um. . . Dix? The term is "deplorable," eh?

And I will freely concede that there are 11 Trump supporters who are not deplorable.

I'd say 12, including me, but I am deplorable.

I also find it interesting that you seem to see "deplorable" (or as you call it "despicable") as a synonym for "not highly educated."

 

[davesmom]

I also find it interesting that you seem to see "deplorable" (or as you call it "despicable") as a synonym for "not highly educated."

That's how the intellectual 'snobs' would like us all to believe. However some of the most intelligent people I have known had only 'lower' education.


I guess the political pundits will add as many 'special' groups as they can to the population. Besides all of the different minorities who get special labels, there is now the 'educated' and the 'uneducated'.
Jeez! Can they get any more divisive?

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

That's how the intellectual 'snobs' would like us all to believe. However some of the most intelligent people I have known had only 'lower' education.

Funny part is Senator Clinton said only that about half of Trump supporters are "deplorables." She never said a word about their education levels. I mostly thought she meant that a significant chunk of Trump supporters are out-and-out racists.

But to repeat, Clinton never said a word about the education levels of the "deplorables." Nor is education level a part of the dictionary definition of "deplorable." The term usually means socially or morally unacceptable.

I think your equation of "deplorable" with "poorly educated" says more about you than it does about Clinton.

I understand that these facts will not shift your opinion a micron, I just thought I'd clarify for the record.

 

[davesmom]

Funny part is Senator Clinton said only that about half of Trump supporters are "deplorables." She never said a word about their education levels. I mostly thought she meant that a significant chunk of Trump supporters are out-and-out racists.

But to repeat, Clinton never said a word about the education levels of the "deplorables." Nor is education level a part of the dictionary definition of "deplorable." The term usually means socially or morally unacceptable.

I think your equation of "deplorable" with "poorly educated" says more about you than it does about Clinton.

I understand that these facts will not shift your opinion a micron, I just thought I'd clarify for the record.

That's how you see it. Okay.
I hear Clinton saying coal miners, steel workers and those blue collar workers who can't get jobs need to be 'educated' and retrained. (whether they want to be or not, I guess). College education ought to be open to everyone and it will be when she makes college tuition free. She puts quite a high premium on education.
Who will be the waiters, hairdressers, cleaners, trash collectors, janitors when they're all college educated and won't do 'menial' jobs anymore? Won't that really fix thing?


It seems more important to me to accept that not everyone needs to be collage educated to hold a valuable place in society. People need to show more respect and appreciation for those workers who perform necessary services that don't need a college degree


Raising the minimum wage? Clinton seems to think money and position are what makes a person valued. That's what I see in her. She's a viper! I don't think she actually cares what happens to anyone as long as she gets the vote and she'll say anything to get it.

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

That's how you see it. Okay.
I hear Clinton saying coal miners, steel workers and those blue collar workers who can't get jobs need to be 'educated' and retrained. (whether they want to be or not, I guess). College education ought to be open to everyone and it will be when she makes college tuition free. She puts quite a high premium on education.
Who will be the waiters, hairdressers, cleaners, trash collectors, janitors when they're all college educated and won't do 'menial' jobs anymore? Won't that really fix thing?


It seems more important to me to accept that not everyone needs to be collage educated to hold a valuable place in society. People need to show more respect and appreciation for those workers who perform necessary services that don't need a college degree


Raising the minimum wage? Clinton seems to think money and position are what makes a person valued. That's what I see in her. She's a viper! I don't think she actually cares what happens to anyone as long as she gets the vote and she'll say anything to get it.

I have issues with everything you just said, and maybe I'll take 'em up later. For now, I'll just point out that these positions Clinton has have nothing to do with her "deplorables" statement. You are jamming together unrelated points to support your festival of hate and self-pity.

 

[davesmom]

I have issues with everything you just said, and maybe I'll take 'em up later. For now, I'll just point out that these positions Clinton has have nothing to do with her "deplorables" statement. You are jamming together unrelated points to support your festival of hate and self-pity.

It doesn't really matter what Clinton had in mind with her statement. An American citizen doesn't deserved to be called deplorable, irredeemable and 'not American' by her while she lives with every advantage and luxury possible.
Clinton is the epitome of the Silver Tongued Devil.

 

[TenPenny]

So, no American citizen is deplorable?


Wow.

And, I gather that you think any unemployed coal miner should not be allowed to retrain for a different career.


interesting perspectives all round.

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

It doesn't really matter what Clinton had in mind with her statement.

True. You'll deliberately misinterpret anything she says. And claim she said things she didn't, as we see below.

An American citizen doesn't deserved to be called deplorable

I agree completely. It was probably Clinton's worst moment of the campaign

, irredeemable and 'not American' by her while she lives with every advantage and luxury possible.

I guess it's a good thing she never called anybody "irredeemable" or "not American" then, wouldn't you say?

I know, now you got it in your head, you'll swear through a nine-inch plank she did say that. It'll still be a lie.

Clinton is the epitome of the Silver Tongued Devil.

You clearly have no idea what that expression means.

 

[petros]

Never in my life have I ever wanted it to be December more than this year.

 

[JLM]

Never in my life have I ever wanted it to be December more than this year.

Is there something to look forward to in December?

 

[IdRatherBeSkiing]

Is there something to look forward to in December?

No more campaigning obviously.

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

No more campaigning obviously.

Yep, we'll be in full impeachment mode then. Before the inauguration, mind.

Always good to get an early start.

 

[spaminator]

'80s mobster threatened to castrate Donald Trump: Book
POSTMEDIA NETWORK
First posted: Friday, October 21, 2016 04:07 PM EDT | Updated: Friday, October 21, 2016 04:22 PM EDT
Donald Trump was threatened with castration by an angry New Jersey mobster after the billionaire allegedly tried to seduce the gangster's daughter in the 1980s.
Journalist David Cay Johnston alleges in his book The Making of Donald Trump that the Republican presidential candidate was smitten with the daughter of high-rolling gambler and occasional mobster Robert Libutti while still married to his first wife Ivana.
According to the book, the horse-dealing gangster got wind of Trump's inventions with his daughter Edith Libutti in the late-1980s and told him: "Donald, I'll f---ing pull your balls from your legs."
Before the alleged threat, the book claims, Trump had lavished the mobster's daughter with gifts and thrown her an elaborate birthday party.
The threat was apparently enough to scare The Donald off and Libutti continued to gamble at Trump's Atlantic City tables until he was banned from all New Jersey casinos over his alleged ties to organized crime, according to the New York Daily News.
At the time, Trump denied knowing Libutti.
"I have heard he is a high roller, but if he was standing here in front of me, I wouldn't know what he looked like," Trump told the Philadelphia Inquirer in February 1991, according to the Daily News.
'80s mobster threatened to castrate Donald Trump: Book | World | News | Toronto

Woman allegedly smears cars with peanut butter to protest Trump
Postmedia Network
First posted: Friday, October 21, 2016 07:23 PM EDT | Updated: Friday, October 21, 2016 07:34 PM EDT
If you’re going to be a peanut-butter-smearing wacko, at least you can be a choosy mother.
Cops say Christina Ferguson — who was allegedly hammered — took a “family-size jar of low-sodium, creamy natural Jif” and smeared it on more than 30 vehicles outside a Wisconsin building, apparently to take a stand against those attending a Donald Trump rally.
Before the alleged vandalism, police say Ferguson, 32, who despises the Republican presidential nominee, burst into meeting space to voice her anti-Trump views.
Only problem was, the meeting underway was for the Tomorrow River Conservation Society. She didn’t catch that fact before organizers shooed her out and the alleged peanut butter blitzkrieg began.
Cops says Ferguson used the peanut butter to draw phallic symbols and scribble profanities.
When cops nabbed Ferguson, at first she claimed she hadn’t left her apartment. She was, however, allegedly licking her fingers repeatedly, according to the police complaint.
“Peanut buttering is better than firebombing, and Trump plans on firebombing everybody in other countries,” Ferguson reportedly told detectives.
“Fortunately it wasn’t chunky peanut butter, so vehicles didn’t get scratched,” said Chief Deputy Dan Kontos.
She faces mischief charges.
(Portage County Jail/HO)

Woman allegedly smears cars with peanut butter to protest Trump | Home | Toronto

peanut butter rip.

 

[Curious Cdn]

An American citizen doesn't deserved to be called deplorable, irredeemable

Right you are. There are far too many syllables in both of these words than the average American can keep up with.

 

[spaminator]

Porn star accuses Donald Trump of offering $10,000 to come alone to hotel suite
Rosalind S. Helderman, The Washington Post
First posted: Saturday, October 22, 2016 09:53 PM EDT | Updated: Saturday, October 22, 2016 10:22 PM EDT
An adult film actress on Saturday accused Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump or someone acting on his behalf of offering her $10,000 and the use of his private jet if she would agree to come alone to his hotel suite at night after a golf tournament in Lake Tahoe in 2006.
Jessica Drake, who spoke at a news conference alongside attorney Gloria Allred, said she met Trump while working a booth at the tournament for her employer, Wicked Pictures. Trump then invited her and two other women to his suite in the evening, where, while wearing pajamas, Drake said he kissed the women each in turn without their permission.
According to Drake, after the group left his suite, a man called and asked her to return alone. When she declined, Drake said she was then called by Trump, who asked to her to come to his suite for dinner and a party. "What do you want?" she said he asked. "How much?"
Later, she said Trump, or a man calling on his behalf, called again, this time with the monetary offer, which she said she declined.
Trump's campaign issued a statement calling Drake's account "totally false and ridiculous" and indicating that Trump "does not know this person, does not remember this person and would have no interest in ever knowing her."
Drake is the 11th woman to have spoken publicly about unwanted sexual advances from Trump since he insisted he had never engaged in such conduct at the second presidential debate on Oct. 9.
He had been asked whether he ever did so after a 2005 video emerged of Trump bragging to "Access Hollywood host" Billy Bush about having groped women.
Trump has denied the claims of the women, accusing them of working in concert with the campaign of Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton and the media to hurt him.
"Every woman lied when they came forward to hurt my campaign," Trump said at a rally in Gettysburg, Pennsylvania, on Saturday. "Total fabrication. The events never happened. Never. All of these liars will be sued after the election is over."
Though Allred is an outspoken Clinton supporter, Trump has provided no evidence the women have been working with the Democrat's campaign.
Allred, who is representing Drake and two other Trump accusers, sharply rebuked Trump for the lawsuit threat, noting that a lawsuit would open him to countersuits and would require him to testify under oath about his sexual history.
"Mr. Trump, your threat is below the dignity of the office that you are seeking," she said.
At the news conference, Drake, which is the actress's stage name, held up a picture of her and Trump from the event and said she had told several friends about the proposition immediately after it occurred. She did not name the friends.
Trump's campaign statement called the picture "one of thousands taken out of respect for people asking to have their picture taken with Mr. Trump."
An account published online in 2006 by AVN, a trade publication for the adult film industry, quoted another Wicked Pictures contract actress about having met Trump at a 2006 Lake Tahoe golf tournament and indicated Drake had attended as well.
Jessica Drake listens to a question during a news conference at the office of her attorney, Gloria Allred, in Los Angeles on Saturday, Oct. 22, 2016. Drake, an adult film actress, said Donald Trump kissed her and two other women on the lips "without asking for permission" when they met him after a golf tournament in 2006. (AP Photo/Ryan Kang)

Porn star accuses Donald Trump of offering $10,000 to come alone to hotel suite

 

[davesmom]

"Hell hath no fury like women scorned"

 

[spaminator]

People boycotting Ivanka Trumps's fashion line with #grabyourwallets campaign
Postmedia Network
First posted: Monday, October 24, 2016 08:41 PM EDT | Updated: Monday, October 24, 2016 08:49 PM EDT
You are who you wear, at least according to one woman who has started a boycott campaign of Ivanka Trump’s fashion line.
The Ivanka Trump Collection is under attack thanks to Shannon Colter, who started the #grabyourwallet Twitter campaign last week. The hashtag is a direct reference to Trump’s now-infamous words about grabbing women by their genitals. Started on October 11, it has received over two million impressions on Twitter.
Coulter, a brand and digital strategist in San Francisco, wants people to stop buying the line which includes clothing, handbags, jewelry, eyewear, as well as women’s and kids' shoes. Coulter cites Ivanka’s continuous support for her father as a setback to women and female empowerment.
She’s now gone as far as calling a boycott of at least a dozen major North American retailers who carry the line.
According to Global News, as of Thursday, only two of the department stores responded to comment on the issue: Nordstrom and Zappos.
Zappos declined to comment while Nordstrom said, "We have received some feedback from customers, though we don’t currently have plans to stop offering this brand,” according to Global.
Ivanka was recently asked about the issue of leading a brand that champions working women while also supporting her father, who has been accused of multiple sexual assaults.
”My brand was launched far before the presidential cycle commenced and will continue long afterwards,”Ivanka said, according to People. “I’ve always tried to maintain complete separation between that and the campaign. With that said, you know, one of the challenging things is just operating, living one’s life, with the intensity and the scrutiny of this process is a very hard thing actually to do.”
Ivanka’s collection is no stranger to controversy. This year her brand was sued by Aquazzura for copyright infringement and it also had roughly 20,000 scarves recalled for having an above-average burn risk.
People boycotting Ivanka Trumps's fashion line with #grabyourwallets campaign |

 

[davesmom]

People boycotting Ivanka Trumps's fashion line with #grabyourwallets campaign
Postmedia Network
First posted: Monday, October 24, 2016 08:41 PM EDT | Updated: Monday, October 24, 2016 08:49 PM EDT
You are who you wear, at least according to one woman who has started a boycott campaign of Ivanka Trump’s fashion line.
The Ivanka Trump Collection is under attack thanks to Shannon Colter, who started the #grabyourwallet Twitter campaign last week. The hashtag is a direct reference to Trump’s now-infamous words about grabbing women by their genitals. Started on October 11, it has received over two million impressions on Twitter.
Coulter, a brand and digital strategist in San Francisco, wants people to stop buying the line which includes clothing, handbags, jewelry, eyewear, as well as women’s and kids' shoes. Coulter cites Ivanka’s continuous support for her father as a setback to women and female empowerment.
She’s now gone as far as calling a boycott of at least a dozen major North American retailers who carry the line.
According to Global News, as of Thursday, only two of the department stores responded to comment on the issue: Nordstrom and Zappos.
Zappos declined to comment while Nordstrom said, "We have received some feedback from customers, though we don’t currently have plans to stop offering this brand,” according to Global.
Ivanka was recently asked about the issue of leading a brand that champions working women while also supporting her father, who has been accused of multiple sexual assaults.
”My brand was launched far before the presidential cycle commenced and will continue long afterwards,”Ivanka said, according to People. “I’ve always tried to maintain complete separation between that and the campaign. With that said, you know, one of the challenging things is just operating, living one’s life, with the intensity and the scrutiny of this process is a very hard thing actually to do.”
Ivanka’s collection is no stranger to controversy. This year her brand was sued by Aquazzura for copyright infringement and it also had roughly 20,000 scarves recalled for having an above-average burn risk.
People boycotting Ivanka Trumps's fashion line with #grabyourwallets campaign |

Women's Empowerment movement is just one more stupid way of dividing society into 'quest for power' groups. FGS, how much power would it take to satisfy these groups?


Weak people who cannot empower themselves group together to achieve what they haven't got the guts and the smarts to achieve on their own.


Every Peggy, Sue and Mary uses whatever means they can grab onto to get themselves in the limelight. Because they are a jealous bunch of losers? I think so!


All people have the same chance for equality if they know enough to use their chances. But some would rather tear others down to build themselves up. Women like this make me laugh.

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

Women's Empowerment movement is just one more stupid way of dividing society into 'quest for power' groups. FGS, how much power would it take to satisfy these groups?


Weak people who cannot empower themselves group together to achieve what they haven't got the guts and the smarts to achieve on their own.

Such people are known as "shareholders," and their groups are called "corporations."

Every Peggy, Sue and Mary uses whatever means they can grab onto to get themselves in the limelight. Because they are a jealous bunch of losers? I think so!


All people have the same chance for equality if they know enough to use their chances. But some would rather tear others down to build themselves up. Women like this make me laugh.

Sorry you object to free adults gathering voluntarily to use their economic power to effect change in the free market.

Maybe a good flogging'd bring 'em into line.

 

[Remington1]

I have no vote, so for me it's all cool. The US is our neighbour and our friend, so I am interested in their election. I would say that Trump supporters come from a variety of socio-economic groups, as well as a huge spectrum of professionals- non professionals, same as the Democrats. I, however cannot bring myself to see Trump as a credible candidate, but I don't live in the US, so who cares. But honestly, if I had lived in New York during 9/11! or Boston during the bombing or for many many, lost my house during the 2008 financial collapse, due to clear incompetence and greed; how can you trust these same financiers who lost track of risk, seriously!! Where were the politicians? Who knows what I would do behind the small voting booth? Britain certainly underestimated the little private booth. Trump is right to continue campaigning and Hillary is right to keep going. Should be an interesting Nov. 8th!!