Media Are Flat Wrong to Dismiss Voter-Fraud Concerns

eh1eh

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No secret why the Democrats are against Voter ID Laws. It is harder to steal elections with them in place.


Ya, it's way easier with DieBold.
Or DieBold
Or DieBold

Carding people who can't afford to get cards or have had license offices closed in their neighborhoods so can't get to one because corporate America has sent jobs to jurisdictions that work cheap and they are working three sh1t jobs just to get food and rent does not stop voter fraud.
Poor people are not voting multiple times thus changing election results. They are just not voting for the money grubbing right so in that lies the problem.

I would have posted two videos as well but it seems to be a clique privilege to post a video now.
 

Tecumsehsbones

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No they have all been allowed to stand . It is who counts the votes that matter , right ?
Tamany Hall anyone .
Not one. Even the freakshow rightwing conspiracy sites don't claim a. . . single. . . specific. . . election. . . that was changed by voter fraud.
 

tay

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Anyone remember the Black Panthers stopping people, white people, from voting back in 2012?

NO. Maybe you can refresh our memories.

Of course the following would work for both sides......

Concerns are growing over the possibility of a rigged presidential election. Experts believe a cyberattack this year could be a reality, especially following last month's hack of Democratic National Committee emails.

The ranking member of the Senate Homeland Security Committee sent a letter Monday to the Department of Homeland Security, saying in part: "Election security is critical, and a cyberattack by foreign actors on our elections systems could compromise the integrity of our voting process."

Roughly 70 percent of states in the U.S. use some form of electronic voting. Hackers told CBS News that problems with electronic voting machines have been around for years. The machines and the software are old and antiquated. But now with millions heading to the polls in three months, security experts are sounding the alarm, reports CBS News correspondent Mireya Villarreal.

For weeks, Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump has told his supporters the outcome of the 2016 election could be out of his control.

"I'm afraid the election is going to be rigged, I have got to be honest," Trump said to Ohio voters last week.

But for the hackers at Symantec Security Response, Election Day results could be manipulated by an affordable device you can find online.

"I can insert it, and then it resets the card, and now I'm able to vote again," said Brian Varner, a principle researcher at Symantec, demonstrating the device.

Hacker demonstrates how voting machines can be compromised - CBS News
 

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Mike Roman of 'supposed' Black Panther voter intimidation fame, is now running trump’s election protection

Donald Trump’s “election protection” effort will be run by Mike Roman, a Republican operative best known for promoting a video of apparent voter intimidation by the New Black Panthers outside a polling place in 2008.

Roman is to oversee poll-watching efforts as Trump undertakes an unprecedented effort by a major party nominee by calling into question the legitimacy of the popular vote weeks before election day.

The Republican nominee has insisted, without evidence, that dead people and illegal immigrants are voting in the United States.

Roman is best known for his role in promoting a video that showed two members of the New Black Panthers – a fringe group that claims descent from the 1960s radicals – standing outside a Philadelphia polling place dressed in uniforms, with one carrying a nightstick. Police are called and the two men leave.

A justice department investigation into the incident – filed in the weeks before George W Bush left office – became a political football that divided career lawyers within the justice department. The incident was repeatedly cited as evidence of Democrats setting out to harm the election process.

The case was eventually dropped but not before it became a conservative cause célèbre. As Rick Hasen, a election law professor at the University of California, Irvine, told the Guardian: “It was one of the most retold stories on Fox News and the right for years and took on almost mythical status as evidence of thuggery by Democrats to harm the voting process.”

Hasen, who viewed the case as a “complete tempest in teapot”, said of Roman that he was “somebody who has been more willing to put forth more outrageous statements about voter fraud and election process”. Hasen added: “I don’t consider him a very responsible voice among Republicans on this question and I’m not surprised that Trump would be using him for polling related efforts.”

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...oman-to-run-donald-trumps-election-protection
 

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Some Americans amaze me - they don't want background checks for individuals getting guns and they don't want people to provide ID when voting. That amazes me - very much like Trudeau not objecting to women wearing burka's when doing citizenship or voting. Simply doesn't make any sense to me. But then common sense left years ago LOL


In Canada we're asked to provide ID not only to ensure who you are but if you're voting in the right district. Doesn't seem to be an issue here!


JMHO
 

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There's not a single verified case of an election being changed by voter fraud. Not one.
Fox News has found that Barrack Obama absolutely would not have won the 2008 election without the help of election fraud in 2008.

Obama Would Not Have Won The 2008 Election Without Voter Fraud...
Shawn’s investigation found that Democratic operatives were convicted in April of 2013 for forging anywhere from 100-200 election petition forms that qualified Barrack Obama to enter the 2008 primaries.
Obama Would Not Have Won The 2008 Election Without Voter Fraud - Get Off The BS

not just voter fraud
propaganda is also legal in the US
easy work too if you can get it

Fox News has found that Barrack Obama absolutely would not have won the 2008 election without the help of election fraud in 2008.

Obama Would Not Have Won The 2008 Election Without Voter Fraud...
Shawn’s investigation found that Democratic operatives were convicted in April of 2013 for forging anywhere from 100-200 election petition forms that qualified Barrack Obama to enter the 2008 primaries.
Obama Would Not Have Won The 2008 Election Without Voter Fraud - Get Off The BS

not just voter fraud
propaganda is also legal in the US
easy work too if you can get it
Indiana law requires Presidential candidates to obtain at least 500 signatures from all 9 congressional districts prior to being allowed on the primary ballot. Obama qualified with 534 signatures in the 2nd Congressional District. It is believed that nearly 100 of those signatures are forgeries, meaning the President would not have qualified to be on the primary ballot in the state.

Without the forged signatures, Obama would not have been allowed to run for President in 2008.
from the above
 

Tecumsehsbones

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Some Americans amaze me - they don't want background checks for individuals getting guns and they don't want people to provide ID when voting. That amazes me - very much like Trudeau not objecting to women wearing burka's when doing citizenship or voting. Simply doesn't make any sense to me. But then common sense left years ago LOL


In Canada we're asked to provide ID not only to ensure who you are but if you're voting in the right district. Doesn't seem to be an issue here!


JMHO
Almost as amazing as the people who want to deny people the vote if they don't have certain, specific ID, but feel that anybody should be allowed to buy a gun with no training, no records, and no check on their criminal and mental health history.
 

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Some Americans amaze me - they don't want background checks for individuals getting guns and they don't want people to provide ID when voting. That amazes me - very much like Trudeau not objecting to women wearing burka's when doing citizenship or voting. Simply doesn't make any sense to me. But then common sense left years ago LOL

A simple proof of identification is too much to ask.

Plus... how can Democrats steal elections if IDs are required?


In Canada we're asked to provide ID not only to ensure who you are but if you're voting in the right district. Doesn't seem to be an issue here!

In the U.S that common sense law is considered racists and disenfranchising.
 

EagleSmack

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Well, if it's being investigated, that means it must have happened!

An investigation always been enough for you T-Bones!

 

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Ballot Box tampering in the US??? I lived in a city where for 2 rounds of local elections there were more votes cast than the city had registered voters. On both occasions the election results were verified any way!
 

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Ballot Box tampering in the US??? I lived in a city where for 2 rounds of local elections there were more votes cast than the city had registered voters. On both occasions the election results were verified any way!

The results must have been optimal.
 

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The Americans run their elections at the locsl level. Here in Canada, we have Elections Canada sho run the whole show but down there, there is no central body like that. On the one hand, it would make it easier to stuff a ballot box in Bugtussle without someone other than themselves watching. The decentrallized system, though, would make it impossible to put together a nation-wide conspiracy and thus fix a Presidential vote.