Vice Presidential Debate

JLM

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You never see conservative talk of "sanctity of life" manifest itself in anything other than limiting women's reproductive rights. They don't care about life. They only want to control female sexuality.


Perhaps you are hanging out with the wrong "Conservatives". What percentage of the population identify themselves as Conservative, Liberal, Socialist or any other political persuasion? The vast majority of the population makes a determination every 4 years or possibly every two years and in between concern themselves with other things. We're not all obsessed like M.F. and Locust. :) :) :)
 

Corduroy

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I hang out with only best conservatives, OK? Believe me, I hang out with some of the best and they are best. Everyone says I have the best conservatives and we hang out.
 

Danbones

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Conservatories, hmmm...
I suppose...it's a tory hanging out there?
 

JLM

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I hang out with only best conservatives, OK? Believe me, I hang out with some of the best and they are best. Everyone says I have the best conservatives and we hang out.


How many people think "conservatively" in all facets of their life? About 3% of the most boring people? :) :) Ooops sorry Walter! :)
 

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You never see conservative talk of "sanctity of life" manifest itself in anything other than limiting women's reproductive rights. They don't care about life. They only want to control female sexuality.
Yer so stoopid.
 

JLM

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It's not difficult, but is it relevant?


Just for people who want to relegate everyone to a little "cubby hole" based on political obsessions and not realizing the vast majority of people are a conglomeration of a hundred different things and politics is but a tiny part.
 

Corduroy

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Just for people who want to relegate everyone to a little "cubby hole" based on political obsessions and not realizing the vast majority of people are a conglomeration of a hundred different things and politics is but a tiny part.

OK, thanks.
 

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Like I said during the presidential debate: the winner of the debate is determined by the polls afterward. Not polls of people saying who won the debate, but polls measuring how people are going to vote. I doubt many people are going to change their opinions based on the veep debate and within the next week non-VP related developments could influence polls more. It could be difficult to determine whether the VP debate actually had an impact.

But if you really want to fight out who "won", you could always look at the reactions of the candidates, their media surrogates and the media itself. You generally can't trust any of them, because they'll declare victory even before the debate. So if Republicans or the Republican media say Pence won, you can't put much stock in that, but I've seen Democrats and left-leaning media declare it a tie, which means they lost.
Dewey Wins >

You never see conservative talk of "sanctity of life" manifest itself in anything other than limiting women's reproductive rights. They don't care about life. They only want to control female sexuality.
In this day and age with education beginning in grade school and contraceptives readily available , that argument really shouldn't have to carry as much weight .
 

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Is your stance that an elected official should follow his religious beliefs even to the point of ignoring the law?


What good is a religious belief if it imposes no obligation on the person in the public sphere.

Do you think that the many clergy, men and women, like Dietrich Boenhoeffer, Maximilian Kolbe, Edith Stein, who died in Nazi Concentration Camps, were obligated to follow the immoral laws of National Socialism over their own religious consciences. Abortion has claimed over 60 million lives in America since Roe v Wade in 1973, a holocaust many times the magnitude of that of the Nazis.

These are lives the were inscribed in the Book of Life by God, as Mike Pense state in the debate, invested with the full rights of personhood in the human community at the moment of conception. Tim Kaine simply submits to the right of the 'Law' to declare any life, even the most vulnerable, as eligible to arbitrary termination as an inconvenience to a parent or the state.

This is in contradiction to entire history of jurisprudence in Christian Civilization and beyond any recognition of an absolute, supernatural and transcendent 'Good' to which justice must be subservient.

You know where he's going to stand of Euthenasia. He has affirmed that homosexuality is natural, genetic, inevitable and legitimizes the devolution of marriage into an absurdity rather than a sacrament all in direct opposition of his own Scriptures and canon as a Catholic.

When i look at Kaine i recall the reference to Adolf Eichman, the arch administrator of the Final Solution, as to the banality of Evil, a bureacrat in the mechanism of a state infused with death and disorder.. obedient to a fault.
 
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