U.S., Russia seal Syria ceasefire deal, military partnership

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No I can't, that kind of makes the other 99 Nations irrelevant so why don't they just boycott the UN and quit paying any dues? Let the 5 (+1) bankroll the whole thing if their vote is the only ones that counts.
 
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Very good question that begs an answer.
With the u.s. fingering russia as a hostile nation taking advantage of a place like crimea it's hard to understand obama agreeing to a tag team effort with them in syria.
Nuther conflict brewing with china and russia challenging a un directive in the south china sea where again the u.s. and russia/china will face off, I see little hope for longevity of the syrian tag team.
https://sputniknews.com/asia/20160911/1045201220/russia-south-china-sea-navy.html

Have to wonder too how long the cold war will remain cold or at least cool with all the recent sabre rattling.
 
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I think we need a return to the Cold War daze. That way, Russia and the US can practise dropping New-clear weapons on regions middle of the east and North of your Korea.

Years ago, a person knew where he stood. It was a MAD world...but we liked it!

Fixing Old Things that Worked!

We've got DNA unravelled
Umbilicals on ice
We can harvest and regrow new cells
And efficiently gene splice

With all this tech behind us
The Middle East and Korea raging
Let's do the thing we need to do
And dig up Ronald Reagan!

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DB, sent that post to Hillary, that should finish her as it knocked me off my chair and I'm relatively healthy.
 
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PoliticalNick said:
Amazing how many times the US has vetoed stuff like this. They have a 100% record of vetoing any resolution against Israel. That's how useless the UN really is.

39 times from 1972 to 2004 and usually the only vote against

Sept. 10, 1972—Condemned Israel’s attacks against Southern Lebanon and Syria; vote: 13 to 1, with 1 abstention
July 26, 1973—Affirmed the rights of the Palestinian people to self-determination, statehood and equal protections; vote: 13 to 1, with China absent.
Dec. 8, 1975—Condemned Israel’s air strikes and attacks in Southern Lebanon and its murder of innocent civilians; vote: 13 to 1, with 1 abstention.
Jan. 26, 1976—Called for self-determination of Palestinian people; vote: 9 to 1, with 3 abstentions.
March 25, 1976—Deplored Israel’s altering of the status of Jerusalem, which is recognized as an international city, by most world nations and the United Nation’s; vote: 14 to 1.
June 29, 1976—Affirmed the inalienable rights of the Palestinian people; vote: 10 to 1, with 4 abstentions.
April 30, 1980—Endorsed self-determination for the Palestinian people; vote: 10 to 1, with 4 abstentions.
Jan. 20, 1982—Demanded Israel’s withdrawal from the Golan Heights; vote: 9 to 1, with 4 abstentions.
April 2, 1982—Condemned Israel’s mistreatment of Palestinians in the occupied West Bank and Gaza Strip and its refusal to abide by the Geneva Convention protocols of civilized nations; vote: 14 to 1.
April 20, 1982—Condemned an Israeli soldier who shot 11 Muslim worshippers on the Temple Mount of the Haram al-Sharaf near the Al-Aqsa Mosque in the Old City of Jerusalem; vote: 14 to 1.
June 8, 1982—Urged sanctions against Israel if it did not withdraw from its invasion of Lebanon; vote: 14 to 1.
June 26, 1982—Urged sanctions against Israel if it did not withdraw from its invasion of Beirut, Lebanon; vote: 14 to 1.
Aug. 6, 1982—Urged cut-off of economic aid to Israel if it refused to withdraw from its occupation of Lebanon; vote: 11 to 1, with 3 abstentions.
Aug. 2, 1983—Condemned continued Israeli settlements in occupied Palestine territories of West Bank and Gaza Strip, denouncing them as an obstacle to peace; vote: 13 to 1, with 1 abstention.
Sept. 6, 1984—Deplored Israel’s brutal massacre of Arabs in Lebanon and urged its withdrawal; vote: 14 to 1.
March 12, 1985—Condemned Israeli brutality in Southern Lebanon and denounced Israel’s “Iron Fist”� policy of repression; vote: 11 to 1, with 3 abstentions.
Sept. 13, 1985—Denounced Israel’s violation of human rights in the occupied territories; vote: 10 to 1, with 4 abstentions.
Jan. 17, 1986—Deplored Israel’s violence in Southern Lebanon; vote: 11 to 1, with 3 abstentions.
Jan. 30, 1986—Deplored Israel’s activities in occupied Arab East Jerusalem which threaten the sanctity of Muslim holy sites; vote: 13 to 1, with 1 abstention.
Feb. 6, 1986—Condemned Israel’s hijacking of a Libyan passenger airplane on Feb. 4; vote: 10 to 1, with 1 abstention.
Jan. 18, 1988—Deplored Israeli attacks against Lebanon and its measures and practices against the civilian population of Lebanon; vote: 13 to 1, with Britain abstaining.
Feb. 1, 1988—Called on Israel to abandon its policies against the Palestinian uprising that violate the rights of occupied Palestinians, abide by the Fourth Geneva Convention and formalize a leading role for the United Nations in future peace negotiations; vote: 14 to 1.
April 15, 1988—Urged Israel to accept back deported Palestinians, condemned Israel’s shooting of civilians, called on Israel to uphold the Fourth Geneva Convention and called for a peace settlement under U.N. auspices; vote: 14 to 1.
May 10, 1988—Condemned Israel’s May 2 incursion into Lebanon; vote: 14 to 1.
Dec. 14, 1988—Deplored Israel’s Dec. 9 commando raids on Lebanon; vote: 14 to 1.
Feb. 17, 1989—Deplored Israel’s repression of the Palestinian uprising and called on Israel to respect the human rights of the Palestinians; vote: 14 to 1.
June 9, 1989—Deplored Israel’s violation of the human rights of the Palestinians; vote: 14 to 1.
Nov. 7, 1989—Demanded Israel return property confiscated from Palestinians during a tax protest and allow a fact-finding mission to observe Israel’s crackdown on the Palestinian uprising; vote: 14 to 1.
May 31, 1990—Called for a fact-finding mission on abuses against Palestinians in Israeli-occupied lands; vote: 14 to 1.
May 17, 1995—Declared invalid Israel’s expropriation of land in East Jerusalem and in violation of Security Council resolutions and the Fourth Geneva convention; vote: 14 to 1.
March 7, 1997—Called on Israel to refrain from settlement activity and all other actions in the occupied territories; vote:14 to 1.
March 21, 1997—Demanded Israel cease construction of the settlement Har Homa (called Jabal Abu Ghneim by the Palestinians) in East Jerusalem and cease all other settlement activity in the occupied territories; vote: 13 to 1, with one abstention.
March 26, 2001—Called for the deployment of a U.N. observer force in the West Bank and Gaza; vote: 9 to 1, with 4 abstentions.
Dec. 14, 2001—Condemned all acts of terror, the use of excessive force and destruction of properties and encouraged establishment of a monitoring apparatus; vote: 12-1, with 2 abstentions.
Dec. 19, 2002—Expressed deep concern over Israel’s killing of U.N. employees and Israel’s destruction of the U.N. World Food Program warehouse in Beit Lahiya and demanded that Israel refrain from the excessive and disproportionate use of force in the occupied territories; vote: 12 to 1, with 2 abstentions.
Sept. 16, 2003—Reaffirmed the illegality of deportation of any Palestinian and expressed concern about the possible deportation of Yasser Arafat; vote: 11 to 1, with 3 abstentions.
Oct. 14, 2003—Raised concerns about Israel’s building of a securiy fence through the occupied West Bank; vote 10 to 1, with 4 abstentions.
March 25, 2004—Condemned Israel for killing Palestinian spiritual leader Sheikh Ahmed Yassin in a missile attack in Gaza; vote: 11 to 1, with 3 abstentions.
Oct. 5, 2004—Condemned Israel’s military incursion in Gaza, causing many civilian deaths and extensive damage to property; vote: 11 to 1, with 3 abstentions.

An Updated List of Vetoes Cast by the United States to Shield Israel from Criticism by the U.N. Security Council | WRMEA
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They sold thier vote a long long time ago.

The Insecurity Council.
 
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The donald has russophobia running wild in washington, when barac starts comparing putin to hussein putin had better find a more secure hole than hussein had. Hussein was accused of having wmds and it cost him his life at the end of a rope and iraqi citizens years of misery. Putin does have wmds so his situation becomes really precarious when barac draws a comparison twixt he and hussein that was lynched even though wmds were never found. I imagine putin saw the u.s. sponsored shock and awe show in iraq so I'd wager he is beefing up his counter punch punch. The u.s. talks peace but their actions belie their words which bods poorly for the u.s./rus tag team, u.s. wants to butcher assad whilst russia vies to shield him so I can't for the life of me see any success for this tag team.
https://sputniknews.com/politics/20160913/1045276461/obama-putin-hussein-poll-numbers.html
 
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Actually Gulf War I was the start of years of misery for the citizens of Iraq. The invasion of Kuwait was over slant drilling or did you not know that tid-bit.
 
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Yeah desert storm was the pretext but his death certificate was validated by drummed up wmd lies, hussein was a threat to the world so u.s. power was showcased with a live shock and awe video to thwart him. The exposed wmd lie resulted in massive blood flow and boundless misery yet bore no consequence for uk or u.s. hawks, on the contrary it emboldened them. Bottom line is putin best cover his butt as barac is suggesting he like assad is a threat to world calm, difficult for nations to embrace disarmament and reduce nuclear tools while hawks are free to roam.
 
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The US and Co only attack countries that are disarmed and defenseless.

https://sputniknews.com/middleeast/20160915/1045343484/iran-ansari-syria-ceasefire.html

Russian Military: U.S. Not Fulfilling' Syria Agreement — Naharnet
Russia on Thursday accused Washington of failing to meet its obligations under the Syria ceasefire agreement, while criticizing US officials for voicing skepticism over cooperation with Moscow.
Russian military spokesman Igor Konashenkov slammed the US for what he called "rhetorical fog" intended "to hide the fact that it is not fulfilling its part of the obligations."
In a statement, he defined the US role as "first and foremost to separate 'moderate opposition' groups from terrorists".
"As of the third day (of the truce), only the Syrian army is observing the regime of silence. At the same time, the 'moderate opposition' led by the US is increasing the amount of attacks on residential districts," Konashenkov said.
He insisted: "Russia has respected its obligations to fulfil the ceasefire regime in Syria from the first minute."
US officials have voiced scepticism that Russia will fulfil its part of the agreement struck last week between the two former Cold War adversaries after years of bad blood over Moscow's Ukraine and Syria policies.
Under the agreement, US and Russia said they will establish a "Joint Implementation Centre" to share targeting information for air strikes in Syria if the truce that went into effect on Monday holds for one week.
Several Pentagon officials have told AFP of their deep unease over the Syria truce, with one saying: "The timeframe is short, but there's a gulf of trust that's larger than the timeframe."

https://sputniknews.com/middleeast/20160915/1045337102/syria-ceasefire-militants.html

https://sputniknews.com/middleeast/20160915/1045331154/russia-syria-usa.html
 
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https://sputniknews.com/middleeast/20160916/1045389953/moderate-rebels-chase-us-commandos.html
While the United States has consistently backed what Washington refers to as "moderate" rebels in the Syrian conflict, video released Friday appears to show those same moderate fighters turning on American Special Forces.

On Friday, the Pentagon announced that dozens of US Special Operations Forces had been deployed to Syria to fight alongside the Turkish military and so-called moderate Syrian rebels. "At the request of the government of Turkey, US special operations forces are accompanying Turkish and vetted Syrian opposition forces as they continue to clear territory from ISIL [Daesh] in and around the area of the Syrian border near Jarabulus and Ar Rai," Pentagon spokesman Jeff Davis told reporters.
These joint ops appear to be off to a rocky start.
 
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The Syrian military said that aircraft of the US-led coalition targeted Syrian government forces near Deir ez-Zor airport, state media reported.

The attack resulted in casualties and destroyed Syrian army's equipment and "clearly paved the way" for Daesh terrorist group to advance and gain control over the position, the General Command said as quoted by SANA. Damascus called the US-led coalition's alleged attack a "serious and blatant aggression" against Syria and Syrian government army. The Syrian military added that it "constitutes conclusive evidence that the United States and its allies support ISIS [Daesh] and other terrorist organizations, stressing that this act reveals the falseness of their claims of fighting terrorism."

Read more: https://sputniknews.com/middleeast/20160917/1045414848/syria-us-led-coalition.html

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Washington has been reluctant to make its ceasefire deal with Russia on Syria public because this would turn the spotlight on those who are not complying, Russian President Vladimir Putin said Saturday.

BISHKEK (Sputnik) — Russia has been urging the United States to disclose the details of the deal on Syria, which came into force on Monday. It aims to end violence in Syria and allow for relief aid deliveries. "The only reason why they apparently don’t want to make it public is because the international community, as well as American and Russian public will immediately find out who is not abiding by the deal," Putin said in Bishkek, Kyrgyzstan.

Read more: https://sputniknews.com/politics/20160917/1045403109/putin-russia-syria.html
 
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every last dime of BILLIONS in aid illegal right there
from the countree that sank the USS Liberty

that's theft of billions
and that's just one country

Some god you got there...and an apartheid one at that
if he was real would you honestly need two hundred nukes to defend what you have stolen?
'cause I don't see a deed that proves they own that land
Perhaps because there isn't one
 
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