67% of Canadians favour screening newcomers for 'anti-Canadian values

PoliticalNick

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even c24 doesn't allow what this brainless wonder is suggesting.

They can deport my spouse along with me just because she is entitled to British citizenship. It doesn't matter she hasn't applied for it, she is entitled to it by virtue of the marriage. The simple fact they can deport a Canadian born person for any reason is enough to make you wonder if the bill should have been introduced, let alone passed.
 

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But i at least have 2000 years of Christian civilization, philosophy, theology, art, literature, science and culture backing me up.. you have something Justin Trudeau & Company and his occult, gnostic masters fabricated over the last 40 years and which is flushing our society down the toilet. Make your own choices.. have another toke.

That 2000 figure is certainly very debateable as is the associated religions origins. There are a few more credible candidates beside intangable Mr Christ.
 

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yeah and here in My town we have french only road signs
in Ontario
and we are paying for a french only high school that is used primarily by Francophones who live outside of town and don't have to pay for it

so there is something efed up about this whole language deal...
when the time comes it will be a ready made fracture point to justify the removal of all our rights
just like the last time

(and I'm frenglish)
 
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PoliticalNick

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No

Bilingualism concern the federal administration only. All other provinces are unilinguals except for New-Brunswick




nope

what about you ?

So you do not subscribe to the Charter or the Constitution? Canada as a whole has 2 official languages. If you are part of Canada then you have 2 official languages. I mean I'm just fine if you are not part of the confederation but I want our $10 billion back plus all the other transfer payments you received in the past.
 

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So you do not subscribe to the Charter or the Constitution? Canada as a whole has 2 official languages. If you are part of Canada then you have 2 official languages. I mean I'm just fine if you are not part of the confederation but I want our $10 billion back plus all the other transfer payments you received in the past.

You are free to cut the federal program. Go for it.

and.... for the rest.... WTF ?
 

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I think it might for people holding dual citizenship, but not someone born a Canadian

Do you think every holder of dual citizenship is not born in Canada? I have posed the question to the minister of Citizenship and Immigration who has the final say in any case under this legislation. They were quite clear that my Canadian born spouse could have her citizenship stripped and be deported even though she wasn't a dual citizen but because she was eligible to be. Not because she did anything but because I had been labelled a terrorist (I haven't but under c-51 my anti-government stance makes it possible).
 

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Do you think every holder of dual citizenship is not born in Canada? I have posed the question to the minister of Citizenship and Immigration who has the final say in any case under this legislation. They were quite clear that my Canadian born spouse could have her citizenship stripped and be deported even though she wasn't a dual citizen but because she was eligible to be. Not because she did anything but because I had been labelled a terrorist (I haven't but under c-51 my anti-government stance makes it possible).


bullshyte
 

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Wherever his spouse was from I assume. Doesn't matter really. They can revoke your citizenship and kick you out, where to is not their problem.



No, as long as you marry a foreign national that is involved with terrorism they can revoke your Canadian citizenship and send you packing. It goes against the UNUDHR but Herr Harper didn't care.

And where exactly would they send me packing? The other country would have to accept me, no?

That's the first point.

Secondly, why would they revoke my citizenship for a crime my wife would have committed?

No one knows everything, but that's pretty basic knowledge man.

They may be official values of a government controlled by Quebec but that does not necessarily make them values of the population.

And I presume the same government would create the 'Canadian-values' test. So I presume the questions would be dealing with the official values of the government, but how much I value Sichuan food over Cantonese which is an unofficial value of one Canadian. And the only 'values' that can be said to apply nationwide are the official ones of the government. All other values are unofficial and so will vary from person to person.

Dual citizenship is another thing that should be abolished.Either you are a Canadian or you are not.


What about a Canadian-born child born to a couple one parent of which is a Canadian citizen and the other not. Does that make him half Canadian?

Actually if you are part of Canada there are 2 official languages.


http://publications.gc.ca/collections/Collection/CH37-4-3-2002E.pdf

Are you saying quebec is not part of Canada?

Only at the Federal level. Nunavut has four official languages, Quebec one, and some provinces none but with English serving as the de facto language of government administration.

Do you think every holder of dual citizenship is not born in Canada? I have posed the question to the minister of Citizenship and Immigration who has the final say in any case under this legislation. They were quite clear that my Canadian born spouse could have her citizenship stripped and be deported even though she wasn't a dual citizen but because she was eligible to be. Not because she did anything but because I had been labelled a terrorist (I haven't but under c-51 my anti-government stance makes it possible).

U mad?

Firstly, no, the Minister does not have the final say. That's what tribunals are for.

Secondly, she could only be deported to a country of which she is a citizen. So if she has only Canadian citizenship, while they could put her in jail for life, they cannot deport her anywhere.

How old are you?

I hope you don't vote.

There is only one Province in Canada that is officially bilingual.

But the Federal government is officially bilingual nationwide.

It's certainly not a Quebec value. In fact Quebecers don't mind about bilingualism.

That's what I find sad. Most English Canadians support official bilingualism because they believe most French Canadians do.


So English Canadians support official bilingualism for the sake of national unity and then irritate French Canadians who don't want it, with official bilingualism pushing some in Quebec towards the sovereignty movement.

How's that for the two solitudes?

RIght.. That is why you have language police that fine businesses that advertise in English only. In more enlightened parts of the country like BC you can advertise in any language you like. With no worries about being fined.

You're confusing the private and public sectors. I disagree with Quebec's laws pertaining to the private sector. They're too draconian. But I wholeheartedly agree with it's policy of one official language of government administration.

In fact, if the Federal government in Quebec operated in French only, the government of Quebec was not constitutionally bound to provide education in English, and packaging and labelling in Quebec did not necessarily need to include English, Bill 101 would probably not have been so strict in the private sector. In a sense, imposing English on Quebec through the constitution and federal laws is what has pushed Quebec to introduce Bill 101.

You'll notice for example that French Canadians outside of Quebec often feel frustrated by Quebec's lack of support for them. For example, Quebec refuses to support that Ottawa become an officially bilingual city. Also, when French-Canadians outside of Quebec take the Federal government to court concerning their language rights in education, in one case Quebec had even testified against French-language rights outside of Quebec beyond the minimum that the constitution requires and even considers that to be too much.

So yes, most Quebecers are not in favour of French-language rights outside of Quebec. I don't understand why this is such a little-known fact outside of Quebec. I presume because media in the ROC usually present the vewpoint of ROC French-speakers and rarely present that of Quebecers. As a result, people in the ROC think French-Canadins outside of Quebec speak for all French Canadians.

Believe it or not, even French-Canadians outside of Quebec oppose official bilingualism. I'm a Quebecer now, but I opposed official bilingualism long before moving to Quebec and long before I'd foreseen that I'd move to Quebec.

So you don't mind if we make english the only official language?

In English Canada, absolutely. I think Queb would agree with me on that.

They can deport my spouse along with me just because she is entitled to British citizenship. It doesn't matter she hasn't applied for it, she is entitled to it by virtue of the marriage. The simple fact they can deport a Canadian born person for any reason is enough to make you wonder if the bill should have been introduced, let alone passed.

Now you're being absolutely stupid. No they can't deport a person for any reason.

'Hey, n!gger. I don't like for face, so I'll deport you.'

It doesn't work that way. They need to present a valid reason, and even a foreign national always reserves the right to challenge a decision and even appeal it.

Educate yourself a bit.

And again, why would they deport one person because his spouce committed a crime? This isn't North Korea.

I don't mind if we quit making equalization payments to Quebec until they decide they want to be Canadians.

Anf what is a Canadian to you?

Do you realise that if we define Canadian as someone who speaks English well, many indigenous Canadians and Deaf Canadians and most French Canadians are not Canadian? That means around 15% of Nunavut is also non-Canadian.

In otherwords, unless you're of British descent you're not Canadian.

by that definition, I'd rather not be Canadian myself. Way too colonialism a mindset.

So that would be no then. Apparently you do care about official bilingualism.

Are you stupid?

No. He said he supports unilingualism. English in Canada, French in Quebec.

Even from a tax perspective, forcing English on a population that does not know is would be extremely expensive to the economy. Do you pay taxes?
 

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I hope this story continues to gain traction and becomes a central part of the CPC platform because it would sink them for good.
 

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I hope this story continues to gain traction and becomes a central part of the CPC platform because it would sink them for good.

I hope it doesn't because it would legitimize bigotry in mainstream media and could give rise to another Trump in Canada.

Canada is far more prejudiced than you might realise. I'd like to see Micheal Chong rise up to become the leader but, as bilingual as he is, he doesn't know French so doesn't stand a chance unfortunately.
 

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I hope this story continues to gain traction and becomes a central part of the CPC platform because it would sink them for good.
Libs already poo-pooing Leitch's immigration proposal cuz they know it's a winner.

I hope it doesn't because it would legitimize bigotry in mainstream media and could give rise to another Trump in Canada.

Canada is far more prejudiced than you might realise. I'd like to see Micheal Chong rise up to become the leader but, as bilingual as he is, he doesn't know French so doesn't stand a chance unfortunately.
What is bigoted about asking people if they come to Canada they will obey its laws and assimilate into Canadian society. You Libs are nuts.
 
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Locutus

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most Canadians see how the progs have fukked us over with their arrogance.

thankfully this lib nonsense will be a short-lived experiment.
 

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My Canadian Values: Diversity, progressive, bilingualism, great writers, musicians, stability, free health care, freedom to practice religion, hockey, great food, marry who the hell you want or love, be polite and be well educated (Canada rates 7th in the world for best education system and Canada rates #2 in the world for having its population having tertiary education -- # 1 Russia-- Canadians students outperformed almost every country in math on the PISA and adults performed at the highest literacy proficiency, so yes please, screening is not a bad thing. I know my Canadian values as clearly as any Fu*&^ig British, American, European knows their, and yes I am different for being Canadian, but so are all other cultures.
 

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I hope it doesn't because it would legitimize bigotry in mainstream media and could give rise to another Trump in Canada.

Canada is far more prejudiced than you might realise. I'd like to see Micheal Chong rise up to become the leader but, as bilingual as he is, he doesn't know French so doesn't stand a chance unfortunately.

Don't worry.

The Walters and Locs of the world are facing their annihilation and the rest of us will get to dance on their graves.

This is just the final, bitter outcry before they are snuffed out forever.