$15 minimum wage could be a detriment!

JLM

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Actually in this analogy, Labour is the entire vehicle, better recognize, get woke, death to capitalism.


You might think of quitting while you're ahead. In some enterprises labour is very important but it is very seldom the entire vehicle (unless of course the business is comprised of moving sh*t from pile to another)


If you happen to think labour is really important you might notice that about 90% of it has been replaced by machines and computers in the past 100 years!
 
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HarperCons

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You might think of quitting while you're ahead. In some interprises labour is very important but it is very seldom the entire vehicle (unless of course the business is comprised of moving sh*t from pile to another)
doesn't seem like you're fully woke old man, but if you don't recognize lebour is the vehicle of all labour you're still dealing with the disease of class unconsciousness.
 

PoliticalNick

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this idiot is an enemy of the worker, as we can see by his desire to bootlick the bourgies.
If you are going to try to insult me then stop punching yourself in the face and learn a bit about me so you have the right ammunition.

I have spent the last 32 years working about 60 hours a week, often more, developing and honing skills you couldn't begin to learn if you tried. I have a university degree in commerce and several trade qualifications. For that commitment and effort I am rewarded with a nice income well in excess of 6 figures, that means over $100,000, in fact it is over $140,000 the last few years. My fiancee also works full time for a good salary that pushes our gross income to a little over $200k/yr. I have over the years invested in segregated funds and real estate and currently own the house we live in plus 5 rental properties in BC and AB and a 25 acre parcel of bare land most of which is paid for completely. I recently purchased a 48' schooner for cash which my fiancee and I will be sailing around the world starting in 2018 which is also when I will retire at age 51, she will be 48. I do not support mega-corps or mainstream political parties. I am against big, invasive controlling government, preach personal responsibility and accountability and despise places that use loopholes to treat their employees like sh^t. I also recognize there is a symbiotic relationship between employer and employee and both have to let the other make some money in order for both parties to be happy and continue to support each other.

Sorry, I lied and there is no ammunition and there really isn't anything you can say to insult me that means anything but now you know I am a working class stiff who is also well educated and a pissant, leech on society like you doesn't matter to me. So please go punch yourself in the face a bit more, you will eventually feel numb and I will get a good laugh as will many others on here.

Thanks for the fun and as Bugs Bunny would say about you.....What a Maroon!!!!:lol:
 

Angstrom

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Knowlage is power. If anyone can do you're job, expect to be easily replaced.
 

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You're means you are. The word you were looking for is "your". Knowlage is spelled "knowledge". Come on Angstrom if you're going to pretend to be intelligent learn to fukkin spell man.

People who can spell are a dime a dozen. I'm attacking a diffrent angle of the market :)
 

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This stupid fear mongering that businesses aren't going to hire people if they have to fork out an actual livable wage is hilarious, businesses need workers or they're screwed. They will hire because they absolutely rely on the labour - it's total fear mongering and stupid bootlickers like JLM lap it up to the detriment of the working class. This mentality should end, fight for better conditions.
 

JLM

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doesn't seem like you're fully woke old man, but if you don't recognize lebour is the vehicle of all labour you're still dealing with the disease of class unconsciousness.


"It's better to remain silent and appear a fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt". :) :) :)
 

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What the hell are you talking about you joke?

Corporate success is only because of the labour they hire is for less than they're worth (produce), not the higher ups who pretend they do something but are about as worthless as a calculus textbook in the hands of Walter.

It's not difficult to see labour is the result of all progress, hence destroy the parasitical bourgies, put the means of production in the hands of the actual producers, the workers.

Labour only has jobs because someone was willing to risk the capital necessary to build a plant, develop and market a product. without that labour would soon starve to death or be like you and collect welfare. Only there wouldn't be any money for welfare and the freeloaders would soon starve.
Did you know that we have underground mining equipment that no longer need operators? Got entire assembly lines that run 24/7 with out hundreds of $12/hr people demanding $35/hr.

You can thank unions for that.
 

PoliticalNick

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Labour only has jobs because someone was willing to risk the capital necessary to build a plant, develop and market a product. without that labour would soon starve to death or be like you and collect welfare. Only there wouldn't be any money for welfare and the freeloaders would soon starve.
Did you know that we have underground mining equipment that no longer need operators? Got entire assembly lines that run 24/7 with out hundreds of $12/hr people demanding $35/hr.

You can thank unions for that.

You are never going to convince guys like HC. He believes labour should get 99% of the pie for doing the manual grunt work. The guy who risks everything to actually provide the jobs should collect a welfare wage at best. :roll:
 

JLM

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Labour only has jobs because someone was willing to risk the capital necessary to build a plant, develop and market a product. without that labour would soon starve to death or be like you and collect welfare. Only there wouldn't be any money for welfare and the freeloaders would soon starve.
Did you know that we have underground mining equipment that no longer need operators? Got entire assembly lines that run 24/7 with out hundreds of $12/hr people demanding $35/hr.

You can thank unions for that.


Probably, most of what you said there, sailed right over his head! :) :) :)
 

DaSleeper

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What the hell are you talking about you joke?

Corporate success is only because of the labour they hire is for less than they're worth (produce), not the higher ups who pretend they do something but are about as worthless as a calculus textbook in the hands of Walter.

It's not difficult to see labour is the result of all progress, hence destroy the parasitical bourgies, put the means of production in the hands of the actual producers, the workers.
I'm certain that this will go over your stupid head......




Tax System explained in beer.






Suppose that every day, ten men go out for beer and the bill for all ten comes to $100.


If they paid their bill the way we pay our taxes, it would go something like this:


The first four men (the poorest) would pay nothing.


The fifth would pay $1.


The sixth would pay $3.


The seventh would pay $7.


The eighth would pay $12.


The ninth would pay $18.


The tenth man (the richest) would pay $59.






So, that's what they decided to do.






The ten men drank in the bar every day and seemed quite happy with the arrangement, until one day, the owner threw them a curve.
'Since you are all such good customers,' he said, 'I'm going to reduce the cost of your daily beer by $20.' Drinks for the ten now cost just $80.


The group still wanted to pay their bill the way we pay our taxes. So the first four men were unaffected. They would still drink for free. But what about the other six men? The paying customers?


How could they divide the $20 windfall so that everyone would get his 'fair share?'


They realized that $20 divided by six is $3.33. But if they subtracted that from everybody's share, then the fifth man and the sixth man would each end up being paid to drink his beer.


So, the bar owner suggested that it would be fair to reduce each man's bill by roughly the same amount, and he proceeded to work out the amounts each should pay.


And so the fifth man, like the first four, now paid nothing (100% savings)


The sixth now paid $2 instead of $3 (33% savings).


The seventh now pay $5 instead of $7 (28% savings).


The eighth now paid $9 instead of $12 (25% savings).


The ninth now paid $14 instead of $18 ( 22% savings).


The tenth now paid $49 instead of $59 (16% savings).






Each of the six was better off than before. And the first four continued to drink for free. But once outside the restaurant, the men began to compare their savings.


'I only got a dollar out of the $ 20,' declared the sixth man. He pointed to the tenth man,' but he got $10!'


'Yeah, that's right,' exclaimed the fifth man. 'I only saved a Dollar, too. It's unfair that he got ten times more than I!'


'That's true!!' shouted the seventh man. 'Why should he get $10 back when I got only two? The wealthy get all the breaks!'


'Wait a minute,' yelled the first four men in unison. 'We didn't get anything at all. The system exploits the poor!'


The nine men surrounded the tenth and beat him up.






The next night the tenth man didn't show up for drinks, so the nine sat down and had beers without him. But when it came time to pay the bill, they discovered something important. They didn't have enough money between all of them for even half of the bill!




And that, boys and girls, journalists and college professors, this is how our tax system works.


The people who pay the highest taxes get the most benefit from a tax reduction.


Tax them too much, attack them for being wealthy, and they just may not show up anymore.


In fact, they might start drinking overseas where the atmosphere is somewhat friendlier.






David R. Kamerschen, Ph.D.


Professor of Economics
 

JLM

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You are never going to convince guys like HC. He believes labour should get 99% of the pie for doing the manual grunt work. The guy who risks everything to actually provide the jobs should collect a welfare wage at best. :roll:


Would you expect anything different from that level of mentality?
 

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A $15 minimum wage will not bankrupt businesses. It will not deter hiring. It will simply drive up the prices of the goods and services to the a customers. In actual real terms, the buying power of the minimum wage earner will remain roughly the same once the prices and wages reach equilibrium again.
 

JLM

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A $15 minimum wage will not bankrupt businesses. It will not deter hiring. It will simply drive up the prices of the goods and services to the a customers. In actual real terms, the buying power of the minimum wage earner will remain roughly the same once the prices and wages reach equilibrium again.


So it's kind of a useless exercise, same as the past 60 years. The poor are just as poor today if not worse than they were before!
 

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it's nonsense. late stage capitalism and bad math. baby boomers ruined the world along with capitalism.
 

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15$ a hour won't solve the problem it cost 112 000$ a year to have a stable sustainable household to live at today's standards with children.

As long as wages are low, and people op out of having kids due to the high level of financial success needed to be achieved, our economy is dead in the water.

Minimum wage is not the problem. High prices of housing is really what's fu€king the whole thing up.