Ontario PC Party goes back to Stone Age

damngrumpy

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I was always of the opinion parents were the best teachers for this sort of stuff.
Over the years i realize that may not be the case. Parents just pass on the old
worn out prejudices of the past and education evolves to help bring progress
forward over time. It is the same reason electing judges is not so good real
justice not not happen when it bends to and electorate
 

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Proving once again, all conservative parties are shackled by social conservativism.


Ontario PC leader says he would scrap Liberal changes to sex-ed curriculum

Progressive Conservative Leader Patrick Brown is promising to scrap the Liberals' sex-ed curriculum if his party forms government after the 2018 election.

In a letter distributed this week — with days to go before a byelection in the east Toronto riding of Scarborough-Rouge River – Brown wrote that "a PC government would scrap the controversial changes to sex-ed introduced by Premier (Kathleen) Wynne and develop a new curriculum after thoughtful and full consultation with parents."

The curriculum was updated last year, for the first time since 1998, to include same-sex relationships, and the dangers of online bullying and sexting.

But parts of the curriculum were controversial for some parents, who complained that the government should have consulted them more. Other were angered by mentions of same-sex relationships, gender identity and masturbation.

The changes prompted some parents to protest and even pull their children from public school, saying the new program is not appropriate for school-aged children and does not align with their values.

Ontario PC leader says he would scrap Liberal changes to sex-ed curriculum - Toronto - CBC News

There is a difference between education, and the promotion of "transgender" mental disorders, and the grooming of children.

Ex-Ontario deputy minister claimed to have had sex with his own daughters in online chats, court hears | National Post

That's Deputy Minister of Education, btw.

Yeah, we're supposed to trust this guy's program with the education of our children in sexual matters.

Get real.

Grow a ****ing brain.
 

Machjo

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The present curriculum is not even scientific.

For example, it teaches that masturbation OS normal and not harmful.

Some studies have shown that compulsive masturbatoon can be indicative of trauma even in children as young as twelve and can be indicative of the early onset of escalative compulsive sexual behaviour (aka sex addiction).

We cannot overgeneralise, and it may the case that for many, masturbation is normal and not harmful. But to teach it as a universal scientific fact could cause some children to fail to assess themselves correctly and do overlook signs of unhealthy sexual behaviour.

As far as I can tell, the curriculum teaches nothing about compulsive sexual behaviour.
 

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Good to see that the Ontario PCs have found the magic formula to get themselves elected. They are riding the crest of that Sex-Ed wave and all of the people of Ontario will BEG them to take power and save their children from smut. 1957 should prove to be a good year for the Tories now that they've found out what Ontarians REALLY want and need!
 

PoliticalNick

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The present curriculum is not even scientific.

For example, it teaches that masturbation OS normal and not harmful.

Some studies have shown that compulsive masturbatoon can be indicative of trauma even in children as young as twelve and can be indicative of the early onset of escalative compulsive sexual behaviour (aka sex addiction).

We cannot overgeneralise, and it may the case that for many, masturbation is normal and not harmful. But to teach it as a universal scientific fact could cause some children to fail to assess themselves correctly and do overlook signs of unhealthy sexual behaviour.

As far as I can tell, the curriculum teaches nothing about compulsive sexual behaviour.

Masturbation is normal. You should try it sometime.
 

PoliticalNick

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Good to see that the Ontario PCs have found the magic formula to get themselves elected. They are riding the crest of that Sex-Ed wave and all of the people of Ontario will BEG them to take power and save their children from smut. 1957 should prove to be a good year for the Tories now that they've found out what Ontarians REALLY want and need!

Contrary to what the media portrays the majority of Canadians don't agree with the whole gender-bender liberal programs and don't want their children to have to deal with it. As usual there is a vocal minority pushing their agenda by political shaming and claims of discrimination.

No loping your mule is not normal. If it were you would not hide when you choke the chicken sir. What sense of dignity do you gain from pounding your pud ?

Dignity? It's about tension release and satisfaction. Anyone who says they haven't slammed the salami or flicked the bean is a g*ddamn liar.
 

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Contrary to what the media portrays the majority of Canadians don't agree with the whole gender-bender liberal programs and don't want their children to have to deal with it. As usual there is a vocal minority pushing their agenda by political shaming and claims of discrimination.



Dignity? It's about tension release and satisfaction. Anyone who says they haven't slammed the salami or flicked the bean is a g*ddamn liar.

Prove that everyone has done it.

And as for the matter of "tension release,"it sounds like you're using it as a drug. I've read up on the subject of various addictions, both chemical (e.g. opium, alcohol, nicotine) and process (e.g. gambling, gaming, sex, eating). On the matter of sex specifically, orgasm releases dopamine, a hormone that affects mood.

If you're masturbating for the sake of "tension release," then you're essentially describing sex addiction. Sex for enjoyment is one thing, but when it's compulsive or to modify your mood, that's a sign of addiciton. Ergo, it's not healthy.

Worse yet, research shows that sex addiction is escalative just like drug addiction. Once you become habituated for the dopamine fix of masturbation, there is always the risk of turning to pornography, paid sex, sexual assault, BDSM, or other means of trying to enhance the dopamine rush.

What peopel don't realise is that the human brain is a chemcial factory that can be manipulated by one's behaviour. Why do you think gambling can be so addictive? Unlealthy sexual behaviour falls in the same category.

Yet I'm not sure that the Ontario curriculum teaches anything about sex addiction or the risks of compulsive masturbation.
 

PoliticalNick

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Prove that everyone has done it.

And as for the matter of "tension release,"it sounds like you're using it as a drug. I've read up on the subject of various addictions, both chemical (e.g. opium, alcohol, nicotine) and process (e.g. gambling, gaming, sex, eating). On the matter of sex specifically, orgasm releases dopamine, a hormone that affects mood.

If you're masturbating for the sake of "tension release," then you're essentially describing sex addiction. Sex for enjoyment is one thing, but when it's compulsive or to modify your mood, that's a sign of addiciton. Ergo, it's not healthy.

Worse yet, research shows that sex addiction is escalative just like drug addiction. Once you become habituated for the dopamine fix of masturbation, there is always the risk of turning to pornography, paid sex, sexual assault, BDSM, or other means of trying to enhance the dopamine rush.

What peopel don't realise is that the human brain is a chemcial factory that can be manipulated by one's behaviour. Why do you think gambling can be so addictive? Unlealthy sexual behaviour falls in the same category.

Yet I'm not sure that the Ontario curriculum teaches anything about sex addiction or the risks of compulsive masturbation.
I'm sorry your ashamed of your masturbation and sexual desires. I expect it has a very negative effect on your well-being. Sexual repression can be seriously harmful both physically and mentally.
 

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I'm sorry your ashamed of your masturbation and sexual desires. I expect it has a very negative effect on your well-being. Sexual repression can be seriously harmful both physically and mentally.
No sexual repression here. Used to have wet dreams when I was younger, and now I have to conserve my stamina for my wife.
 

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I don't agree that removing it would be dangerous but it wouldn't be helpful but Brown is suddenly shy on the subject....


There is also some confusion about exactly what Brown is proposing.

Despite promising to scrap the curriculum in the letter that went out a few days ago, on Saturday he told CBC News that it was "a form letter that was used in a by-election. What I'm committed to doing is making sure that in the next curriculum, that we would engage parents and that parents would be given a voice."

Kathleen Wynne says scrapping Ontario's sex-ed curriculum 'very, very dangerous' - Toronto - CBC News


Progressive Conservative Leader Patrick Brown is making a hard-right turn, promising to scrap Ontario’s Liberal government’s new sexual-education curriculum on the eve of a close-fought Toronto by-election.

In a letter addressed “Dear Parents” and dated this week, Mr. Brown pledged to kill the curriculum.

“I believe parents are the primary educators of their children. When it comes to sexual health education, parents should have a say on how much their children are taught, and at what age,” Mr. Brown writes in the letter, a copy of which was obtained by The Globe and Mail on Friday. “Upon being elected, a PC government would scrap the ‎controversial changes to sex-ed introduced by Premier Kathleen Wynne.”

Ontario PC leader Patrick Brown promises to scrap sex-ed curriculum - The Globe and Mail








 
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mentalfloss

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I was right.

Harper learned last election that we're not as dumb as Americans.

We don't bow to social conservativism.
 

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Sex ed is important, pregnancy, diseases and inappropriate touching need to be understood, the joys of masturbation is not sex ed rather an exercise in mechanics and role playing is more an intro into queer sex than anything else. However we hafta be real, whom knows more of a family dynamic parents or queens park bureaucrats?
 

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What the hell did it have to do with racism?

What do sexual act have to do with race unless we're talking about racial exogamy?

In fact, I'm in a happy racially exogamous marriage. However, I'm sure you can understand how dome might take offence at a course teaching that racial exogamy is normal or abnormal. Stick to science, which is that we are all one species and so exogamous couples can procreate. What people think of such marriages and their offspring should be kept out of the sex ed course.

Now if in a separate religious education course you want to teach how all of tof the world's great religions teach that mankind is one, by all means, but don't impose it on students. It just causes backlash.

The present curriculum teaches that masturbation is normal. Again, stick to the science, that yes a hand can manipulate genitalia to orgasm. But whether it is normal or not should be left to the students to decide.

On that front, scientific research on sex addiction could be interesting.

Again, the curriculum teaches that homosexuality is normal.

Again, if you want to teach the scientific facts on the matter that some people are sexually attracted to the same sex, by all means. But it's not up to the school to decide what is normal. It should not even teach that heterosexuality is normal. It's not the teacher's place in a sex ed class.

In civic education, the teacher could teach what the law says about homosexuality. In religious education classes, it could teach what different religions teach on the subject. But it's not up to the teacher to dictate what is normal or not normal.

That said, I would rather my child learn the formal dictionary word for different body parts than some children's euphemism.

But again, none of this has anything to do with race.
 

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Kids are so limited on their access to information
How could we ever think of exposing children as something we can control
Long gone are the baby kitten sexEd educational videos
Where girls and boys were separated
Those parents who feel this is not for their children can enroll elsewhere
The choices are there