One big idea is missing in Physics.

[socratus]

One big idea is missing in Physics.
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“ . . . . . at least one big idea is missing.
How do we find that missing idea? “
/ Book: “ The trouble with Physics” By Lee Smolin, page 308 /

What is “the big missing idea ” ?
The big missing idea in Physics is the endless infinite void – the Vacuum,
the Zero Vacuum: T=0K.

When the next revolution rocks physics,
chances are it will be about nothing—the vacuum,
that endless infinite void.
Nothingness of Space Could Illuminate the Theory of Everything | DiscoverMagazine.com
==============…

“ The problem of the exact description of vacuum, in my opinion,
is the basic problem now before physics. Really, if you can’t correctly
describe the vacuum, how it is possible to expect a correct description
of something more complex? “
/ Paul Dirac /
#
"Vacuum -- the very name suggests emptiness and nothingness –
is actually a realm rife with potentiality, courtesy of the laws
of quantum electrodynamics (QED). According to QED,
additional, albeit virtual, particles can be created in the vacuum,
allowing light-light interactions."
http://www.aip.org/pnu/2006/768.html
#
“The most fundamental question facing 21st century physics will be:
What is the vacuum? As quantum mechanics teaches us, with
its zero point energy this vacuum is not empty and the word
vacuum is a gross misnomer!”
/ Prof. Friedwardt Winterberg /
#
"Now we know that the vacuum can have all sorts of wonderful effects
over an enormous range of scales, from the microscopic to the cosmic,"
said Peter Milonni
from the Los Alamos National Laboratory in New Mexico.
#
etc . . . . .
===============…

 

[socratus]

Sorry, it seems that the “big idea” is not missing in Physics,
it has been banned from Physics.
=.
‘ It is true . . . there is such a thing as absolute zero; we cannot
reach temperatures below absolute zero not because we are not
sufficiently clever but because temperatures below absolute zero
simple have no meaning.’
/ Book : ‘Dreams of a final theory’ . Page 138.
By Steven Weinberg. The Nobel Prize in Physics 1979 /

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[socratus]

Sorry, it seems that the “big idea” is not missing in Physics,
it has been banned from Physics.
=.
‘ It is true . . . there is such a thing as absolute zero; we cannot
reach temperatures below absolute zero not because we are not
sufficiently clever but because temperatures below absolute zero
simple have no meaning.’
/ Book : ‘Dreams of a final theory’ . Page 138.
By Steven Weinberg. The Nobel Prize in Physics 1979 /

====…

But . . . .
S. Weinberg wrote another book: “The First Three Minutes”
(A Modern View of the Origin of the Universe . . . after big bang)
So, he know very well that in 1973 the temperature of the Universe
as whole was 2,7K and in the time “X” it will come to absolute zero.
But if the “temperatures below absolute zero simple have no meaning”
then . . . “ Big Bang” also doesn’t have meaning.
Someone must decide: “Where is logic in our Alice's Wonderland?”
===============…

 

[socratus]

Brief characteristic of Vacuum: T=0K.
==================================
1.
It was, it is, it will be forever an infinite /eternal continuum T=0K.
The Material World began its existence and evolution from T=0K.
2.
Today physicists think that the Universe as whole has temperature:
T= 2,7K. They know very well that parameter T=2,7K is not constant.
It is temporal and goes down and in the future it will come to T= 0K.
But they don’t know what to do with infinite T=0K and therefore
banned T=0K from logical thought.
3.
T=0K is not empty / void infinite continuum.
The void/vacuum T=0K gives birth to an infinite numbers of
virtual particles (antiparticles, dark matter , dark energy and “zoo”
of elementary particles) and they exist in this Kingdom of Vacuum.
4.
Question:
Which geometrical form can have virtual particles (antiparticles,
dark matter , dark energy and “zoo” of elementary particles)
in the absolute reference frame T= 0K ?

The answer is: “They must be flat particles.”
Why?
Because absolute endless infinite void - vacuum T=0K obeys the
laws of “Ideal Gas” and therefore . . . according to Charle’s law
(and the consequence of the third law of thermodynamics) as the
thermodynamic temperature of a system approaches absolute zero
the volume of particles approach zero too.
It means the particles at T=0K must have flat forms.
The most ideal flat geometrical form is form of circle: pi= c /d =3,14 . . . .
These circle –particles are without thickness. It means, we cannot reach
the T=0K and we cannot reach the density of these vacuum-particles.
We cannot observe vacuum - particles with tools, but thanks to
mathematics (physical-mathematical laws) we can understand their
real geometrical forms.
#
The “strings particles” is also flat particles and don’t have thickness.
But to be “string” is needed forces in two different sides.
Without forces the “string” will take form of circle.
And in circle all forces in all different directions are equal and
therefore the circle–particle is in an ideal equilibrium (potential) state.
Such equilibrium-potential state can be changed easily with a
thin/weak quantum force.
Once again.
Circle-particle says to string-particles: “I am, circle, the real quantum
particle and my existence is confirmed by physical-mathematical laws
and you, string, don’t have such laws, such confirmation. You are only
private invention of theoretical thought.”
5.
When very small changes appear in absolute void of “Ideal Gas”
( T=0K ) something was happened. Pressures, densities,
temperatures were changed and can be observed.
(Casimir effect, vacuum polarization, Lamb shift, . . ..etc.)
These “very small changes” are Quantum changes.
These very small Quantum changes ( h and h*bar) make great
difference in the Kingdom of Absolute Vacuum and Nature.
====. . .
Best wishes.
Israel Sadovnik. Socratus.
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[55Mercury]

hi Izzy, long time no quantum! nice to see you boggling minds again! lol

The “strings particles” is also flat particles and don’t have thickness.
But to be “string” is needed forces in two different sides.
Without forces the “string” will take form of circle.
And in circle all forces in all different directions are equal and
therefore the circle–particle is in an ideal equilibrium (potential) state.

what comes around goes around, eh?
(and everyone knows π r round)
;?)

Vacuum -- the very name suggests emptiness and nothingness –
is actually a realm rife with potentiality, courtesy of the laws
of quantum electrodynamics (QED)

Interesting that the acronym matches the Latin phrase quod erat demonstrandum, meaning "which is what had to be proven". Does anyone suppose that's just a coincidence, or is it more likely that those who contemplate such matters are just fvcking with our heads? lol

Sorry, it seems that the “big idea” is not missing in Physics,
it has been banned from Physics.
=.
‘ It is true . . . there is such a thing as absolute zero; we cannot
reach temperatures below absolute zero not because we are not
sufficiently clever but because temperatures below absolute zero
simple have no meaning.’
/ Book : ‘Dreams of a final theory’ . Page 138.
By Steven Weinberg. The Nobel Prize in Physics 1979

notwithstanding that the term 'absolute' implies it's as low as it can go, it may be worth considering these experts really aren't sufficiently intelligent enough to find a meaning on the negative side of 0° K

but I think this whole exercise in mental masturbation is about as fruitful as trying to determine the last decimal place of π.
I should think one might get tired of it somewhere beyond the billionth decimal place heh heh

perhaps Weinberg is merely conceding that lower temperatures are meaningless in the sense that they'll permit no life to exist to contemplate them, as I similarly suggested in post #30 of one of your old threads, and that they are therefore quite moot:

http://forums.canadiancontent.net/s...oes-socratus-write-unintelligent-garbage.html

post #29

Time , Particles and Consciousness.
=.
We have biological consciousness and
we have consciousness on the quantum level

What is connection between biological consciousness
and the consciousness on the quantum level ?

What is role of time in this connection between biological
consciousness and the consciousness on the quantum level ?

What is happened with time in this connection ?
What can happen with time in this connection ?
1
Can we speak about biological and quantum consciousness
without particles (cells and em waves) ?
The answer is 'no'.
2
Can we talk about time without particles?
a)
According to Newton the answer is
'yes, we can talk about time without particles'
b)
According to Einstein the answer is
'no, without particles we cannot talk about time'

Paradox or puzzle ?
3
Does biological consciousness exist only in time?
Does consciousness on the quantum level exist only in time?
!!??
===..
socratus

Post #30

biological consciousness implies life. life regardless of duration exists from time A to time B. if time stands still, life stands still, biological consciousness stands still. conclusion? biological consciousness cannot exist without time.



I believe Newton is correct, that time can exist without particles (necessary for biology) though Einstein is also right in the context that if there is nothing around(no life)(life) to detect it(time) then what is it, really? a second would equal eternity, and eternity would equal a second. perhaps this is the pressing point of life's beginning?



I wonder how God was doing in that eternal second before life evolved from time? God equals the total energy of the universe. Before matter there was only energy without time (the eternal second). When God transformed Itself in part to matter (the big bang?) the stage was set for time and life to progress/evolve (not but a second ago)



The Holy Trinity: Energy/Time/Life



lol stupid fvcking edit feature Last edited by 55Mercury; Sep 15th, 2012 at 04:57 AM..Reason: God made me do it

But . . . . S. Weinberg wrote another book: “The First Three Minutes” (A Modern View of the Origin of the Universe . . . after big bang) So, he know very well that in 1973 the temperature of the Universe as whole was 2,7K and in the time “X” it will come to absolute zero. But if the “temperatures below absolute zero simple have no meaning” then . . . “ Big Bang” also doesn’t have meaning. Someone must decide: “Where is logic in our Alice's Wonderland?”

Well if my eternal second analogy (pre-big-bang) could still apply, I'd say those first 3 minutes could be 30 million years - now extrapolate that to God's 6 days of genisis. where is the logic? I've decided Gracie's dormouse is right - feed your head: these deep thinkers will need to eat a sh!tload more of those polka dot mushrooms to firm up their thinking. lol

 

[55Mercury]

Post #30

biological consciousness implies life.
life regardless of duration exists from time A to time B.
if time stands still, life stands still, biological consciousness stands still.
conclusion? biological consciousness cannot exist without time.

 

[55Mercury]

**** remove this fu<king edit bug!

 

[55Mercury]

ffs......................
*throws arms up in the air*


underfvckingbelievalbe!

 

[socratus]

Does Socratus write an unintelligent garbage?
====.

@55Mercury

If idea was banned then, of course, all followers will be banned too.
===.

 

[socratus]

Not standard model of physics.
==..
In the study of particle physics, the most powerful tool is
the accelerator. Two most important things need for accelerator:
high energy and deep vacuum.
The higher the energy and the deeper the vacuum levels that
can be reached – and the tinier the structures that can be explored.
#
The picture of modern particle physics is saddled with Standard Model.
The Standard Model embraces a total of 18 particles.
Thanks to accelerators more than 20 Nobel Prizes have been awarded
to scientists who contributed to the Standard Model.
====…
a)
If the accelerator is model of Nature then Nature itself must have
infinite high energy and the deepest vacuum level. Then there isn’t
place for the hot (!) singular point as beginning of existence.
b)
Temperature requires separation and movement of particles.
A singularity is defined as to have no separation, no movement.
Without movement there isn’t temperature.
c)
The high density of singular point is equal to the singular point of deep
vacuum, therefor it is possible that nature started from singular point of
vacuum, it means from singular quantum particle in the point of vacuum.
d)
The deepest vacuum level in Nature is the cosmic vacuum: T=0K.
This deepest vacuum (T=0K) is itself some kind of infinite energy.
This infinite energy gives birth to “virtual particles”: E=Mc^2.
These virtual particles” was called “dark matter and dark energy”.
“Dark masses and energy” of these “virtual particles” are more
than 90% in the nature and they created a few % of visual matter
in Nature.
============…

 

[petros]

Is the universe just a cavitation? Nature abhors a vaccum and the collapse is more energetic than the expansion.

I'm glad it's in slow motion or I'd miss it.

 

[Angstrom]

One big idea is missing in Physics.
===…
“ . . . . . at least one big idea is missing.
How do we find that missing idea? “
/ Book: “ The trouble with Physics” By Lee Smolin, page 308 /

What is “the big missing idea ” ?
The big missing idea in Physics is the endless infinite void – the Vacuum,
the Zero Vacuum: T=0K.

When the next revolution rocks physics,
chances are it will be about nothing—the vacuum,
that endless infinite void.
Nothingness of Space Could Illuminate the Theory of Everything | DiscoverMagazine.com
==============…

“ The problem of the exact description of vacuum, in my opinion,
is the basic problem now before physics. Really, if you can’t correctly
describe the vacuum, how it is possible to expect a correct description
of something more complex? “
/ Paul Dirac /
#
"Vacuum -- the very name suggests emptiness and nothingness –
is actually a realm rife with potentiality, courtesy of the laws
of quantum electrodynamics (QED). According to QED,
additional, albeit virtual, particles can be created in the vacuum,
allowing light-light interactions."
http://www.aip.org/pnu/2006/768.html
#
“The most fundamental question facing 21st century physics will be:
What is the vacuum? As quantum mechanics teaches us, with
its zero point energy this vacuum is not empty and the word
vacuum is a gross misnomer!”
/ Prof. Friedwardt Winterberg /
#
"Now we know that the vacuum can have all sorts of wonderful effects
over an enormous range of scales, from the microscopic to the cosmic,"
said Peter Milonni
from the Los Alamos National Laboratory in New Mexico.
#
etc . . . . .
===============…

The whole is more then the sum of its parts.

 

[socratus]

Not standard model of physics.
==..
In the study of particle physics, the most powerful tool is
the accelerator. Two most important things need for accelerator:
high energy and deep vacuum.
The higher the energy and the deeper the vacuum levels that
can be reached – and the tinier the structures that can be explored.
#
The picture of modern particle physics is saddled with Standard Model.
The Standard Model embraces a total of 18 particles.
Thanks to accelerators more than 20 Nobel Prizes have been awarded
to scientists who contributed to the Standard Model.
====…
a)
If the accelerator is model of Nature then Nature itself must have
infinite high energy and the deepest vacuum level. Then there isn’t
place for the hot (!) singular point as beginning of existence.
b)
Temperature requires separation and movement of particles.
A singularity is defined as to have no separation, no movement.
Without movement there isn’t temperature.
c)
The high density of singular point is equal to the singular point of deep
vacuum, therefor it is possible that nature started from singular point of
vacuum, it means from singular quantum particle in the point of vacuum.
d)
The deepest vacuum level in Nature is the cosmic vacuum: T=0K.
This deepest vacuum (T=0K) is itself some kind of infinite energy.
This infinite energy gives birth to “virtual particles”: E=Mc^2.
These virtual particles” was called “dark matter and dark energy”.
“Dark masses and energy” of these “virtual particles” are more
than 90% in the nature and they created a few % of visual matter
in Nature.
============…

Does Socratus write an unintelligent garbage?
http://forums.canadiancontent.net/s...oes-socratus-write-unintelligent-garbage.html

 

[Curious Cdn]

One big idea is missing in Physics.









God.

 

[socratus]

If the accelerator (for example LHC) is model of the Universe,
doesn’t it mean that the Universe as a whole must have
infinite energy and the deepest vacuum T = 0K?
===.

 

[socratus]

One Sisyphus project in modern Physics.
=====…
Scientists try to unify four fundamental forces:
electromagnetic, strong, weak and gravity.
a)
In 1979 the Nobel Prize was awarded to physicists who
merged electromagnetic and the weak nuclear forces in a single
framework: electroweak theory.
b)
Uniting the strong force with the electroweak picture has not been easy.
However, many physicists believe that at very high energies, the
electroweak and the strong forces would behave as one.
That unification is known as the search for a “grand unified theory”
c)
The theory that may finally include all four fundamental forces as one
(electromagnetic, strong, weak and gravity) is known as the search
for a “theory of everything”.
============…
My opinion.
So, on a large macro cosmic scale scientists gathered all masses and
energies into “ singular point” and on a micro scale this picture repeat
itself when scientists try to merge all four forces at very high
energies as one.
I call this scientific plan to understand micro world as a “Sisyphus project”.
Why?
Because behavior of particles at very high energies was explained
by Paul Dirac in 1928. According to Dirac at a “sea of vacuum”
quantum particles (forces) will be changed into virtual particles
with negative energy / mass: -E= Mc^2. (!)
This “sea of vacuum” is infinite continuum and it is some kind of
infinite energy and it is full with infinite numbers of particles: –E=Mc^2.
From these Dirac’s negative particles the creation and evolution of
existence was started. From Dirac’s negative energy / mass -E= Mc^2
“the theory of everything” begins its way.
====…
Best wishes.
Israel Sadovnik Socratus.
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[socratus]

You can test and understand scientific plan to unify all four forces
(electromagnetic, strong, weak and gravity) at very high energies
into one singular force in your home conditions:
a) take four eggs ,
b) break them,
c) make omelet with homogeneous structure,
d) try to understand, what chicken is.

Good appetite.
And remember, in our eggs – our forces (more than four).
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[MHz]

Great way to pass the time over the first cup of coffee.

Whatever we consider the vacuum to be at the present it was lower before in the finite universe than it was in the past and as time progresses it will become greater as galaxies implode and the distances between them become greater. The best 'vacuum' at the moment is the 'space' that the universe is expanding into. Since that will end up will all galaxies collapsed and the distances betweem them at it's greatest that would more of a vacuum as long as that trend continued.

As the universe expands the reforming of stars from material from other galaxies will not happen so the number of visible stars will decrease until there are no points of light that can be seen. Light is heat so all the visible light amounts to a certain amount of heat that is added to the temperature of the universe. When no stars are shedding light then they no longer shed heat (for the most part) and that would mean the universe is getting colder at least until that event is completed.

One sugar or two?

d) try to understand, what chicken is.

Pissed is what she is as you just ate her children after torturing them with fire.

 

[darkbeaver]

The Nobel price is surrendering reason and Cern is a pile of scrap metal.

 

[Ludlow]

Microwave ovens are destroying the world and ruining good food.