Canada to implement national carbon price

captain morgan

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Got any proof other than the gvt of BC website?

Maybe greenpeace?... Forest Ethics.. The IPCC?.. Hell, you can easily get proof from East Anglia University for the cost of a small donation

So, let's see your concrete evidence (the BC gvt notwithstanding)

I've posted it 3 or 4 times on this forum already.

You do the work now.

Put your money where your mouth is Flushy
 

petros

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He hasn't posted squat and he knows it.

I'm going to tank up in Blaine WA later tonight. I hope the line ups aren't too long.
50 cents a litre cheaper is quite nice and I still get to produce 15.2oz of CO2 per mile regardless of which side of the border I burn it in.
 

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Recessions also reduce carbon emissions. So does a tax structure that encourages industry to modernize, which can be done with out screwing consumers.
 

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The carbon fraud will never get of the ground the economic fraud will take it down with a wide range of other daft plans.

America Needs A Good, Old-Fashioned Economic Depression | Zero Hedge
Submitted by Jay Kawatsky via The National Interest,

Artificial measures to stave off a downturn will only make it much worse.
Describing what he called the “crack-up boom”, Ludwig von Mises, the great Austrian economist, said:
The boom cannot continue indefinitely. There are two alternatives. Either the banks continue the credit expansion without restriction and thus cause constantly mounting price increases and an ever-growing orgy of speculation – which, as in all other cases of unlimited inflation, ends in a “crack-up boom” and in a collapse of the money and credit system.

Or the banks stop before this point is reached, voluntarily renounce further credit expansion, and thus bring about the crisis. The depression follows in both instances. (emphasis added)
Although it would be the wiser policy, there is no evidence that the world’s central bankers have the wisdom, either individually or collectively, to select the second alternative. More specifically, they lack “the courage to act” (as Ben Bernanke’s recent, self-congratulatory memoir was so ironically titled); they and their political, big finance and big business cronies are afraid to swallow the “d-pill”, the economic medicine named “depression”.
A good, old-fashioned, pre-1929 depression (like the short-lived, eleven-month depression in 1920-1921, before the days of “modern” central banking and “enlightened” Keynesian intervention “cures”) is the only tonic that can clear out the malinvestment built up since the beginning of the fiat money era. That era began in August of 1971. That is when Richard Nixon, informed that U.S. gold reserves were precipitously declining as a result of President Johnson’s March 1968 action to reduce the gold reserve ratio from 25 percent to zero, “temporarily” suspended the convertibility of the U.S. Dollar into gold. That “temporary” measure has been in effect for forty-five years.


The crash is already unfolding, you can forget the carbon tax for ever.

No one will give a damn about CO2.

Recessions also reduce carbon emissions. So does a tax structure that encourages industry to modernize, which can be done with out screwing consumers.

We've been in recession for mutiple decades already, the next decade or two will be a god awful depression.
 

petros

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Amazingly enough it is true. Most of the heavy industry left town.

Pulp mill closures alone would have dropped emissions since 08.

Then tack on sawmill closures and all their gas fired driers.

Then add mandatory gas milage targets on new vehicles and voila. Taxes reduced emissions.
 

mentalfloss

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BC is doing great.

And soon Ontario and Alberta will be too.

Shame about Saskatchewan and it's budget deficit though.

One would think with all that money each person makes, they could easily have a balanced budget.


Such is the way with conbot governments.
 

petros

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Phrksville is over I think. Seen a bunch of pictures in the local rag.



That depends on where you look. Outside of the lower mainland it is not so good. And even there it is largely building houses, not industry.

Damn, It was probably raining.

Pick me up at the ferry, let's go for beer.

BC is doing great.

And soon Ontario and Alberta will be too.

Shame about Saskatchewan and it's budget deficit though.

One would think with all that money each person makes, they could easily have a balanced budget.


Such is the way with conbot governments.

How soon will ON make up its 40% lag?
 

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BC is doing great.

And soon Ontario and Alberta will be too.

Shame about Saskatchewan and it's budget deficit though.

One would think with all that money each person makes, they could easily have a balanced budget.


Such is the way with conbot governments.

Both Alberta and Ontario will require a change of government to do well.