Capitalism will save this world

Angstrom

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I just told you that I will. I keep asking you to provide an argument, but you won't. Now I'm saying I'll even make your argument for you, but you still won't.

I already have, But the problem is, its to complex for your simple brain to understand ;)
 

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"The modern banking system manufactures money out of nothing. The process is perhaps the most astounding piece of sleight of hand that was ever invented. Banking was conceived in iniquity and was born in sin. The Bankers own the Earth.
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First figure out why paper money has value and when you understand that consept you'll be able to have a discution with me. Until you understand why money has value, nothing you have to say is worth consideration in this debate.

Show me one post where you did.

All of them. So obviously you have absolutely no idea of what we are talking about. Just like I predicted.

This debate is to complex for a simple idiot like yourself Corduroy.

You can't even understand what I've already said. How is there any hope that you can participate in this debate?

If you want you can try and we can laugh at you, because we will realize you have no idea of what we are talking about the first argument you will make.
 

darkbeaver

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Originally yes but now there is more driving its value. What is it?

WAR stoopid!
 

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You want me to tell you what capitalism is? I know I could make a better argument for capitalism then you could, but it's only fair that you get the chance. If you want to give up, then I'm fine with it. I'll explain what capitalism is and I'll even put a positive spin on it.
You would have to cover both versions and the one we are operating under is the flawed one, that is why you will never get an honest answer to your question. Limit profit to 3% or 5% and make all employees the main shareholders and the other one would be the bank that generated loans when needed.
 

Corduroy

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You would have to cover both versions and the one we are operating under is the flawed one, that is why you will never get an honest answer to your question. Limit profit to 3% or 5% and make all employees the main shareholders and the other one would be the bank that generated loans when needed.

There are many kinds of capitalism but there are fundamentals. Making employees the main shareholders would undermine the most basic fundamental of capitalism. Workers would own the means of production. You wouldn't have capitalism.
 

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There are many kinds of capitalism but there are fundamentals. Making employees the main shareholders would undermine the most basic fundamental of capitalism. Workers would own the means of production. You wouldn't have capitalism.

It would be a cooperation.

And that would be the best improvement on capitalism I could imagine if there are any.
 

Corduroy

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I'm not wasting my time on a dumb bitch like you. You want to enlighten us, be my guess, but at this point I give zero $hit what you Think.

Avoid the subject it is then. I said you weren't capable of having an intelligent debate on the subject. Then I said you didn't even know what capitalism was. Then I said I'd define it for you if you wanted. Then I said I'll take whatever ignorant misunderstanding of capitalism you had and I'd debate that too. But you couldn't even manage that. Is trading insults the only thing you want to do? I'm afraid that doesn't interest me.

It would be a cooperation.

And that would be the best improvement on capitalism I could imagine if there are any.

The best improvement on capitalism you could imagine is socialism then.
 

darkbeaver

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:lol: We haven't had a real war in 70+ years.

We? There has been no disernable cessation of war in over one hundred years, and this is definitely seen as progress by those whom you love if we are to judge you by your elementry blatherings on this subject. I don't think you should be reffering to that refined lady as a bitch of any sort you clod.

This member has made a sexist slur. I think he should be banned or beaten up leaving the tavern some night.

I;ll do it for gas money, soon as my shoulder feels better, my old bat is still in the closet. The hickory loves blood.
 

Angstrom

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We? There has been no disernable cessation of war in over one hundred years, and this is definitely seen as progress by those whom you love if we are to judge you by your elementry blatherings on this subject. I don't think you should be reffering to that refined lady as a bitch of any sort you clod.

This member has made a sexist slur. I think he should be banned or beaten up leaving the tavern some night.

I;ll do it for gas money, soon as my shoulder feels better, my old bat is still in the closet. The hickory loves blood.

Yes but what you dumb ****s can't wrap your stupide little heads arround is, that capitalism didn't invent war. War will existe in any economic system you have. So blaming war on capitalism is asinine. Only retarded intellectual midgets can't understand that.

The best improvement on capitalism you could imagine is socialism then.

It is but we have the ability to make corporate cooperations. We have had the ability to make them for a long time. And it still hasen't happened. That tells me it won't happen.

The reason cooperations don't work is its in its fundamental lack of motivated people to see it through.
 

darkbeaver

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Yes but what you dumb ****s can't wrap your stupide little heads arround is, that capitalism didn't invent war. War will existe in any economic system you have. So blaming war on capitalism is asinine. Only retarded intellectual midgets can't understand that.



It is but we have the ability to make corporate cooperations. We have had the ability to make them for a long time. And it still hasen't happened. That tells me it won't happen.

The reason cooperations don't work is its in its fundamental lack of motivated people to see it through.

Not one war was ever planned that did not seek to capitalize.
 

Corduroy

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It is but we have the ability to make corporate cooperations. We have had the ability to make them for a long time. And it still hasen't happened. That tells me it won't happen.

The reason cooperations don't work is its in its fundamental lack of motivated people to see it through.

Co-ops are full of motivated people and they do work. Some work and some don't though. I know this from personal experience. Do you really think that employee-owned cooperatives would be an improvement on capitalism?
 

Angstrom

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War will always exist it won't stop with the end of capitalism. That only a fools dream.

Co-ops are full of motivated people and they do work. Some work and some don't though. I know this from personal experience. Do you really think that employee-owned cooperatives would be an improvement on capitalism?

Yes I do.

But I don't think cooperations can compete against corporations.
And they don't stimulate enough interest of people willing to work hard enough to make it work.

Those two things doom cooperations. They would be ideal, but they are unrealistic. And that's why there are not many of them.