The Storm B4 the Calm
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"He was oppressed and afflicted, yet he did not open his mouth; he was led like a lamb to the slaughter, and as a sheep before its shearers is silent, so he did not open his mouth." (Isaiah 53:7 NIV)
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You do know Motar that the jews do not accept this scripture to be referring to Jesus?
"When Jesus came to the region of Caesarea Philippi, he asked his disciples, 'Who do people say the Son of Man is?' They replied, 'Some say John the Baptist; others say Elijah; and still others, Jeremiah or one of the prophets.'
'But what about you?' he asked. 'Who do you say I am?' Simon Peter answered, 'You are the Messiah, the Son of the living God.' Jesus replied, 'Blessed are you, Simon son of Jonah, for this was not revealed to you by flesh and blood, but by my Father in heaven." (Matthew 16:12-17 NIV)
What matters, LL is not what "the jews" think. (BTW, Simon Peter was Jewish : )
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Many of the messianic scriptures are attributed to Hezekiah. Some even to Cyrus of Persia and the suffering servant being Israel itself.
and now abide in faith , hope and love. But the greatest of these, is "faith".
There is quite a bit of foreshadowing of Messiah in the Old Testament, LL.
Joseph is a type of Christ in his experiences in Egypt:
"You intended to harm me, but God intended it for good to accomplish what is now being done, the saving of many lives." (Genesis 50:20 NIV)
Moses symbolizes Christ in offering his life for Israel's atonement:
"The next day Moses said to the people, 'You have committed a great sin. But now I will go up to the Lord; perhaps I can make atonement for your sin.' So Moses went back to the Lord and said, 'Oh, what a great sin these people have committed! They have made themselves gods of gold. But now, please forgive their sin—but if not, then blot me out of the book you have written." (Exodus 32:0-32 NIV)
also Motar, I would think it would matter what the House ofbIsrael thinks, since they are the authors of the text.
In my experience, God is the Author of the text, LL. And we are not accepted into the kingdom of God based upon our abilities as scribes.
The Tanakh or "old testament" was written by unknown writers who were being held captive in Babylon. It is felt that the motive was to give hope to those held in captivity. Jesus never wrote a single line. Neither did god.
The Pentateuch (Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, Deuteronomy) is ascribed to Moses who was long-deceased by the time of the Babylonian captivity, LL. The two prophets who recorded their messages during the Babylonian exile were Daniel and Ezekiel. Their writings were apocryphal in nature.
Anyone who has experienced the transforming message will beg to differ with you on the Author. I am one of many who knows the Inspiration behind them personally : ) Be blessed.
OMG! An enlightened being in our presence. I am so sorry I didn't know who I was dealing with. I bow to your authority in matters of god.
Jeezuz, you are such a sanctimonious twit.
Be at peace, Cliffy and understand that I am promoting a personal relationship with the Creator and Sustainer of the universe.
"Taste and see that the Lord is good; blessed is the one who takes refuge in him." (Psalm 34:8. NIV)
"Now Joshua son of Nun was filled with the spirit of wisdom because Moses had laid his hands on him. So the Israelites listened to him and did what the Lord had commanded Moses." (Deuteronomy 34:9 NIV)
Concerning personal attacks, I would suggest that the stringent moderation of this forum has been suspended : )
So what you're saying is Joshua wrote what Moses could not have written, I'm sure the Deuteronomist writers would like that one.