trudeau crossed the floor and pushed aside NDP MPs
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You've now talked about the "constitutional requirements" and the House's "rules of order" several times. Let's review what the principles are on these questions so that you can stop spewing your bizarre, special brand of misinformation, and fueling this 500-something post monstrosity, shall we?
On the question of the constitution
The Constitution Act, 1867 speaks very little to the actual functioning of the House. It inherits the privileges, and powers, and immunities as had the House in the United Kingdom at the time, and this includes the power for the House to govern its own legislative process through the adoption of its own standing orders. The Act only speaks expressly to quorum, the method of distributing seats and electing members to them, electing a Speaker, voting, and the five-year maximum life of the House.
Even if we look to the Parliament of Canada Act, there is no requirement that a bill or motion be debated at all, never mind some sort of constitutional prohibition on the curtailment of debate. The constitutional principle, here, is that the House is a master of its own affairs; if the House wishes to have debate, the House shall have debate; and if the House wishes to go to the vote, then the House may do so. The House, in all of these cases, governs itself by majority vote.
On the question of the standing orders
Your argument that the government has acted against the standing orders is ludicrous; they are, in fact, exercising exactly the standing orders with their proposed motion for time allocation, notwithstanding the fact that it has now been withdrawn. In fact, they are using section 78(3)(a) of the standing orders:
Looks, to me, that they're following the rules that the House has approved.
Been mostly gone since that last big argument he had with me. Been leaving me alone ever since, even when he dose poke his head back in. Before that I was the centre of his attention
All that astroturfing :lol:
Trudeau hits 12 month high, Mulcair 12 month low in wake of Elbowgate
Preferred Prime Minister – Trudeau has now hit a new personal best since Nanos started tracking on who Canadians prefer as Prime Minister. Conversely, Mulcair has hit a new personal historic low. Asked who they would prefer as PM, Trudeau was the choice of 53.8% of Canadians while Ambrose came in at 15.6%, Mulcair at 9.0%, May at 3.6% and 16.7% were unsure.
Qualities of a Good Political Leader – Asked a series of independent questions for each federal party leader almost seven of ten Canadians (68.8%) thought Trudeau had the qualities of a good political leader. One of two Canadians (50.7%) thought Mulcair had the qualities of a good political leader while 36.4% and 32.9% thought similarly of May and Ambrose respectively.
Trudeau hits 12 month high, Mulcair 12 month low in wake of Elbowgate | National Newswatch
Trudeau hits 12 month high, Mulcair 12 month low in wake of Elbowgate
Preferred Prime Minister – Trudeau has now hit a new personal best since Nanos started tracking on who Canadians prefer as Prime Minister. Conversely, Mulcair has hit a new personal historic low. Asked who they would prefer as PM, Trudeau was the choice of 53.8% of Canadians while Ambrose came in at 15.6%, Mulcair at 9.0%, May at 3.6% and 16.7% were unsure.
Qualities of a Good Political Leader – Asked a series of independent questions for each federal party leader almost seven of ten Canadians (68.8%) thought Trudeau had the qualities of a good political leader. One of two Canadians (50.7%) thought Mulcair had the qualities of a good political leader while 36.4% and 32.9% thought similarly of May and Ambrose respectively.
Trudeau hits 12 month high, Mulcair 12 month low in wake of Elbowgate | National Newswatch
man, finding that their favorite son was responsible for a stupid kerfuffle sure made his cultural parents all bristly.
anyway kids, the scary part is over and hopefully justin learned his lesson.
not to worry...there will be plenty more stupid sh!t the pony gets up to in the coming years.
maybe it will help him to mature some.
anyway kids, the scary part is over and hopefully justin learned his lesson.
not to worry...there will be plenty more stupid sh!t the pony gets up to in the coming years.
maybe it will help him to mature some.
I have since retracted my statement now that i have the knowledge that the NDP member in question had in her possession concealed nipples without a permit.
Besides, she practically chased down Justine and rammed her boobs into his elbow... Video is crystal clear on that fact.
I hope that the PM's arm is OK and it won't affect his capacity to take selfies
But swearing and throwing a tantrum is a clear signal of an honourable member.... No drama there at all
He has, many times in fact which makes me wonder why he felt that he has to keep on apologizing, especially if he did nothing wrong as many of the usual suspects are claiming.
Curious, non?
Not at all. It's like when people say "If they're lying about him, why doesn't he sue for libel?" Apologies and suits are political tactics, to be deployed when and where they will move the politician's agenda.
Ain't like they mean anything by it.
My take on this issue is that Trudeau actually turned this into something by issuing his first apology.
It would have been one thing to apologize for an accident, but he assumed responsibility for damn near every tragedy in the 20th century on this.
Anywho, it makes for some interesting views on Cdn politics... Might even tune into CPAC sometime
It would have been one thing to apologize for an accident, but he assumed responsibility for damn near every tragedy in the 20th century on this.
Anywho, it makes for some interesting views on Cdn politics... Might even tune into CPAC sometime
That'd be what they call a "political miscalculation," sometimes known as a f*ckup.
Well said.
Trudeau ain't the first to make that mistake and he won't be the last.
The former Premier of AB, and easily the most popular, had a drinking problem (had 2 hands and only one mouth). He screwed up left, right and center, but in the end, he would offer a very simple public apology (just one) and move on.
People loved him for it, almost as if it verified that he was one of them
Like Gerryh said...... you are either stupid or living in a dream world.....Been mostly gone since that last big argument he had with me. Been leaving me alone ever since, even when he dose poke his head back in. Before that I was the centre of his attention
like that guy...
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He just posted the parliamentary rules....Perhaps Five Paradox's post has injected a little sense into this thread!
He never said that what Trou d"eau did was right or even acceptable..
Like a politician, he avoided commenting on the OP, and picked a question he could answer, that would make all the clueless think they were winning....
We are winning.....the enemy is on the run.....
For example, Donald Trump should be a massive f*ck up, but right now, he isn't.
Like Gerryh said...... you are either stupid or living in a dream world.....
like that guy...
Gerry saying a guy is stupid doesn't actually mean a hell of a lot!
I don't think there's any doubt that what Trudeau did was wrong and unacceptable or the only one guilty for that matter. It was a faux pas that should have been forgotten in a day or two.
Careful how you talk about the next POTUS!