Khadr to Harper: Sorry to disappoint you

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At 13, many males start showing their "independence". At this time, I would expect that Kahdr would have taken one of 2 roads to show his independence from his Father. A more moderate road or a more aggressive road. Considering where he was at that time, not in Canada, the more aggressive road would have been an easier choice for him to show he was "his own man". It all comes down to what he was taught, and what he had for choices at the different stages of his life.

It looks to me, like he is trying to keep his nose clean and turn his life around. This is the opportunity he should have been given as soon as he was captured.
His family holds the same beliefs today. How much of an influence do think that had on him?

He was held captive by the US for years, how much influence do you think that had on him?
 

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I wouldn't support him by buying any book from him...
should be a number one seller,i would love to information audit for the book,such asthe communication path between countries,particularly if their was interference from the USA,I think it would be easy pickings,and tie into other wrongful conviction case.
Khadr was found not guilty of the crimes which were accused of him,are you not the least interested on how an innocent child spends time behind bars for a crime in which he was found not guilty of?,
the role of the PM's office in his lengthy time behind bars,
there is so much to know in which we do not know,but what we do know about the administration of constitutional application is going to make the book so much better reading then we can imagine,
move over wikileaks.

And what were the people maimed or killed trying to accomplish?
actually saw an interview of some soliders who were there that day,
with regret i must inform you,there is different versions of what happened,and the soliders stories are different then administration stories,
who should we believe?
 

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actually saw an interview of some soliders who were there that day,
with regret i must inform you,there is different versions of what happened,and the soliders stories are different then administration stories,
who should we believe?

My advice is nothing of what you hear and about 10% of what you see! :) :) I've always pretty much considered Omar to be a victim of circumstances.
 

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My advice is nothing of what you hear and about 10% of what you see! :) :) I've always pretty much considered Omar to be a victim of circumstances.
Victim of circumstance or victim of political agendas,i hope this is what is revealed in the book,if there is a book.
Interesting enough,the above blog mentioned how Mr.Khadr is feeling after wrongful incarciration,unfortunatly we will be all paying for this when a law suit is implemented,and rightfully so,my interests is more in what means and methods of politicol agendas were promoted during his lengthy stay in that place in cuba,i know the Conservatives were playing with this child's life,i am not sure to what degree.i also want to see who had taken holidays to lay in the cuban sun while knownly doing nothing,sucking up taxpayers money,the laisons should be very very interesting to information audit.

My advice is nothing of what you hear and about 10% of what you see! :) :) I've always pretty much considered Omar to be a victim of circumstances.
i think the documentary was 60 minutes,or something like that,are you saying those soliders are lying?

My advice is nothing of what you hear and about 10% of what you see! :) :) I've always pretty much considered Omar to be a victim of circumstances.
i think the documentary was 60 minutes,or something like that,are you saying those soliders are lying?
 

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should be a number one seller,i would love to information audit for the book,such asthe communication path between countries,particularly if their was interference from the USA,I think it would be easy pickings,and tie into other wrongful conviction case.
Khadr was found not guilty of the crimes which were accused of him,are you not the least interested on how an innocent child spends time behind bars for a crime in which he was found not guilty of?,
the role of the PM's office in his lengthy time behind bars,
there is so much to know in which we do not know,but what we do know about the administration of constitutional application is going to make the book so much better reading then we can imagine,
move over wikileaks.

He was found guilty and convicted. What is the not guilty crap of which you refer?

There are many suckers whose wallets are bigger than their brains who would buy the book and give money to that a-s-s-wipe. I will not be one of them. I can see you might be however.

As for his time free, I am glad he has not yet blown anything up yet. Let's hope he continues to not blow things up.

My advice is nothing of what you hear and about 10% of what you see! :) :) I've always pretty much considered Omar to be a victim of circumstances.

Yep. I believe he was innocently weaving baskets over there when it all went down. Another sucker with a coffee table book by little Omar no doubt.
 

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He was found guilty and convicted. What is the not guilty crap of which you refer?

There are many suckers whose wallets are bigger than their brains who would buy the book and give money to that a-s-s-wipe. I will not be one of them. I can see you might be however.

As for his time free, I am glad he has not yet blown anything up yet. Let's hope he continues to not blow things up.



Yep. I believe he was innocently weaving baskets over there when it all went down. Another sucker with a coffee table book by little Omar no doubt.
wrongfully convicted,improperly incarcirated,whatever,you want to call it,he experienced a very bad process of administration of international and national law.i hope you are open to the facts.
 

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wrongfully convicted,improperly incarcirated,whatever,you want to call it,he experienced a very bad process of administration of international and national law.i hope you are open to the facts.

I believe he pleaded guilty.

I wouldn't trust a 'fact' coming from anybody in his family let alone him.
 

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I believe he pleaded guilty.

I wouldn't trust a 'fact' coming from anybody in his family let alone him.
this is your best defense,"he pleaded guilty",you are correct,many wrognfully convicted individuals pleaded guilty,this action and defense is weak,
you should be interested in what techniques were present for this guilty plea to come forward,hours of manipulation is what you will find.
you will have to read to book for these facts.
 

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this is your best defense,"he pleaded guilty",you are correct,many wrognfully convicted individuals pleaded guilty,this action and defense is weak,
you should be interested in what techniques were present for this guilty plea to come forward,hours of manipulation is what you will find.
you will have to read to book for these facts.

How much money will Omar pocket from the sale of a book? 15 cents? a dollar?
 

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rumour has it,he will be giving the money to charity.

Does Omar currently have a job? If he has to rely on books sales to live he may have a couple of nickels for charity.

this is your best defense,"he pleaded guilty",you are correct,many wrognfully convicted individuals pleaded guilty,this action and defense is weak,
you should be interested in what techniques were present for this guilty plea to come forward,hours of manipulation is what you will find.
you will have to read to book for these facts.

After a few months/years of water boarding I might plead guilty too! None of us who weren't at Guatonimo don't really have a clue what went on! The documentary could well have been fairly credible. Anyway time to move on...............there's bigger fish to fry. ISIS! :) :)
 

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So, tell me, he's been out for how long? What "threats" has he posed?
Oh that's right. He didn't announce any intentions or just jump right into it as soon as he was released. What was I thinking?


If he's such a non-threat, why the curfew and tracking bracelet? Or did you expect him to go straight out and buy some firearms and ingredients for ANFO with no coin while wearing a tracking bracelet?


I'm not saying he's going to do anything nefarious, but they usually don't strap a tracking device on you just for sh*ts and giggles.
 

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Oh that's right. He didn't announce any intentions or just jump right into it as soon as he was released. What was I thinking?


If he's such a non-threat, why the curfew and tracking bracelet? Or did you expect him to go straight out and buy some firearms and ingredients for ANFO with no coin while wearing a tracking bracelet?


I'm not saying he's going to do anything nefarious, but they usually don't strap a tracking device on you just for sh*ts and giggles.

I think it's called a precaution, Just like if the Pope wants to take out a bank loan he still has to put up collateral! :) :)
 

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The omar khadr defense league is strong today


 

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wrongfully convicted,improperly incarcirated,whatever,you want to call it,he experienced a very bad process of administration of international and national law.i hope you are open to the facts.

Wrongfully convicted?

Exactly who are you to make that call?

As for the incarceration thingy, by rights, he should have been locked-up in an Afghan jail (tried in an Afghan Court as well).... The Omar apologists should thank their lucky stars that he went to Gitmo instead of the Afghan system

this is your best defense,"he pleaded guilty",you are correct,many wrognfully convicted individuals pleaded guilty

... Even more 'properly convicted' individuals have pleaded guilty, so, how does this fact alter your views?

you should be interested in what techniques were present for this guilty plea to come forward,hours of manipulation is what you will find.

Planting IEDs is also a technique... Wonder if Khadr will be describing this wee element in his book, or maybe there will be a section on Bundt Cake recipes

you will have to read to book for these facts.

I get it now... When Khadr says something, it qualifies as fact... When an opposing position is forwarded, it is solely supposition and allegations.

gotcha
 

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this is your best defense,"he pleaded guilty",you are correct,many wrognfully convicted individuals pleaded guilty,this action and defense is weak,
you should be interested in what techniques were present for this guilty plea to come forward,hours of manipulation is what you will find.
you will have to read to book for these facts.

Don't know, don't care. Seems pretty cut and dry that he was there and likely killed the American soldiers or was involved in their deaths. He has been found guilty.

How much money will Omar pocket from the sale of a book? 15 cents? a dollar?

rumour has it,he will be giving the money to charity.

He is being sued by the families of the soldiers he murdered. They would get first crack at the money unless he pulls an OJ Simpson. And I am sure the charity will not have terrorist connections.

The omar khadr defense league is strong today

Must have been a good batch of kool aid.
 

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Planting IEDs is also a technique... Wonder if Khadr will be describing this wee element in his book, or maybe there will be a section on Bundt Cake recipes

So it's been established 100% beyond any doubt that he was planting I.E.D.s ??

"Seems pretty cut and dry that he was there and likely killed the American soldiers or was involved in their deaths."

In what courts in democratic countries is "likely killed" strong enough to get a conviction?
 

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So it's been established 100% beyond any doubt that he was planting I.E.D.s ??

"Seems pretty cut and dry that he was there and likely killed the American soldiers or was involved in their deaths."

In what courts in democratic countries is "likely killed" strong enough to get a conviction?


When they plead guilty.

But you go ahead and believe he was over there baking cookies if you want.
 

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So it's been established 100% beyond any doubt that he was planting I.E.D.s ??

Building them too



... Or, do you simply believe that these are nothing more than delicious bundt cakes?


"Seems pretty cut and dry that he was there and likely killed the American soldiers or was involved in their deaths."

In what courts in democratic countries is "likely killed" strong enough to get a conviction?

Let's review then, shall we?

Picts like the one above; eye-witness testimony from multiple individuals including US military and an admission from Khadr himself.

Yep, you're right, it's a pretty foggy picture, shrouded in all kinds of supposition