Salty rich guy offers bribe to remove Notley

captain morgan

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Nothing compares to the comedic relief we are getting from Trudeau-lite.... Gonna be 4 years of high calibre gaffes that will easily exceed the timeless funnies of the Keystone Kops and the 3 Stooges.
 

Nick Danger

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... Guessin' you missed the part where auntie Rachel decided that upping corp taxes in the province along with threatening higher prov royalties was a really good idea to do during a recession.

Just to keep this in context, with the recent hike in corporate tax from 10% to 12% Alberta's rate went from the lowest in the country to the middle of the pack.
 

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Just to keep this in context, with the recent hike in corporate tax from 10% to 12% Alberta's rate went from the lowest in the country to the middle of the pack.


... Your point?

Considering that the low commodity price would have wiped-out any/all corporate profits and therefore, a tax hike is ineffective as it pretty much applies to EBITA, the entire exercise of raising the taxes had a bigger effect on the companies NOT reinvesting any money in AB and any new investment went East to Sask.

Kinda defeats the purpose if the actions result in the gvt collecting even fewer dollars
 

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This is nothing but intellectually stunted drivel on a talk show which I am surprised, nay, saddened it got repeated by the 'media' at large unless they realize O'Leary is channelling Trump and sounds just as foolish.

I hope we don't see him with a toupee next week.........
 

tay

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How is he and what is he correct about?

He is being dismissive of the realities of Oil.


He suggests an Oil person be in charge. I say no because they aren't doing a very good job of looking after their business that they are supposedly good at and thousands of people are getting laid off.


I still want to see a 'temporary' Made in Canada Oil Price that will retain these jobs Apparently $35.00 is the bottom but If $50.00 is needed we could all handle that at the pumps........


The Canadian entrepreneur and financial commentator said his offer comes as an individual concerned about the country and the economy.

O'Leary said energy companies remain in the dark about potential changes to royalties, as a panel looking into what the province charges the industry has yet to release its findings. In the meantime, the NDP government has raised corporate taxes and is moving forward with plans to raise the minimum wage in the province.

Amidst low oil prices through 2015, the energy sector has seen 40,000 job losses, many of which were in Alberta, according to the Canadian Association of Petroleum Producers.

"All that talent, all those people that know what they're doing are losing their jobs by the thousands. All because of a government that just by some unfortunate chance got elected," O'Leary said. "(A government) that's never run an energy-based economy. What a disaster."

He said Alberta needs a leader who has worked in the energy industry, as oil exports are "the essence of our economy."
 

petros

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Capt Morgan stated why quite clearly. Stupidity. Raising taxes and royalties are driving business from the Province. Just like high energy costs and crazy unionists drove business from ON.

Does that confuse you?
 

tay

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Capt Morgan stated why quite clearly. Stupidity. Raising taxes and royalties are driving business from the Province. Just like high energy costs and crazy unionists drove business from ON.

Does that confuse you?

The tax increases are minimal and the decision on Royalties hadn't happened yet. Alberta still has the lowest Corporate tax environments in Canada or the U.S.

I still don't see how an Oil Exec could save all those jobs being lost in the Oil business as O'leary claims unless we have a Made in Canada price......

Provincially, those making over $125,000 per year will face income tax increases of between 0.5 and 1.25 per cent, depending on their income. Federally, anyone making over $200,000 per year will be dinged an additional four per cent.

The middle class, however, will get some relief. Those earning between $45,000 and $90,000 will get a federal tax break topping out at $680 per year, while provincial taxes will remain steady at 10 per cent.


http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/tax-increases-alberta-2016-1.3387277
 

mentalfloss

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O'Leary is definitely in the same camp of vicious asshat as Trump is but he just doesn't have the hair.
 

Cannuck

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Although I'm no fan of Notley, I can't help but laugh at the silliness of his offer. Hey! I'm willing to buy stock in Alberta energy companies if Notley leaves and it has nothing to do with the fact that some of these stocks are at bargain basement prices and have nowhere to go but up. Of course he could have been talking about investing in wind energy
 

petros

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The tax increases are minimal and the decision on Royalties hadn't happened yet. Alberta still has the lowest Corporate tax environments in Canada or the U.S.

I still don't see how an Oil Exec could save all those jobs being lost in the Oil business as O'leary claims unless we have a Made in Canada price......

Provincially, those making over $125,000 per year will face income tax increases of between 0.5 and 1.25 per cent, depending on their income. Federally, anyone making over $200,000 per year will be dinged an additional four per cent.

The middle class, however, will get some relief. Those earning between $45,000 and $90,000 will get a federal tax break topping out at $680 per year, while provincial taxes will remain steady at 10 per cent.


http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/tax-increases-alberta-2016-1.3387277

What has been done to protect jobs and businesses?
 

taxslave

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He is correct and you don't like it. Boohoo![/QUOTE

How is he and what is he correct about?

He is being dismissive of the realities of Oil.


He suggests an Oil person be in charge. I say no because they aren't doing a very good job of looking after their business that they are supposedly good at and thousands of people are getting laid off.


I still want to see a 'temporary' Made in Canada Oil Price that will retain these jobs Apparently $35.00 is the bottom but If $50.00 is needed we could all handle that at the pumps........


The Canadian entrepreneur and financial commentator said his offer comes as an individual concerned about the country and the economy.

O'Leary said energy companies remain in the dark about potential changes to royalties, as a panel looking into what the province charges the industry has yet to release its findings. In the meantime, the NDP government has raised corporate taxes and is moving forward with plans to raise the minimum wage in the province.

Amidst low oil prices through 2015, the energy sector has seen 40,000 job losses, many of which were in Alberta, according to the Canadian Association of Petroleum Producers.

"All that talent, all those people that know what they're doing are losing their jobs by the thousands. All because of a government that just by some unfortunate chance got elected," O'Leary said. "(A government) that's never run an energy-based economy. What a disaster."

He said Alberta needs a leader who has worked in the energy industry, as oil exports are "the essence of our economy."

You might be dumb enough to want to pay higher gas prices but the rest of us certainly do not want to. What happensd to your disdain for orporate subsidies?
BC is doing just fine and creating jobs. Maybe some of the eastern provinces could try responsible government and do the same instead of forcing tradespeople to go to Alberta to find a real job.

The tax increases are minimal and the decision on Royalties hadn't happened yet. Alberta still has the lowest Corporate tax environments in Canada or the U.S.

I still don't see how an Oil Exec could save all those jobs being lost in the Oil business as O'leary claims unless we have a Made in Canada price......

Provincially, those making over $125,000 per year will face income tax increases of between 0.5 and 1.25 per cent, depending on their income. Federally, anyone making over $200,000 per year will be dinged an additional four per cent.

The middle class, however, will get some relief. Those earning between $45,000 and $90,000 will get a federal tax break topping out at $680 per year, while provincial taxes will remain steady at 10 per cent.


http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/tax-increases-alberta-2016-1.3387277

Most working people make over $100G a year so the tax will fall squarely on the producers. As usual.
In any event the oil refineries and whatnot are producing just fine, it is only construction and exploration that has dropped off. CNR is still having job fairs in BC.
 

tay

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What has been done to protect jobs and businesses?



So what should be done to protect jobs in the Oil biz in a world wide price slump?

You might be dumb enough to want to pay higher gas prices but the rest of us certainly do not want to. What happensd to your disdain for orporate subsidies?
BC is doing just fine and creating jobs. Maybe some of the eastern provinces could try responsible government and do the same instead of forcing tradespeople to go to Alberta to find a real job.



Most working people make over $100G a year so the tax will fall squarely on the producers. As usual.
In any event the oil refineries and whatnot are producing just fine, it is only construction and exploration that has dropped off. CNR is still having job fairs in BC.

Call it dumb (I'm sure you have a better idea to save those jobs) to want to pay 10 cents a liter more if you will but if you could save jobs in the Oil field I think those workers would be very thankful to you for doing so.


As you say, most working people make over a 100 thou a year so they wouldn't even notice an extra $200.00 a year in gas....