Why Are So Many Christians So Un-Christian?

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Curious Cdn said:
Who are you talking to?
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Im guessing he's referring to me. Sometimes he gets high and talks nonsense. I post links showing that it's nonsense and he gets angry. A while back it was a statement about volunteer firefighters responding in their own vehicles and before that, some silliness about tax credits. He'll come down soon and things will return to a semi-normal state.
 
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petros said:
Ummmm No!!!

1) Jesus identified himself and his associates as Israelites, and his mission was directed to the House of Israel. He was identified by other Israelite insiders according to his Israelite family and lineage and by his place of birth and upbringing, Nazareth and Galilee. He was Yeshua bar Yoseph, an 'Israelite', a 'Galilean', a 'Nazarene from Nazareth of Galilee, but not a 'Judean' resident in Judea.

(2) Jesus never called himself a Ioudaios and was never designated as such by fellow Israelites. He was called, or thought of as, a Ioudaios only by non-Israelite outsiders whose terminology was consistent with Hellenistic and Roman practice, designating as 'Judean' all residents of Judea, together with all those connected to Judea by blood relations, Torah allegiance, patriotism, and loyalty to Judea, the holy city of Jerusalem and the Temple.

(3) His first followers were identified by fellow Israelites also as 'Galileans', 'Nazarenes', or members of 'the Way', but never as 'Judeans'.

(4) They too, like Jesus, viewed themselves as Israelites. They preferred 'Israel' and 'Israelite' as self-identifiers when speaking to the ingroup Israel and when addressing fellow disciples.
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Thanks for being forthright Petros. Appreciated.
 
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petros said:
Sorry no. Archeology says otherwise.
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well if they have proof of jesus, then they must have proof of god...

OR they have a man whom wondered about lying about his...father...or they simply had a schizophrenic wondering around.

We've got a few of them here too...jesus's I mean. They're convinced...I can get you an autograph is you like?
 
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Twila said:
well if they have proof of jesus, then they must have proof of god...

OR they have a man whom wondered about lying about his...father...or they simply had a schizophrenic wondering around.
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Or they took what he said and changed it or its meaning to fit their own agenda
 
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Cannuck said:
Or they took what he said and changed it or its meaning to fit their own agenda
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There are no first hand accounts of his existance. Only record of his existance is after his death...

They also believed some pretty sketchy stuff way back then so...
 
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Twila said:
There are no first hand accounts of his existance. Only record of his existance is after his death...

They also believed some pretty sketchy stuff way back then so...
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There are people a lot smarter than you or I that say he existed so I can accept that on face value....
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historicity_of_Jesus
...as for whether or not he was who some folks think he was, that's up for debate. I can't say for sure but what I can say is that, when I look at the majority of people in his camp, I tend to want to run the other way.

petros said:
I don't like inaccuracy.
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You also don't like people posting links to sites that refute you. You should get over it.
 
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Cannuck said:
There are people a lot smarter than you or I that say he existed so I can accept that on face value....
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historicity_of_Jesus
...as for whether or not he was who some folks think he was, that's up for debate. I can't say for sure but what I can say is that, when I look at the majority of people in his camp, I tend to want to run the other way.
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There are also alot of people smarter then you and I that say he didn't. But maybe they're referring to the jesus christians are following.

Again, there's no proof of jesus's existance.

 
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You could say the same things about many historical figures. Some people have argued Alexander The Great never existed and Blackie is absolutely convinced Robin Hood existed
 
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