The scientific approach

CDNBear

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You don't seem to be doing all that well in a battle of wits despite your claim of being 'mentally superior'.
There's no doubt you see it that way, lol.

Considering the fist 5 books of the Bible is the Torah your argument shows the limit of your ability to think.
No, but that sentence sure says a lot about your inabilities.

Pretty much at zero on any subject we have covered.
There's no doubt you see it that way, and again, lol.

Now your best move is to give me a red, that shows your real IQ when meeting somebody who has something factual to promote.
I only hand out reds to people who say stupid things and/or are just stupid.

And for the same reasons that fish don't know they're wet. I can see why you wouldn't understand that you really don't post anything factual.
 

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A fish knows when they are out of water, you don't know when you are out of your league. That make a fish smarter than you are.
 

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How much does the speed of light decrease because of the gravity of the sun itself. How much faster is light traveling when it comes towards our sun from another star? Let's start there as well as your links that 'prove' gravity attracts light from it's normal 'flight path'.
You are confusing change of direction with speed, which should already answer both your questions. The effect is called gravitational lensing. Since light always moves at a constant speed, lensing changes the direction of the velocity of the light but not it's actual velocity.


I also think you may be confusing two different theories. There used to be the theory that light always travelled in a straight line, but it's been disproven several times over. The effect of gravitational lensing is readily observable.


If you want links, just Google "gravitational lens".
 

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You are confusing change of direction with speed, which should already answer both your questions. The effect is called gravitational lensing. Since light always moves at a constant speed, lensing changes the direction of the velocity of the light but not it's actual velocity.


I also think you may be confusing two different theories. There used to be the theory that light always travelled in a straight line, but it's been disproven several times over. The effect of gravitational lensing is readily observable.


If you want links, just Google "gravitational lens".
I'm aware of the term, that doesn't make it good science. With today's scopes it should be pretty easy to block the sun so only the stars are visible and they should all disappear before the sun coves them if the sun can bend light. That 'experiment' was done around 1900, how about some examples from this century?

How can light move at the same speed if the sun's gravity can affect it? If that was the case the speed then the speed of light between the Sun and Mercury would be slower than the speed between Mars and Jupiter.

Why can the light from a star that has to pass a galaxy to get here nor disappear as all the light would be gathered by gravity. You are forgetting to supply the proof btw.

Science also proposes that that effect allows you to see what is behind a galaxy, it can't do that just like a mirage isn't bending light it is reflecting the light and that is how it's direction is changed rather than with gravity.

Liar, I know I'm going down to the minors when I set my sights on you.
In your case that would be 'up to the minors' and you are still a big fail, just like as far back as your welding skills and 9/11 shows. Only in your world could sagging floors cause beams 20x their strength to bend to the point of breaking. If you would lie about things your trade should know then that pretty much sums your whole life up as far as I'm concerned. No facts to help you so you do your little troll act, the only one you have left.
 

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How does it start then if you can't define the ending? (perhaps we have already covered your whole range of knowledge about the Torah)
 

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I'm aware of the term, that doesn't make it good science. With today's scopes it should be pretty easy to block the sun so only the stars are visible and they should all disappear before the sun coves them if the sun can bend light. That 'experiment' was done around 1900, how about some examples from this century?
Oh good grief, the Sun is bending light or if you prefer, arcing light, not "sucking light in" and making it disappear. That's what a black hole does.
As for the rest of the nonsense you responded with, let me repeat, change...of...direction...does NOT...equal...change...in...velocity...when...dealing...with...light.