Macleans: The hard truths behind Ontario’s pricey electrical system

CDNBear

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captain morgan said:
Had to chuckle a bit reading that... All that came to mind was The Little Train That Could.

I think I can... I think I can... I think I can... I know I can... I know I can... I know I can...
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And then we find out, he can't.

But he can ignore that he can't, like a champ.
 
CDNBear

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captain morgan said:
Clearly, he won't be emulating the Little Train.... Maybe the flaw here is that he should try stopping a little train (read: toy) first before he graduates into the real thing
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Nah, he likes BANG! Stop or I'll shoot, thinking.

Hence how he adores JT's no plan refugee binge, and lets tax carbon and worry about how it impacts people after.

Left wing logic.
 
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It’s easy to forget, Nathwani adds, that Ontario was in crisis-mode back in the early 2000s as it grappled with aging infrastructure and a lack of sufficient generating capacity.
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Bullsh*t. The capacity is about the same if not lower than it was in the early part of the century. Keep in mind I'm not counting those stupid windmills as part of the capacity since I don't consider intermittent generation to be reliable and therefore not an integral part of our capacity.
Furthermore, the blackout of 2003 was traced to an overload problem in Ohio. Interconnectivity of the grids is what caused the black out in the rest of the affected area. It was NOT a result of Ontario not having enough capacity.
 
mentalfloss

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The inconvenient truth is that there was always an economic cost in the short term as the economy transitions to renewables.

The most backwards places like Alberta are getting hit hardest to make that transition.
 
petros

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mentalfloss said:
Really.

Does the fact that we are better prepared for the future bother you that much?
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Better prepared for the future? Ontario's future? So why is ON funding whirly gigs in Saskatchewan? Are we going to be making auto parts in SK again?

mentalfloss said:
The inconvenient truth is that there was always an economic cost in the short term as the economy transitions to renewables.

The most backwards places like Alberta are getting hit hardest to make that transition.
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AB being hardest hit? How so? Do you know who is being hardest hit? You!
 
petros

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Ouch. Can you cook and do laundry in the afternoon without being gouged in AB?

Apparently wind energy in AB requires some hefty subsidies according to Canadian Wind Energy Assoc.

Despite the economic and environmental benefits of increasing wind and solar energy supply in Alberta, however, Alberta’s electricity market design does not provide wind and solar energy developers with the revenue certainty required to finance their capital intensive projects – making it extremely challenging for Alberta to compete for renewable energy investment. As a result, renewable energy is not forecast to grow substantially in Alberta over the next 20 years without an evolution in Alberta’s electricity market structure
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Alberta | Canadian Wind Energy Association
 
SLM

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petros said:
Ouch. Can you cook and do laundry in the afternoon without being gouged in AB?
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Wait a minute......are you telling me there is a world where one can both do laundry and eat dinner in the same day? Does the Easter Bunny live there, cuz I'm doubting the validity of that one.
 
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