I am hoping that when quebec decides to leave Canada, or, we decide it is time for quebec to leave, that they can speak whatever language they want. Also that I don't have to keep turning around the containers that come from the store with English and french on the labels.BTW I hope they are keeping track of how much quebec gets in transfer payments.
English signs must be taken down in Gaspé hospitals, language watchdog rules
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One problem with opposition to official bilingualism. Here in Quebec, 90% of opponents are anglophobes. Outside Quebec, 90% of opponents of official bilingualism are Francophobes. That puts those like myself who oppose official bilingualism on rational grounds in a lonely position.
There is no "official bilingualism" in Quebec. In Quebec, it is officially French only. The only other province in this country that has a stand on language, is New Brunswick, which is officially bilingual. No other province, aside from those 2, have official language laws.
The only noticeable effect I see is the extra 5 minutes it takes to get a plane in the air while they explain how to do a seat belt in french to a planeload of passengers who couldn't give a rats *** in English much less French.
Cost of Official Bilingualism to Canadians since its inception; $1.65 trillion.
That's an average of $36 billion/yr that could have been way better spent. The military, social programs, housing for the homeless, education, infrastructure, the list goes on. Official bilingualism did nothing except cause further rifts between English and French speaking Canada.
English signs must be taken down in Gaspé hospitals, language watchdog rules
The regional health centre in Gaspé has been ordered to take down some bilingual signs inside its buildings.
The order was given by the Office québécois de la langue française (OQLF), which visited a Gaspé hospital over the summer and sent the notice to the Centre intégré de santé et de services sociaux (CISSS) de Gaspésie.
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If Quebec is 'FRENCH ONLY - INCLUDING HOSPITALS' why should the rest of Canada be bilingual?
That French bull sh*t should have been banned right after Montcalm was defeated on the Fields of Abraham 256 years ago!
Hope it doesn't confuse the staff. Most hospitals have colored lines on the floor you can follow so signs don't matter that much.
Exactly, and the bilingualism of NB is becoming a huge issue again.
When people are losing their jobs because they are not a 'level II' french speaker, it's gone too far.
When kids can't share the same bus to go to school because of language (french and english), it's gone too far.
I live in a predominately english-speaking area. We do have some people come to our hospital that speak both languages and when asked which language they prefer, they either say "it doesn't matter" or "English". It's rare we get someone who wants only french here.
IMO, what needs to be really done is to look at the demographics of an area and say okay, this is an english majority or french majority area so X amount of your staff should speak both languages and have X amount of people on at all times who can speak both languages."
That is more fair and balanced than what's happening now.
It's getting to the point that it wouldn't surprise me if there's a push again to be English only like there was when I was a kid.
The Federal Government is officially bilingual. Last ai checked, Quebec w a still part of Canada. So for example, Bill 101 has no jurisdictiion over Canada a post even in Quebec, but Canada Post must respect the Official Languages Act, even in Quebec.
Official Bilingualism in New Brunswick is also entrenched in the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms, so again it's not like the Province can decide without the Feds agreeine to revise the Constitution.
Not bad, but you want"gonnas" to be short and snappy. In this case I'd recommend "Stubborns gonna stub." Still understandable, and shorter and amusing.
You'll have to forgive Boomster. He's got a raging case of mal au derriere right now.
Plus his chronic stupid.
This Supreme Court decision flies in the face of several argument posted by differen people in this thread.....
A Supreme Court of Canada ruling on Friday will have repercussions across the country and adds weight to another lawsuit asking for 21 new French schools in B.C.
The court has upheld a B.C. Supreme Court judge's ruling that French students in Vancouver do not have access to the equivalent educational services as their English counterparts. The case centres around L'ecole Rose-des-Vents, a small French school in Vancouver near Oak St. and 41st Ave., where in 2010, parents challenged the government to provide equivalent education for students whose first language is French, as is required under the Canadian constitution. The Supreme Court agreed.
The Conseil scolaire francophone de la Colombie-Britannique (CSF), the board for French schools in the province, has a similar case in B.C. Supreme Court that says at least 21 schools, including RDV, and a board office should be provided for French students. The greatest demand is in Metro Vancouver, the Fraser Valley, Victoria, the Okanagan and Sea-to-Sky school districts. That case is broader in scope and also looks specifically at capital spending and operational funding for an equivalent education for francophone students, and should wrap up this summer.
A Supreme Court of Canada ruling on Friday will have repercussions across the country and adds weight to another lawsuit asking for 21 new French schools in B.C.
The court has upheld a B.C. Supreme Court judge's ruling that French students in Vancouver do not have access to the equivalent educational services as their English counterparts. The case centres around L'ecole Rose-des-Vents, a small French school in Vancouver near Oak St. and 41st Ave., where in 2010, parents challenged the government to provide equivalent education for students whose first language is French, as is required under the Canadian constitution. The Supreme Court agreed.
The Conseil scolaire francophone de la Colombie-Britannique (CSF), the board for French schools in the province, has a similar case in B.C. Supreme Court that says at least 21 schools, including RDV, and a board office should be provided for French students. The greatest demand is in Metro Vancouver, the Fraser Valley, Victoria, the Okanagan and Sea-to-Sky school districts. That case is broader in scope and also looks specifically at capital spending and operational funding for an equivalent education for francophone students, and should wrap up this summer.
That will just suckered more resources away from sign languages and indigenous languages.
I attended school in French in BC.
Yes it is true that had it not been for the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms, I might not know French so well today.
My problem though is that the money directed towards guaranteeing this provide get of mine while I was in BC is money that could have gone towards sign languages or the local indigenous language instead. In other words, my privileges came at everyone else's expense.
I could have seen a voucher programme whereby schools are free to teach in the language of their choice as long as the sprovincial tests are in the dominabt language of the province which they must pass.
That way, if there is a market for a French-medium school or any other language school, we'd get it, otherwise not. But at least that way fair is fair. But I never should have been guaranteed a set-in-stone constitutional right at all cost which other linguistic communities could not equally enjoy.
In Victoria at the time there were more Chinese than French. Why could my parents benefit from a French school for me but Chinese taxpayers couldn't benefit from the same.
Fundamentally, it's a question of justice.
Slow down there bubba. Getting awful hard to read yer posts. Maybe take a deep breath before replying and bring yer blood pressure down. Know what, things aren't always black and white. Quebec, way back, asked the Feds to respect Bill 101, Do you remember that?
Here's a very small primer from NB
Frequently Asked Questions | The Office of the Commissioner of Official Languages for New Brunswick
notice how schools do NOT have to offer services in both languages.
Section 23 of the charter is very clear. I don't understand why this even needed to go to court. A complete waste of money as the conclusion was forgone.
and, once again, machjo has managed to move this topic away from the original and introduce his damn pet voucher for education crap.
Not so much as it's supported as none of them have balls enough to open up a Constitutional debate