He probably was since his job would have been to obscure the original meanings of seven. Lucky seven.
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He probably was since his job would have been to obscure the original meanings of seven. Lucky seven.
Each of the 7 churches has members that will be overcoming some things before they come face to face with God. The ones on the proper side of the isle get 1,000 extra years in the kingdom of God before the rest of mankind joins them so there is that reward which makes you that much ahead for eternity. The timing for the gifts are the start of the 1,000 year period or judgment day or the beginning of the new earth so there are 3 groups and the new earth one is the two other groups when they are combined.
Re:2:7:
He that hath an ear,
let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches;
To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the tree of life,
which is in the midst of the paradise of God.
Re:2:11:
He that hath an ear,
let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches;
He that overcometh shall not be hurt of the second death.
Re:2:17:
He that hath an ear,
let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches;
To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the hidden manna,
and will give him a white stone,
and in the stone a new name written,
which no man knoweth saving he that receiveth it.
Re:2:26:
And he that overcometh,
and keepeth my works unto the end,
to him will I give power over the nations:
Re:3:5:
He that overcometh,
the same shall be clothed in white raiment;
and I will not blot out his name out of the book of life,
but I will confess his name before my Father,
and before his angels.
Re:3:12:
Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God,
and he shall go no more out:
and I will write upon him the name of my God,
and the name of the city of my God,
which is new Jerusalem,
which cometh down out of heaven from my God:
and I will write upon him my new name.
Re:3:21:
To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne,
even as I also overcame,
and am set down with my Father in his throne.
In THE SEVEN SOULS OF MAN, he said, "The modern manufacture of ancient mysteries is a great imposition, and sure to be found out. The mysteries called Christian . . . I look upon them as the greatest imposition of all."
the original seven of the Aahenru; these seven are the reapers.
Thou hast brought these seven loaves for me to live by, bringing the bread that Horus (the Christ) makes.
The fulness of the Christ being the Egyptian, Buddhist, and Gnostic pleroma of all the seven preceding powers that culminated in the Christhood.
The Christian doctrine of being born again was derived without knowledge from this Gnostic re-birth, which was the conversion of the total man, and his seven lower souls, into a likeness of his supreme or divine self, with the eighth one, the Christ-spirit, as the reproducer for eternal life.
The Wisdom or Sophia of the Gnostics was first at the head of the seven pre-planetary powers, and was called "Ogdoas," as mother of the first and inferior Hebdomad;
She was the primal type of Wisdom, who built her house with the Seven Pillars, and who was set in the heavens as Kefa, later Sefekh, and latest Sophia.
Anthropos was turned into the Son of Man--according to Matthew--Monogenes into the Only-begotten, according to John, their
Hemorrhoidal Sophia into the woman who suffered from the issue of blood, the mother of the seven inferior powers into Mary Magdalene possessed by her seven devils,
Moreover, in John's gospel we meet with the Seven Fishers on board the boat. These correspond to the seven who are followers of Horus in the Egyptian Ritual, and who are said to fish for Horus. They go a-fishing with Horus in his boat; and they are also called the "Seven planks in the boat of souls."
"Bel prepared the Seven Mansions of the Gods.
Then, as Hermes says in the Divine Pymander, the heaven was seen in seven circles, and the gods were visible in the stars with all their signs, and the stars were numbered with the gods in them, the gods being seven in number;
As the Hebrew Elohim, they may be dislimned and lose their likeness, but they are the same seven powers of eternal nature (as explained by the Gnostics or Kabalists).
Gerrald Massey
the original seven of the Aahenru; these seven are the reapers.
Thou hast brought these seven loaves for me to live by, bringing the bread that Horus (the Christ) makes.
The fulness of the Christ being the Egyptian, Buddhist, and Gnostic pleroma of all the seven preceding powers that culminated in the Christhood.
The Christian doctrine of being born again was derived without knowledge from this Gnostic re-birth, which was the conversion of the total man, and his seven lower souls, into a likeness of his supreme or divine self, with the eighth one, the Christ-spirit, as the reproducer for eternal life.
The Wisdom or Sophia of the Gnostics was first at the head of the seven pre-planetary powers, and was called "Ogdoas," as mother of the first and inferior Hebdomad;
She was the primal type of Wisdom, who built her house with the Seven Pillars, and who was set in the heavens as Kefa, later Sefekh, and latest Sophia.
Anthropos was turned into the Son of Man--according to Matthew--Monogenes into the Only-begotten, according to John, their
Hemorrhoidal Sophia into the woman who suffered from the issue of blood, the mother of the seven inferior powers into Mary Magdalene possessed by her seven devils,
Moreover, in John's gospel we meet with the Seven Fishers on board the boat. These correspond to the seven who are followers of Horus in the Egyptian Ritual, and who are said to fish for Horus. They go a-fishing with Horus in his boat; and they are also called the "Seven planks in the boat of souls."
"Bel prepared the Seven Mansions of the Gods.
Then, as Hermes says in the Divine Pymander, the heaven was seen in seven circles, and the gods were visible in the stars with all their signs, and the stars were numbered with the gods in them, the gods being seven in number;
As the Hebrew Elohim, they may be dislimned and lose their likeness, but they are the same seven powers of eternal nature (as explained by the Gnostics or Kabalists).
Gerrald Massey
I wouldn't know Beav because I did not live in those times therefore the message probably is not relevant to me. I will say this. When making wood panels for raised panel cabinet doors or house doors, it is best to cut the boards no more than 4 inches in width, and glue them together reversing the growth rings , flat down on the clamps as to prevent cupping and twisting. That info I can share.
and no need to apply a metaphor. There is none. I'm a woodworker ffs.
The wheat and the weeds grow together until the harvest, LL.
Agree, DB.
Carpenter, LL?
One of my careers was carpenter (framing), but I couldn't walk on water. But I did heal some sick and caught a lot of fish.
A craftsman with an eye for both sound structure and symmetry. Able to identify/justify shoddy frame and features. Nice : )
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just creating things from wood . Nothing complicated. Kept food on the table and a roof over my families head. That was the only value of it. It's a living.
I've fished a lot too Cliffy especially when I lived by the Spring River. I speak that in a literal sense. I gave up figurative fishing awhile back
. . . Undo Steve's tumor from his body and life forever more. (tumor being from the group called 'defects' and because everybody knows that God like to keep groups whole all other things that could ever go wrong are also exorcised in the transition into a glorified body) Hate to repeat something you most likely already knew being as you were trained by the best, the RCC School System, SS for short.
During the time of the trumps (not Don but wouldn't that be cute) the faith is based on 'seeing is believing' and being unrepented at the end of the 6th one determines if your relationship matches one that gets gifts. If it does you experience Re:10 and the book of life for who gets a glorified body has their names read out loud, if you are somebody that still needs to overcome some things then you are 'punished' and experience Re:16 and your trip to the grave where you experience your 'conversion' so you are wearing white when Christ calls you home and the meeting God at the Great White Throne event and the last ones to be gathered are given the water that glorifies the body and then the next phase of prophecy can take place. An eternal sinless existence for men as they gain the strength of angels and the compassion of God on their journey to being as wise as God is already and always has been.
All 7 had people that were short of being 'holy' enough to be given gifts by God because that is what you do to people you like. You also move the people that would harm them off to the side where they do not have that option. Even the church that is promoted as being perfected already has a flaw in that their faith is short lived when it comes to defining exactly what their doctrine is.
During the time of the trumps (not Don but wouldn't that be cute) the faith is based on 'seeing is believing' and being unrepented at the end of the 6th one determines if your relationship matches one that gets gifts. If it does you experience Re:10 and the book of life for who gets a glorified body has their names read out loud, if you are somebody that still needs to overcome some things then you are 'punished' and experience Re:16 and your trip to the grave where you experience your 'conversion' so you are wearing white when Christ calls you home and the meeting God at the Great White Throne event and the last ones to be gathered are given the water that glorifies the body and then the next phase of prophecy can take place. An eternal sinless existence for men as they gain the strength of angels and the compassion of God on their journey to being as wise as God is already and always has been.
Another "DUH?" moment from the forum clowns......
Clowns provide a service, you on the other hand.
2Th:1:4-9:
So that we ourselves glory in you in the churches of God for your patience and faith in all your persecutions and tribulations that ye endure:
Which is a manifest token of the righteous judgment of God,
that ye may be counted worthy of the kingdom of God,
for which ye also suffer:
Seeing it is a righteous thing with God to recompense tribulation to them that trouble you;
And to you who are troubled rest with us,
when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels,
In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God,
and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:
Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord,
and from the glory of his power;
So that we ourselves glory in you in the churches of God for your patience and faith in all your persecutions and tribulations that ye endure:
Which is a manifest token of the righteous judgment of God,
that ye may be counted worthy of the kingdom of God,
for which ye also suffer:
Seeing it is a righteous thing with God to recompense tribulation to them that trouble you;
And to you who are troubled rest with us,
when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels,
In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God,
and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:
Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord,
and from the glory of his power;
"Do I take any pleasure in the death of the wicked? declares the Sovereign Lord." (Ezekiel 18:23 NIV)
"For I take no pleasure in the death of anyone, declares the Sovereign Lord." (Ezekiel 18:32 NIV)
"As surely as I live, declares the Sovereign Lord, I take no pleasure in the death of the wicked..."(Ezekiel 33:11 NIV)
God takes no pleasure in the death of anyone, LL. So too, His people.
You have to be referencing yourself as you are the only one that didn't understand it.Another "DUH?" moment from the forum clowns......