Russian bear pokes Canada - what will Trudeau do?

[davesmom]

Yeah, the more I think about it and the more I wish success for Justin, I think it's like pissing in the ocean while hoping to watch the water rise. For all Pierre's faults, I think Justin lacks the guts and toughness that made his father partially successful. You summed it up nicely in "nice guys finish last" Just hoping now that Justin isn't as nice as he seems. Good post.

I see your point about wishing Trudeau success. The trouble is, his success will put policies in place which will do a lot of damage before people toss him. We will be left with a tremendous debt load, tens of thousands of refugees draining the systems and rebelling against our laws, a useless military and a sagging economy.
PET bulldozed his policies through be making his caucus vote the way he told them. The majority of Canadians still want the death penalty reinstated. The Official French language is costing us millions of dollars to promote a dying language. Then there's the metric system! Our largest trading partner doesn't use it and it is still causing problems in every facet of life not to mention smaller amounts of good for higher prices.
Remember the Gimli Glider incident? That was directly caused by switching to metric and almost cost a lot of lives. Then the pilot who was a hero of the highest order got suspended and decommissioned (although he was later reinstated).
Remember how PET's government paid people to install fiberglass insulation and later paid them to have it removed?
Yeah, lots and lots of damage and unnecessary cost to the taxpayers in many respects.

 

[JLM]

I see your point about wishing Trudeau success. The trouble is, his success will put policies in place which will do a lot of damage before people toss him. We will be left with a tremendous debt load, tens of thousands of refugees draining the systems and rebelling against our laws, a useless military and a sagging economy.
PET bulldozed his policies through be making his caucus vote the way he told them. The majority of Canadians still want the death penalty reinstated. The Official French language is costing us millions of dollars to promote a dying language. Then there's the metric system! Our largest trading partner doesn't use it and it is still causing problems in every facet of life not to mention smaller amounts of good for higher prices.
Remember the Gimli Glider incident? That was directly caused by switching to metric and almost cost a lot of lives. Then the pilot who was a hero of the highest order got suspended and decommissioned (although he was later reinstated).
Remember how PET's government paid people to install fiberglass insulation and later paid them to have it removed?
Yeah, lots and lots of damage and unnecessary cost to the taxpayers in many respects.

If I didn't know better I'd say you have been copying the high lights of my numerous posts over the years. Good to see there's at two people in this country who are perfectly sensible.

 

[AnnaG]

Us Brits are a warrior race.

That should be "WE Brits are a warrior breed". Mr. BCSE. Brits are not a race. Brits are hybrids. Heinz 57s.

RUSSIA

"Us Brits are a warrior race". eerrrmmmmm Those are pics of RUSSIAN military stuff, not Brit stuff. Feckin hysterically funny.

What's that make them? Good at killing people?

No, just illiterate.

 

[JLM]

We will be left with a tremendous debt load, tens of thousands of refugees draining the systems and rebelling against our laws, a useless military and a sagging economy.

I definitely hear your concerns and agree whole heartedly. I have a hunch most of those refugees won't materialize, unless he has a Minister of Immigration who is absolutely stupid and doesn't set rigid standards. For the plan to even work at all we have to import skilled people for the jobs we are short of like nurses and doctors. We have to be importing people who will be paying taxes right off the bat. We certainly don't need the drones and parasites.

 

[AnnaG]

I see your point about wishing Trudeau success. The trouble is, his success will put policies in place which will do a lot of damage before people toss him. We will be left with a tremendous debt load, tens of thousands of refugees draining the systems and rebelling against our laws, a useless military and a sagging economy.

Hey, look on the bright side. We might get a brand new Charter out of it all.

PET bulldozed his policies through be making his caucus vote the way he told them. The majority of Canadians still want the death penalty reinstated. The Official French language is costing us millions of dollars to promote a dying language. Then there's the metric system! Our largest trading partner doesn't use it and it is still causing problems in every facet of life not to mention smaller amounts of good for higher prices.

And it is not even REAL French. It is Acadian (a mix of French, English, and native languages along with some mutations of French itself).
Well, the US does use the metric system in some way. But the public seems to be melodramatically sentimental about the US Customary system.

Remember the Gimli Glider incident? That was directly caused by switching to metric and almost cost a lot of lives. Then the pilot who was a hero of the highest order got suspended and decommissioned (although he was later reinstated).
Remember how PET's government paid people to install fiberglass insulation and later paid them to have it removed?
Yeah, lots and lots of damage and unnecessary cost to the taxpayers in many respects.

Actually, the Gimli Glider incident was "On July 23, 1983, flight 143 was cruising at 12,500 metres (41,000 ft) over Red Lake, Ontario. The aircraft's cockpit warning system sounded, indicating a fuel pressure problem on the aircraft's left side. Assuming a fuel pump had failed[3] the pilots turned it off,[3] since gravity should feed fuel to the aircraft's two engines. The aircraft's fuel gauges were inoperative because of an electronic fault which was indicated on the instrument panel and airplane logs (the pilots believed the flight was legal with this malfunction). The flight management computer indicated that there was still sufficient fuel for the flight; but the initial fuel load had been measured in pounds instead of kilograms. A few moments later, a second fuel pressure alarm sounded for the right engine, prompting the pilots to divert to Winnipeg. Within seconds, the left engine failed and they began preparing for a single-engine landing."
It was the fault of a fueler who was not cautious, or was ignorant about the metric system, not the fault of Peeair or the metric system itself.

 

[darkbeaver]

What will Israel do other than try and save the downed pilot?

BREAKING UPDATE: ISRAEL BOMBING SYRIA AS IDF GROUND FORCES CLASH WITH ISIS TO RESCUE PILOT

It seems like a staged production. Note the expressed reason was to prevent an horrific barbaric execution of an Israeli pilot when Israel has been supplying arm and supplies to ISIS as well as providing medical expertise for at least a year. Israel wants to appear to be against the very mercenaries it trained and commands in combination with Jordan Saudis and NATO. The story stinks. Misreal stinks.

 

[AnnaG]

And Israel rescuing some pilot has what to do with Russia poking Canuckville?

 

[MHz]

Feckin hysterically funny.

Obviously we only get the cream of the crop from the UK posting here.

 

[AnnaG]

Obviously we only get the cream of the crop from the UK posting here.

hahaha Apparently.

 

[MHz]

And Israel rescuing some pilot has what to do with Russia poking Canuckville?

Didn't we just commit to not helping anybody in Syria? Do you think the pilot jumped out of a perfectly good plane? It would be Syria mounting the rescue mission that sees the pilot returned to Israel, what would Israel do concerning their current support for ISIS rather than against them? If you are going to follow the chessboard over there you should know who the players really are. All the raids by Israel so far in Syria are to help ISIS rather than battle against them.

 

[AnnaG]

Didn't we just commit to not helping anybody in Syria? Do you think the pilot jumped out of a perfectly good plane? It would be Syria mounting the rescue mission that sees the pilot returned to Israel, what would Israel do concerning their current support for ISIS rather than against them? If you are going to follow the chessboard over there you should know who the players really are. All the raids by Israel so far in Syria are to help ISIS rather than battle against them.

I think you are posting in the wrong thread, hon.
This thread is about "Russian bear pokes Canada - what will Trudeau do?".

http://www.torontosun.com/2015/10/22/russian-bear-pokes-canada---what-will-trudeau-do

 

[MHz]

It seems like a staged production. Note the expressed reason was to prevent an horrific barbaric execution of an Israeli pilot when Israel has been supplying arm and supplies to ISIS as well as providing medical expertise for at least a year. Israel wants to appear to be against the very mercenaries it trained and commands in combination with Jordan Saudis and NATO. The story stinks. Misreal stinks.

The tale would be better if we were shown what places were actually hit. (probably as harmful as any US bombing has been against ISIS. When the knife in the back comes they kill them so there are no witnesses.
As a PR thingy they could have just ejected somebody to show that Russia was an aggressor rather than defender and the shooting was really about Syria going after the decoy and Israel trying to prevent that before he can be handed back to (or rescued) to Israel.
The fake rescue by the US in Iraq would be the story that sets this one up that 'rescue missions' are humanitarian in nature rather than acts of war. This could also show that Israel has lost control of the air space but they are showing that they will just use heavy armor to 'get the job done'. Russia would be in the 'wrong' to shoot up something that is a 'rescue mission'.

 

[darkbeaver]

And Israel rescuing some pilot has what to do with Russia poking Canuckville?

Well you will note the close proximity of the Misreali military to the Syrian border which is within the declared sphere of Russian operations in its legal military effort in behalf of the oppressed Syrian people. Misrael and Canada have agreements of mutual aid in quite a few spheres the Canadian public has not been a party to. Getting back to your question, Russia has or will be accused of poking Misrael which is the same as poking Canada. Look to see the story in the Canadian presstitute rags in the coming days. Maybe Trudeau will be asked to have words with Vlad the Impaler.

The tale would be better if we were shown what places were actually hit. (probably as harmful as any US bombing has been against ISIS. When the knife in the back comes they kill them so there are no witnesses.
As a PR thingy they could have just ejected somebody to show that Russia was an aggressor rather than defender and the shooting was really about Syria going after the decoy and Israel trying to prevent that before he can be handed back to (or rescued) to Israel.
The fake rescue by the US in Iraq would be the story that sets this one up that 'rescue missions' are humanitarian in nature rather than acts of war. This could also show that Israel has lost control of the air space but they are showing that they will just use heavy armor to 'get the job done'. Russia would be in the 'wrong' to shoot up something that is a 'rescue mission'.

I haven't seen any conformation of the initial news release.

 

[AnnaG]

Oh. Well, I suppose the egg I had for breaky had something to do with a person buying toothpaste in New Guinea, too. But I will not attempt at following the convolutions of that path.

 

[darkbeaver]

Oh. Well, I suppose the egg I had for breaky had something to do with a person buying toothpaste in New Guinea, too. But I will not attempt at following the convolutions of that path.

You don't seem at all concerned with the dastardly deed of downing one of the chosens death delivering birds of prey and the mutual defence agreements signed by Harpler with the Misreali scum. Anything done against Misrael is done against Canada. All you got to do is wait for the signs.

 

[davesmom]

Hey, look on the bright side. We might get a brand new Charter out of it all.
And it is not even REAL French. It is Acadian (a mix of French, English, and native languages along with some mutations of French itself).
Well, the US does use the metric system in some way. But the public seems to be melodramatically sentimental about the US Customary system.
Actually, the Gimli Glider incident was "On July 23, 1983, flight 143 was cruising at 12,500 metres (41,000 ft) over Red Lake, Ontario. The aircraft's cockpit warning system sounded, indicating a fuel pressure problem on the aircraft's left side. Assuming a fuel pump had failed[3] the pilots turned it off,[3] since gravity should feed fuel to the aircraft's two engines. The aircraft's fuel gauges were inoperative because of an electronic fault which was indicated on the instrument panel and airplane logs (the pilots believed the flight was legal with this malfunction). The flight management computer indicated that there was still sufficient fuel for the flight; but the initial fuel load had been measured in pounds instead of kilograms. A few moments later, a second fuel pressure alarm sounded for the right engine, prompting the pilots to divert to Winnipeg. Within seconds, the left engine failed and they began preparing for a single-engine landing."
It was the fault of a fueler who was not cautious, or was ignorant about the metric system, not the fault of Peeair or the metric system itself.

I respectfully disagree. All airlines were refuelling in pounds. It was a dumb move to go metric. I may be wrong but I believe pounds are still used in fuelling planes.
I was living in Winnipeg when the Gimli Glider incident occurred. It was a tense time. Most of Winnipeg residents spent the whole time with their ears glued to the radio.

 

[B00Mer]