Trudeau pulling troops out of ISIS mission and accepting more refugees

damngrumpy

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First of all ask who are the refugees? Oh they are all Muslims cause?
Oh they are Syrian, Afghani Iraqi and so on. Just because they come
from there does not make them anymore one denomination than it
does Liberal or Conservative.
Many or most in flight are Kurds they are not Muslims
Many are intellectuals and educated people who respect
the laws and don't fit in with the insanity around them.
Lumping people into one group is not a measure of who is coming.
Yes some will be Muslims but if they are the well educated and progressive
like Calgary's Mayor we can certainly use more of them as they can help
to educate the ones let in by the that are not progressive. The former Tory
government let Muslims in too. Is it Muslims we are against here or just
bad people?
Remember if you don't have any money you can't really get out as money is
the key that means those with means are the ones leaving
 

Walter

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Why fight them there when we can import them and fight here, it's a shorter commute.
 

MHz

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We were aiding ISIS in Syria and Iran, that is why we get to take some in under the 'refugee disguise'. You know like we did in the past.

 

damngrumpy

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I am not a conservative but I do recognize we should have involvement in the region.
There are problems when you support moderate opposition they get better conditions
and switch sides that has already happened. We should maintain support for the
Syrian Government and kill all enemies ISIS and those destabilizing the region.
No current leadership is not made up of nice people. Look at what happened when
America turned Iraq into a disturbed human ant hill. How stable is it now?
 

EagleSmack

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I am not a conservative but I do recognize we should have involvement in the region.

Dude... trust me... you're a conservative.

Look at what happened when
America turned Iraq into a disturbed human ant hill. How stable is it now?

And let's not forget what happened when Canada turned Libya into a disturbed ant hill and assisted in the assassination of it's leader.
 

Dixie Cup

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Hopefully we cut down on combat forces even further and save more of the taxprayers hard earned dollar.



Well if Justin is anything like his father, that's exactly what he'll do. I remember my hubby going out on exercises and he said they had to go "bang" with their guns because they didn't have access to any training ammunitions. Gotta laugh now at that, but at the time, it wasn't funny.


JMHO

I am not a conservative but I do recognize we should have involvement in the region.
There are problems when you support moderate opposition they get better conditions
and switch sides that has already happened. We should maintain support for the
Syrian Government and kill all enemies ISIS and those destabilizing the region.
No current leadership is not made up of nice people. Look at what happened when
America turned Iraq into a disturbed human ant hill. How stable is it now?



For once I agree with you! Bombing, while in decline, only accomplishes so much. But people are so against putting "boots on the ground" I doubt if Trudeau will even consider it. Look what happened when the media party and the opposition found out that we had "advisors" there - you'd think it was the whole Cdn Armed Forces that invaded. So while your suggestion is good, I doubt if it'll happen. Trudeau would rather send coats!


JMHO
 

pgs

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First of all ask who are the refugees? Oh they are all Muslims cause?
Oh they are Syrian, Afghani Iraqi and so on. Just because they come
from there does not make them anymore one denomination than it
does Liberal or Conservative.
Many or most in flight are Kurds they are not Muslims
Many are intellectuals and educated people who respect
the laws and don't fit in with the insanity around them.
Lumping people into one group is not a measure of who is coming.
Yes some will be Muslims but if they are the well educated and progressive
like Calgary's Mayor we can certainly use more of them as they can help
to educate the ones let in by the that are not progressive. The former Tory
government let Muslims in too. Is it Muslims we are against here or just
bad people?
Remember if you don't have any money you can't really get out as money is
the key that means those with means are the ones leaving
I hear that 90% of these nice people are young men aged between 15 and 25 , were will they find their women ?
 

Curious Cdn

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Well if Justin is anything like his father, that's exactly what he'll do. I remember my hubby going out on exercises and he said they had to go "bang" with their guns because they didn't have access to any training ammunitions. Gotta laugh now at that, but at the time, it wasn't funny.


JMHO





For once I agree with you! Bombing, while in decline, only accomplishes so much. But people are so against putting "boots on the ground" I doubt if Trudeau will even consider it. Look what happened when the media party and the opposition found out that we had "advisors" there - you'd think it was the whole Cdn Armed Forces that invaded. So while your suggestion is good, I doubt if it'll happen. Trudeau would rather send coats!


JMHO
I was in Mr. Trudeau's Navy ... ships welded to the jetty .
 

davesmom

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First of all ask who are the refugees? Oh they are all Muslims cause?
Oh they are Syrian, Afghani Iraqi and so on. Just because they come
from there does not make them anymore one denomination than it
does Liberal or Conservative.
Many or most in flight are Kurds they are not Muslims
Many are intellectuals and educated people who respect
the laws and don't fit in with the insanity around them.
Lumping people into one group is not a measure of who is coming.
Yes some will be Muslims but if they are the well educated and progressive
like Calgary's Mayor we can certainly use more of them as they can help
to educate the ones let in by the that are not progressive. The former Tory
government let Muslims in too. Is it Muslims we are against here or just
bad people?
Remember if you don't have any money you can't really get out as money is
the key that means those with means are the ones leaving


Germany, where the majority of refugees has been taken in, reports that most of the refugees are young men without any skills. (I'll bet they all know how to handle a gun!)
And - as you ought to know, most people of the Mid-east nations are Muslim. Muslims who LOVE to slaughter minorities and each other. Kurd embrace a sect of Islam, therefore they ARE Muslims.
If there are skilled and educated refugees, they acquired their skills and education in a Western country. The Mid-eastern countries have nothing to offer their citizens except bloodshed. When have they ever contributed to science, medicine or any other worthy enterprise? When have they ever had a sports team or a musical band? What have they ever done besides fight and follow bunch of nonsensical rules that Mohammed demanded of them?
You need to learn a bit more about Muslims and their insane dedication to their religion which is completely incompatible with the Constitutions of Western countries.

Well if Justin is anything like his father, that's exactly what he'll do. I remember my hubby going out on exercises and he said they had to go "bang" with their guns because they didn't have access to any training ammunitions. Gotta laugh now at that, but at the time, it wasn't funny.


JMHO




I know what you mean! I was married to an airman stationed at Moose Jaw during PET's reign when the Liberals decimated the armed forces.. My husband was a highly trained radar technician and there was nothing to work on. Most of the men sat around and played cards all their shift, took turns on the switchboard and the odd time got guard duty. What airplanes they had weren't safe to fly in, they were so decrepit!
Hubby got out as soon as his term was up. He said he couldn't take the boredom any longer and there was no future there anyway.
 

JLM

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First of all ask who are the refugees? Oh they are all Muslims cause?
Oh they are Syrian, Afghani Iraqi and so on. Just because they come
from there does not make them anymore one denomination than it
does Liberal or Conservative.
Many or most in flight are Kurds they are not Muslims
Many are intellectuals and educated people who respect
the laws and don't fit in with the insanity around them.
Lumping people into one group is not a measure of who is coming.
Yes some will be Muslims but if they are the well educated and progressive
like Calgary's Mayor we can certainly use more of them as they can help
to educate the ones let in by the that are not progressive. The former Tory
government let Muslims in too. Is it Muslims we are against here or just
bad people?
Remember if you don't have any money you can't really get out as money is
the key that means those with means are the ones leaving

You hit the nail on the head there Grumpy, no doubt there are some very fine and skilled competent people and some real low life criminals. That's why I speak out about importing 25,000 of them in two months. It might take that long to do a background check on one person and before you can import any they all should be checked. After all you want the best ones.
 

Curious Cdn

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Not only is it only the planes, the planes are a relatively low risk way of showing that we are doing something. Has anyone seen a strategy or end game associated with bombing random targets of opportunity, every day? What kind of military strategy that? It sure won't win a war.