Alberta granted Omar Khadr bail

[IdRatherBeSkiing]

Not many 13 year olds get a say in where they go when their parents decide to take them there. That includes out of the country. They should not have been allowed to take a kid there. That family was known to have connections to terrorists at that time.

Yet I believe his parents have not faced any consequences for their actions. That also seems wrong.

 

[JLM]

Just truthfully answer one question, Capt. Do you really think an act of war by a minor deserves a worse punishment than a juvenile gets for committing first degree murder while engaging in a capital crime?

 

[Liberalman]

As soon as Khadr released on bail this Dog will get him and get him American justice


www.youtube.com/watch?v=OvgL__VUhuk

 

[captain morgan]

First of all you responded with "wow" because you were so overwhelmed

Overwhelmed?

Quite honestly, I responded with 'wow' because I seldom hear such arrogant statements

And second we're NOT in Afghanistan,

Memo to JLM:

Afghanistan is where Omar Khadr murdered Cpl Speer in addition to fabricating and planting many IEDs and collecting 'souvenirs' of the dead combatants

.... Maybe you missed that newscast

Afghanistan isn't mapping out his future,

Of course they aren't, you, personally have issued the decree that Afghani morals and ethics aren't up to your high standards

Just truthfully answer one question, Capt. Do you really think an act of war by a minor deserves a worse punishment than a juvenile gets for committing first degree murder while engaging in a capital crime?

Yes.

Let me ask you this question: Had Khadr been engaged in additional activities like rape followed by murdering a victim on a premeditated basis, would you find it in your black heart to absolve him as he was not of the age you deem as being that of being held fully responsible?

 

[JLM]

Let me ask you this question: Had Khadr been engaged in additional activities like rape followed by murdering a victim on a premeditated basis, would you find it in your black heart to absolve him as he was not of the age you deem as being that of being held fully responsible?

I'm not making a judgment as to whether any of it is right or wrong - I'm just pointing out there should consistency. It seem to matter not what crime a juvenile commits- they could murder 100 people and yet won't spend more than 7 years in prison. Look at the young girl in Medicine who had her boy friend kill her parents and a sibling 7 or 8 years ago. She's now back on the street. Anyway it's a moot point, war is a different "ballgame".

Quite honestly, I responded with 'wow' because I seldom hear such arrogant statements

Where was the arrogance? I was just pointing out your short comings, which most members of the forum are cognizant of.

 

[B00Mer]

Well now that he is here.. lets not forget with this scum stands for..

His family used him once... they will use him again.. and then we can say to these bleed heart liberals; "We told'ya so!!"

 

[gerryh]

Just love how you all go ape shyte over some one that was a kid through all this. Nothing on all those adults that were released from gitmo to end up back in Afghanistan killing allies. No, nothing concerning that. Just bang on some one that was captured over 13 yrs ago when he was a 15 yr old kid.

 

[B00Mer]

Just love how you all go ape shyte over some one that was a kid through all this. Nothing on all those adults that were released from gitmo to end up back in Afghanistan killing allies. No, nothing concerning that. Just bang on some one that was captured over 13 yrs ago when he was a 15 yr old kid.

Well you just proved my point.. Thank you..

BTW, he's now 23 years old.. he ain't no boy anymore, he lived with the worst of the worst in Gitmo.. I'm sure they taught him to Love Westerners 'to death.'

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[JLM]

Well you just proved my point.. Thank you..

BTW, he's now 23 years old.. he ain't no boy anymore, he lived with the worst of the worst in Gitmo.. I'm sure they taught him to Love Westerners 'to death.'

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Try about 28 years old. All that stuff happened back in 2002.

 

[gerryh]

Well you just proved my point.. Thank you..

BTW, he's now 23 years old.. he ain't no boy anymore, he lived with the worst of the worst in Gitmo.. I'm sure they taught him to Love Westerners 'to death.'

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Btw he's 28.


And why did a 15 yr old child live with the worst of the worst. He should have been rehabilitated, not set up to be more indoctrinated. I guess you get what you want.

 

[B00Mer]

Try about 28 years old. All that stuff happened back in 2002.

You're not helping your case.. so you agree he's an adult (28 years old) capable of causing or inflicting harm on others, and you agree in 2002 he was groomed by radical Muslims in Gitmo to hate westerners.

BTW, Omar was 15 years and 10 months.. so lets say 16 years old when Captured by the USA.. he was held in Gitmo for 11 years.

How much more radicalization does one need..

JLM, why don't you offer to give him a place to live..

 

[captain morgan]

I'm not making a judgment as to whether any of it is right or wrong - I'm just pointing out there should consistency. It seem to matter not what crime a juvenile commits- they could murder 100 people and yet won't spend more than 7 years in prison. Look at the young girl in Medicine who had her boy friend kill her parents and a sibling 7 or 8 years ago. She's now back on the street. Anyway it's a moot point, war is a different "ballgame".

I do appreciate your comment and must take a dose of my own medicine (see below), however, somehow the Khadr circumstance sits in a bad way for me.

The example you mention of the Medicine Hat is very good. That crime was also heinous, in many ways far worse. All said, I am not supportive of the penalty that she received (under the Court's assumption that she did not actively participate in the actual killings)

Where was the arrogance? I was just pointing out your short comings, which most members of the forum are cognizant of.

Fair enough... For me, while i vehemently disagree with some of the select practices and laws in Afghanistan (and other Middle East nations), it remains a recognized nation with it's own laws of the land.

While you or I may think of those laws (and punishments ) are not consistent, fair or possibly reprehensible is irrelevant, they are still the laws of that land

 

[gerryh]

How much more radicalization does one need..

JLM, why don't you offer to give him a place to live..

I don't know, how much more Radicalzed do you want him to be? Most of it was done because of what the u.s. Did with him and it seems all with your approval.

How about YOU offer him a place to stay. That way you can ensure that he has been taught everything you have wanted him to be taught.

 

[JLM]

You're not helping your case.. so you agree he's an adult (28 years old) capable of causing or inflicting harm on others, and you agree in 2002 he was groomed by radical Muslims in Gitmo to hate westerners.

BTW, Omar was 15 years and 10 months.. so lets say 16 years old when Captured by the USA.. he was held in Gitmo for 11 years.

How much more radicalization does one need..

JLM, why don't you offer to give him a place to live..

Got a houseful here already. Umm maybe I am helping my case. 28 just puts light on how long he has already been incarcerated (over 12 years)- the most heinous murderers, rapists and thugs seldom serve more than 7 years for committing crimes at age 15.

I do appreciate your comment and must take a dose of my own medicine (see below), however, somehow the Khadr circumstance sits in a bad way for me.

The example you mention of the Medicine Hat is very good. That crime was also heinous, in many ways far worse. All said, I am not supportive of the penalty that she received (under the Court's assumption that she did not actively participate in the actual killings)



Fair enough... For me, while i vehemently disagree with some of the select practices and laws in Afghanistan (and other Middle East nations), it remains a recognized nation with it's own laws of the land.

While you or I may think of those laws (and punishments ) are not consistent, fair or possibly reprehensible is irrelevant, they are still the laws of that land

It's O.K. Capt. I may well turn out to be wrong, as we don't know for sure he won't reoffend. I like to give him credit for the possibility of a dreadful upbringing and would like to see him given a second chance (under strict supervision for a few years)

 

[B00Mer]

I don't know, how much more Radicalzed do you want him to be? Most of it was done because of what the u.s. Did with him and it seems all with your approval.

How about YOU offer him a place to stay. That way you can ensure that he has been taught everything you have wanted him to be taught.

Why would I take him... I'm saying leave him rot in Prison.. (being he's back in Canada)

Got a houseful here already. Umm maybe I am helping my case. 28 just puts light on how long he has already been incarcerated (over 12 years)- the most heinous murderers, rapists and thugs seldom serve more than 7 years for committing crimes at age 15.

Depending on where he committed the crime.. let's pretend he did it in TEXAS.. after all he killed a US Citizen.. shouldn't it be US justice.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=NRmmIVnjqfQ

 

[JLM]

Why would I take him... I'm saying leave him rot in Prison.. (being he's back in Canada)

That way everybody loses. Isn't society capable of taking a boy who is off the track at age 15 and getting him back on it? The alternative is to let him rot for the next 60 years at public expense. Who gains from that?

 

[B00Mer]

That way everybody loses. Isn't society capable of taking a boy who is off the track at age 15 and getting him back on it? The alternative is to let him rot for the next 60 years at public expense. Who gains from that?

...and when this Islamic Nut Bar is set loose on the general public, kills a few more innocent people.. then we toss him back in jail until he's 80 years old.. Who gains from that?

BTW, for once I don't mind my tax money going to keeping this Islamist in prison.

 

[JLM]

The problem is there's quite a few of them. Don't think we have quite enough space for all of them.

 

[B00Mer]

The problem is there's quite a few of them. Don't think we have quite enough space for all of them.

Solution..

 

[gerryh]

Why would I take him... I'm saying leave him rot in Prison.. (being he's back in Canada)

Because, by your own admission, you are one of the reasons he is what he is and knows what he knows.