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EagleSmack

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Yes, petros. One of the great scandals that emerged from the Ferguson mess is the way the towns in St. Louis County use limitations on court/administrative office time, inaccurate and confusing instructions, and plain old falsification of records to pile fine on fee on fine on the poor of St. Louis County. The state legislature has taken up the issue and is legislating reforms.

I just pay my parking fines.
 

Tecumsehsbones

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How would you know,
Because I read, and because I've witnessed so-called communism (actually authoritarian socialism) personally.

How 'bout you?

you live in the elite world don't you?
I do now. Of course, in your "mind" (I use the word incredibly loosely) that means I always have, right?

(in theory that form would make you and I as bringing home the same amount of money every year while our contribution to the 'community' has the same gaps that exist today. That would elevate me and take away the money you don't use, so far I don't see that as being a flaw really)
I don't see your incoherence as a flaw. It certainly brightens up the board.

Since the elite hold the cash and the welfare guys are stuck in a place that is worse than a dead end job why not take advantage of that.
Believe me, I do!

The ones with jobs and above are the ones that can afford to be entertained so do a series called 'burnt bridges' and take the story of somebody on welfare and how they came to be in that position as it isn't in any career guide. You probably wouldn't even have to tweak the stories very much to have it cheer up the dead end job guy and a few chuckles from the producers as they look through the potential scripts. Rather than them get the bucks the one the story is about would get some royalities based on how many views his segment gets. Lots of views it is a ticket out of the poorhouse in that you get a home and such thing an not needing a job to pay for it.
Dafuq?

The rich man who causes his own fall would be the entertainment for the ones already on welfare as that transition isn't always greeted as being a reason for a high-5.
I would certainly expect you to high-five at anything bad that happened to me, or anybody else. Your seething hatred of everything is as apparent as your clinical insanity.
 

MHz

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Because I read, and because I've witnessed so-called communism (actually authoritarian socialism) personally.
Locally or nationally? Nationally it has never existed. Stalin and Mao both had an 'elite' and then everybody was the same if they were below that. That isn't any different than England and the rest of Europe in 1500AD. The ones who would fight communism to the bitter end is the elite because their standard of living would go down. (or so the story goes, in truth the money they can't spend on themselves in a year should be given to somebody who is a little behind in what gets done with money in a year)

How 'bout you?
About every 3 years whatever I have acquired seems to get taken away, after awhile permanency seems mostly like an illusion. It goes back to when I was 3 so that is about 20 examples. I've burned more later than it starting out that way but I'm not really looking at that as being any real accomplishment when it is all said and done. If calamity sells I should be richer than I am today.

I do now. Of course, in your "mind" (I use the word incredibly loosely) that means I always have, right?
Compared to your narrow little hallway version I'm not feeling any threat other than you getting confused. What makes it's in as a permanent guest still has to pass a few filters before they get into the 'big room'. My live is what a sloppy perfectionist deserves so that is the path that led me here, if here is also where others are then how they got here should make me happier or sadder depending on the parameters in the story.

I don't see your incoherence as a flaw. It certainly brightens up the board.
lol, if I could intentionally design that in I would be a richer man in terms of material things. Perhaps the 'flashes' you get cause that and if you were exposed to the 'full version' they wouldn't be there. My Grandson keeps telling me that I spoil his dog when it stays with me and I don't have the heart to tell him his dog loves me because of it and that is why he feels about me the same way the dog does. Should I explain all that to him or just keep it as a reason to not get too excited over the issue and know that in the end he will most likely spoil the people he runs into, rather than ****ing them over.

Believe me, I do!
I was meaning you get entertained and the dead end guy gets a preview of life without a job the poor guy gets a way out as that would be at the top of his 'things to do list'.
I have a couple of brothers that are *******s so it isn't like I can't terminate a bad relationship. That would be a few stories right there and the one with a gravel pit and international business affairs would be the one that would get the most votes from you over the 'liar and bully' sodes where the Hatfiels and McCoys would be the daily trend. If I said 'older brother' would that tell you who won most of the 'battles'? Things that don't make the table at family holidays would be 'interesting' in the 'burnt bridges' section.
Since they won't be shows they might make a topic at a chat site if I ever find one. (in that the format is video and voice based and is more like FOX as a 'phone in site' and the 'headlines become the topics and the 'readers' (rather than the advertisers) determine if the stoty lasts a long time or a short time.The initial list would have to be on the 'long side' and grow from there.

Thoughts for a new TV series that comes with real-life stories where the names have to be changed.
Lots of possibilities to become the new 'Twilight Zone' series but without the traditional 'zombie'. Even just that theme would bee them and 'alive' people being in the same place at the same time and the differences would be based on the you-tube series that is a win/fail record of actual people and in the series 20 are used as events in a 30 min show that might be 'teaching aids' in a subliminal way that is helpful and entertaining at the same time.
If that is an example of what is available then that is the format that should be 'donated' if you are trying to 'catch a lot of fish'. It may have taken 'us' 5,000 years to come up with 'a plan' and that would be like having a global society

I would certainly expect you to high-five at anything bad that happened to me, or anybody else. Your seething hatred of everything is as apparent as your clinical insanity.
I think that one should be a story about you.
 

Tecumsehsbones

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Locally or nationally? Nationally it has never existed.
Nationally.

Stalin and Mao both had an 'elite' and then everybody was the same if they were below that. That isn't any different than England and the rest of Europe in 1500AD. The ones who would fight communism to the bitter end is the elite because their standard of living would go down. (or so the story goes, in truth the money they can't spend on themselves in a year should be given to somebody who is a little behind in what gets done with money in a year)
But they were socialist countries. You can tell coz they said so.


About every 3 years whatever I have acquired seems to get taken away, after awhile permanency seems mostly like an illusion. It goes back to when I was 3 so that is about 20 examples. I've burned more later than it starting out that way but I'm not really looking at that as being any real accomplishment when it is all said and done. If calamity sells I should be richer than I am today.
What does that have to do with whether you've ever seen authoritarian socialism in action?


Compared to your narrow little hallway version I'm not feeling any threat other than you getting confused. What makes it's in as a permanent guest still has to pass a few filters before they get into the 'big room'. My live is what a sloppy perfectionist deserves so that is the path that led me here, if here is also where others are then how they got here should make me happier or sadder depending on the parameters in the story.
Gotta admit, I'm confused now.


lol, if I could intentionally design that in I would be a richer man in terms of material things. Perhaps the 'flashes' you get cause that and if you were exposed to the 'full version' they wouldn't be there. My Grandson keeps telling me that I spoil his dog when it stays with me and I don't have the heart to tell him his dog loves me because of it and that is why he feels about me the same way the dog does. Should I explain all that to him or just keep it as a reason to not get too excited over the issue and know that in the end he will most likely spoil the people he runs into, rather than ****ing them over.
Could be. Since I can't make head nor tail of what you're babbling about, I can't really say it's impossible.


I was meaning you get entertained and the dead end guy gets a preview of life without a job the poor guy gets a way out as that would be at the top of his 'things to do list'.
Sounds good to me.

I have a couple of brothers that are *******s so it isn't like I can't terminate a bad relationship.
So do they.

That would be a few stories right there and the one with a gravel pit and international business affairs would be the one that would get the most votes from you over the 'liar and bully' sodes where the Hatfiels and McCoys would be the daily trend. If I said 'older brother' would that tell you who won most of the 'battles'? Things that don't make the table at family holidays would be 'interesting' in the 'burnt bridges' section.
Since they won't be shows they might make a topic at a chat site if I ever find one. (in that the format is video and voice based and is more like FOX as a 'phone in site' and the 'headlines become the topics and the 'readers' (rather than the advertisers) determine if the stoty lasts a long time or a short time.The initial list would have to be on the 'long side' and grow from there.
Still not really seeing what this has to do with authoritarian socialism, but I guess it made you happy.


Thoughts for a new TV series that comes with real-life stories where the names have to be changed.
Lots of possibilities to become the new 'Twilight Zone' series but without the traditional 'zombie'. Even just that theme would bee them and 'alive' people being in the same place at the same time and the differences would be based on the you-tube series that is a win/fail record of actual people and in the series 20 are used as events in a 30 min show that might be 'teaching aids' in a subliminal way that is helpful and entertaining at the same time.
If that is an example of what is available then that is the format that should be 'donated' if you are trying to 'catch a lot of fish'. It may have taken 'us' 5,000 years to come up with 'a plan' and that would be like having a global society


I think that one should be a story about you.[/QUOTE]
 

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But the fact remains that once these reforms took place, the standard of living improved, the quality of life has increased, and longevity is greater than ever. It is a good bet that if these social safety valves did not exist all of these things would be greatly diminished. And if the corresponding programs which benefit businesses were removed as well, the economic consequences would be far more disastrous.

Once again, agreed but the fact remains that all of these benefits are the result of a strong economy and society having the financial wherewithal to fund the programs.

As mentioned earlier, observe what changes to the social security programs will occur in Greece are likely to happen. This will be a direct result of the condition of that economy. This situation can easily occur in any nation
 

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more evidence of capitalism's failures

Wrong. A sign of capitalism's success. We have no obligation to support these people but choose to do so. Only because the majority make sufficient money to be able to share with those less fortunate.

How does someone end up destitute through no fault of their own?

Disease, injury, Born stupid.

Locally or nationally? Nationally it has never existed. Stalin and Mao both had an 'elite' and then everybody was the same if they were below that. That isn't any different than England and the rest of Europe in 1500AD. The ones who would fight communism to the bitter end is the elite because their standard of living would go down. (or so the story goes, in truth the money they can't spend on themselves in a year should be given to somebody who is a little behind in what gets done with money in a year)


Never yet met a person that couldn't spend at least as much as they make. SOme are just wise enough not to.
 

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Wrong. A sign of capitalism's success. We have no obligation to support these people but choose to do so. Only because the majority make sufficient money to be able to share with those less fortunate.
how is it a success? poverty is a success? forcing hard working people into 3 jobs for survival is a success? don't look down on other people simply because you got luckier than they did.
 

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Nationally.
Hudderites would be the closest example. In your area that would be the 'omish' but driving EY sportscars and such. The driver and the one parking it make the same amount of money per year. The parking guy likes cars and he gets to driver 100 a day and the owner gets it later for a 'reward' for whatever his career is. The parking guy also has a decent ride that gets from point a to b.
Lets use shoes as the dividing line, if you have some you are an 'elite' and if you don't you aren't. Lets say the goal would be that everyperson in the nation has a pair of shoes (and a roof and food) without lifting a finger. Has any nation past or present been that 'advanced'

Tecumsehsbones; said:
But they were socialist countries. You can tell coz they said so.
Same deal, if the planet is run by liars then the 'official version' has some flaws in it, most likely some very big flaws

Tecumsehsbones; said:
What does that have to do with whether you've ever seen authoritarian socialism in action?
Patterns are used as a training device. TV originally came with the ads at the top of the hour for 5 minutes, then at the top and bottom for 10 minutes in total. Then an ad every 15 minutes for a total of 20 minutes an hour. Now the ads and the programs are both used as training devices by the 'broadcasters' on the 'viewers'. Depending what message you wanted to promote (or demolish) the tools are there to do it. That they had to reduce a persons attention span down to less that 20 minutes is the low-blow part of the deal. If it can be shortened that easily then expanding it back to concentrate for 55 minutes out of every hour is going to have a person who appears to be a quicker learner and being able to remember the material.
If one player is in control the same method that works in one area might not be as effective with somebody else. (in terms of invisible manipulation)

Tecumsehsbones; said:
Gotta admit, I'm confused now.
My brain is an empty room to you. I admit there are some rooms like that but that is the beginning of the 'tour' rather than it being the whole tour. Religion is the only topic where I yap more than I listen. Other topics can all take some upgrades most likely. That doesn't mean having a bike that has the front wheel as the driving wheel is something from Oddville

Tecumsehsbones; said:
Could be. Since I can't make head nor tail of what you're babbling about, I can't really say it's impossible.
You have a hard time accepting that your version might be the one that needs the upgrade, either as a direct statement or as a story that is similar but about 'a friend'. There is a cure but you need to be a perfectionist to follow all the trails.

Tecumsehsbones; said:
Sounds good to me.
So how come the odds of it ever happening stands at about zero, . . . on a good day.

Tecumsehsbones; said:
So do they.
The ones being entertained are never the ones to call it quits first, more likely to lay blame where it doesn't belong through. Little brothers hardly ever get punished for knowing less than the older brother do, . . . combined . . . on a good day. lol
OMG I have a revenge streak in me a mile wide, this is going to be so much fun. (that is the right attitude yes??)

Tecumsehsbones; said:
Still not really seeing what this has to do with authoritarian socialism, but I guess it made you happy.
Running out of new TVX series that are a benefit to society, this is what it would take to make me a viewer again. That is one version, if you want to promote it as being the 'long term one' then a few example on a media that reaches the masses is used to promote the theme. Rather tahn Iran always being the bad guy it turns out that Iran and the Persian Gulf area is the best tourist attraction area in the world as the planes land at the beach or at the ski resorts about 3 hours away by car. For 80% of the visitors that is Iran, for the other 20% they spend months there at a time so it is a 'part of their job'.

Noon already, wow. Retirement is nothing like the pamphlet