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Climate Realists ‏@ClimateRealists GWPF Newsletter: Climate Fail: Antarctic Sea Ice Did Exact Opposite Of What Models Predicted




Climate Fail: Antarctic Sea Ice Did The Exact Opposite Of What Models Predicted
 
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Locutus said:
Steve Goddard ‏@SteveSGoddard In 1974, the National Academy of Sciences wanted to evacuate millions of people to save them from global cooling
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interesting how your go-to denier blogger "Goddard' elevates that "article" that states "certain scientists", that states "proposal"... to a statement that "NAS wanted to evacuate millions"! Oh my, Locutus! :mrgreen:

of course, it's always a ready-hand denier go-to: the media driven 70s global cooling meme! Of course, this paper (a meta study of publications) is an example of what the majority of scientists were actually saying/writing: the Peterson et al paper that most authoritatively speaks to what scientists of the 70's were (not)saying/(not)writing about global cooling:
An enduring popular myth suggests that in the 1970s the climate science community was predicting “global cooling” and an “imminent” ice age, an observation frequently used by those who would undermine what climate scientists say today about the prospect of global warming.

A review of the literature suggests that, to the contrary, greenhouse warming even then dominated scientists’ thinking about the most important forces shaping Earth’s climate on human time scales. More importantly than showing the falsehood of the myth, this review shows the important way scientists of the time built the foundation on which the cohesive enterprise of modern climate science now rests.
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Locutus said:
Steve Goddard ‏@SteveSGoddard Only you can stop global warming in New Mexico
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more... yet more from your favoured go-to guy... non-scientist, denier blogger extraordinaire with the fake name, 'Steve Goddard"!

imagine... snow at a ski-resort... in March yet!!! Why, I bet there's even fresh snow in California... yup, 30cm in the last few days at Mammoth! Who could believe it, hey Locutus?

 
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just released paper on the dramatic thinning Arctic sea-ice: University of Washington press release - here:
The results, published in The Cryosphere, show a thinning in the central Arctic Ocean of 65 percent between 1975 and 2012. September ice thickness, when the ice cover is at a minimum, is 85 percent thinner for the same 37-year stretch.

“The ice is thinning dramatically,” said lead author Ron Lindsay, a climatologist at the UW Applied Physics Laboratory. “We knew the ice was thinning, but we now have additional confirmation on how fast, and we can see that it’s not slowing down.”​
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of course, as I shown several times over, Antarctic sea-ice extent is a single-years presentation as, effectively, all Antarctic sea-ice melts from one year's freezing season to the next year's melting season. The following graph is a most illustrative account of the respective minimum sea-ice extents for the Arctic and Antarctic... that time when most of the sunlight reaches the respective poles: again, little trend could be shown with the Antarctic minimum since it (effectively) all melts year to year... there is no concept of "multi-year" ice-extent in the Antarctic (as is the case within the Arctic).

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just how cold was it for the U.S. Eastern deniers?
No state hit a new record — or even broke the top 10 — for the coldest season, thanks to the mild temperatures in December.

While the East Coast suffered, other parts of the country saw record warmth this winter. The cold air was centered directly over eastern North America, like a giant ice pack draped over the East Coast. Nearly all of the rest of the Northern Hemisphere was warmer than average during winter 2014-2015, according to NOAA.

For instance, surface temperatures across the United States continued to rise during the past three months. The average temperature for the lower 48 states during December, January and February was 34.3 F (1.3 C), which is 2.1 F (1.2 C) above the 20th-century average, according to NOAA.

The temperature rise took place because the East's brutal cold was offset by record warmth in the West. Arizona, California, Nevada, Utah and Washington each set new records for winter warmth this season. In California, the winter temperature was 1.5 F (0.8 C) above last year's record high, NOAA said. And five more western states, including Alaska, broke their top 10 records for winter warmth.
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1934 still stands?

No state hit a new record — or even broke the top 10 — for the coldest season, thanks to the mild temperatures in December
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Only 10 days in December are i n the winter season. Those 10 days did in the January/Feb wicked cold?

You gotta have screws loose to fall for this sh-t.
 
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Locutus said:
1934, 2015 – A Tale of Two Februaries | Watts Up With That?
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its called GLOBAL warming... not U.S. Continental States warming! 1934 ranks as the 4th warmest year on (instrumental) record in the U.S.. In terms of global rankings, 1934 is currently the 49th warmest year on (instrumental) record.

hey Locutus, care to offer up causes attributed to the 1934 (or 30s, in general) warming? Sure you can!

taxslave said:
waldo would only post the left half of the pic to "prove" that the earth is warming. And without context.
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more taxi gibberish!
 
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waldo said:
its called GLOBAL warming... not U.S. Continental States warming! 1934 ranks as the 4th warmest year on (instrumental) record in the U.S.. In terms of global rankings, 1934 is currently the 49th warmest year on (instrumental) record.

hey Locutus, care to offer up causes attributed to the 1934 (or 30s, in general) warming? Sure you can!
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hey Locutus! About that relative warming of the 30s:
- principally attributed to increased solar activity and a reduced cooling affect due to lower volcanic eruptions

- GHG’s were increasing, but were not a principal factor relative to the periods solar and volcanic influences
- neither of which, solar or volcanic, are considerations for the accelerated post 1980 warming
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you're welcome!
 
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