Why Russia Hasn’t Invaded Ukraine

gore0bsessed

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Yeah, because the rebels bought the dozens of first line Russian tanks at the local sporting goods store.

Poroshenko's a Russian threat, dumb yankee morons are lucky Russia didn't have more severe reaction to that threat.
 

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Nato's relentless push to isolate and encircle Russia made this all but inevitable once Western Ukraine signalled that it too would join Nato and EU.

It seems Russia is intent on seeing an independent state formed east of the Dneiper, which would be in the Russian sphere. In fact it might be looking to create dissension amongst the large Russian populations in the Balkans to establish other buffer states against Western encroachment.

In fact Russia, even in the time of the Soviet Union has never really been interested in Empire. It's foreign policy has always been predicated on establishing a ring of States around the Russian heartland, within its orbit, and supporting its economic interests.

It was very near sighted of the West to declare itself the 'winner' of the Cold War, when Communism collapsed, and not see that the deep cultural differences and suspicions between the oriental sensibilities of Russia and those of occidental Western Europe remained. They went headlong into expansionism eastward, exasperating Russia's paranoia of Western intrusion, and a push back was inevitable.

Russia won't invade the Ukraine, but it will enable the separatist forces in the east. Since ethnic Russians form the majority there, that is likely all they'll need to prevail within their limited objectives.
 
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Poroshenko's a Russian threat, dumb yankee morons are lucky Russia didn't have more severe reaction to that threat.

What we would so if we had any balls is inform Putin that Ukraine is about to become part of NATO, and start dropping in NATO troops.

The way to deal with psychotics like Putin is show them the muzzle of a cocked pistol.
 

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Left not unsaid is that there is only one gun in play and we are the ones in a rant with a cocked gun, maybe we are the rabid one?
 

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What we would so if we had any balls is inform Putin that Ukraine is about to become part of NATO, and start dropping in NATO troops.

The way to deal with psychotics like Putin is show them the muzzle of a cocked pistol.
No, if you had your way we'd all be doomed under a nuclear winter.
 

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Che is one of my favorite brands, by the way. It's right up there with Hathaway and Apple.

So Boris Nemtsov was just gunned down in Russia. I'm waiting breathlessly for the the links to the Russian Association of Taxidermists Monthly Newsletter with the TRUTH that the hit was made by Angela Merkel on the behest of the evil Americans as part of the ongoing campaign to discredit Vladimir Putin. Only the Americans and their imperial minions allow hooligans and weaklings like "opposition", after all and the truth WILL come out.
 

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No.

Read a little history.

Wars start when the psychos fail to understand where the lines are...........

That is why you need to make it very clear.

How are you Colpy? I'm happy to see debilatating brian growth hasn't prevented you from leading an interesting life. There are no lines for phychos, I guess. You've obviously read little history.
 

Curious Cdn

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I just read, this morning, on a British board that Nemtsov was killed by Islamisists because of some comment he had made on the Charlie Hebdo thing. His vocal opposition to Vladimir Putin had absolutely nothing to do with it and if anything, the Russian Federation goes out of its way to protect opposition politicians like Nemtsov. Well, there's progress. Islam is to blame! It used to be the Jews that the Russians would point their fingers at.

The author of that particular theory on that British board is one of the mods!

REALLY! ... and he's famous for his unconditional support of Putin because, clearly, anything that goes wrong in his world is the fault of the Americans.
 

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He wasn't in Politics anymore, he was in business. Whoever is dating Putin's daughter has more to fear than this old political foe. Busting the whole group will be the nail in NATO's coffin.
 

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I just read, this morning, on a British board that Nemtsov was killed by Islamisists because of some comment he had made on the Charlie Hebdo thing. His vocal opposition to Vladimir Putin had absolutely nothing to do with it and if anything, the Russian Federation goes out of its way to protect opposition politicians like Nemtsov. Well, there's progress. Islam is to blame! It used to be the Jews that the Russians would point their fingers at.

The author of that particular theory on that British board is one of the mods!

REALLY! ... and he's famous for his unconditional support of Putin because, clearly, anything that goes wrong in his world is the fault of the Americans.


I think it is the Musulmans who are to blame. Russia has frequently been a victim of Musulman terrorism from its Musulman Chechen separatists who want Chechnya to break away from Russia and become an independent state.
 

Curious Cdn

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The Muslims did it?

Do you really believe that?

Why not just blame the Jews ... the traditional, default boogeymen in that part of the planet?

Then again, the Russians are ALWAYS victims. Just ask any Russian. Perpetual victimhood absolves you of all responsibility in the world, if you hadn't already noticed.
 
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Curious Cdn

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Hey! Good news! They've arrested Nemtsov's girlfriend and taken her into custody because she's a witness. That's what happens to witnesses in Russia ... incarceration. I suppose it depends on what she witnessed.

Yup must be the Americans/Israelis/Chechen/EU/Conservative Caucus hit.

No Russians, here!