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As in the first instance? That would be Satan as he was the first to sin.
Ge:3:14:
And the LORD God said unto the serpent,
Because thou hast done this,
thou art cursed above all cattle,
and above every beast of the field;
upon thy belly shalt thou go,
and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life:
If God is the sower then he gathers all of mankind, even gerr. (after the chastising that is)
Re:22:11:
He that is unjust,
let him be unjust still:
and he which is filthy,
let him be filthy still:
and he that is righteous,
let him be righteous still:
and he that is holy,
let him be holy still.
Lu:16:24-25:
And he cried and said,
Father Abraham,
have mercy on me,
and send Lazarus,
that he may dip the tip of his finger in water,
and cool my tongue;
for I am tormented in this flame.
But Abraham said,
Son,
remember that thou in thy lifetime receivedst thy good things,
and likewise Lazarus evil things:
but now he is comforted,
and thou art tormented.
Lu:16:29-31:
Abraham saith unto him,
They have Moses and the prophets;
let them hear them.
And he said,
Nay,
father Abraham:
but if one went unto them from the dead,
they will repent.
And he said unto him,
If they hear not Moses and the prophets,
neither will they be persuaded,
though one rose from the dead.
Ge:3:14:
And the LORD God said unto the serpent,
Because thou hast done this,
thou art cursed above all cattle,
and above every beast of the field;
upon thy belly shalt thou go,
and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life:
The dogs appreciate your patience as it is still quite cold out. Now that is taken care of you have my full attention, for what that is worth.While we're waiting I'll jump in with my favourite..............."As ye sow, so shall ye reap". Where would you find that in the Good Book?
If God is the sower then he gathers all of mankind, even gerr. (after the chastising that is)
Re:22:11:
He that is unjust,
let him be unjust still:
and he which is filthy,
let him be filthy still:
and he that is righteous,
let him be righteous still:
and he that is holy,
let him be holy still.
Lu:16:24-25:
And he cried and said,
Father Abraham,
have mercy on me,
and send Lazarus,
that he may dip the tip of his finger in water,
and cool my tongue;
for I am tormented in this flame.
But Abraham said,
Son,
remember that thou in thy lifetime receivedst thy good things,
and likewise Lazarus evil things:
but now he is comforted,
and thou art tormented.
Lu:16:29-31:
Abraham saith unto him,
They have Moses and the prophets;
let them hear them.
And he said,
Nay,
father Abraham:
but if one went unto them from the dead,
they will repent.
And he said unto him,
If they hear not Moses and the prophets,
neither will they be persuaded,
though one rose from the dead.
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Now that I have some other things finished would you agree that with your reference verse that these ones would also apply if you take God as being the sower and the reaper?
M't:13:41:
The Son of man shall send forth his angels,
and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend,
and them which do iniquity;
Re:14:14-20:
And I looked,
and behold a white cloud,
and upon the cloud one sat like unto the Son of man,
having on his head a golden crown,
and in his hand a sharp sickle.
And another angel came out of the temple,
crying with a loud voice to him that sat on the cloud,
Thrust in thy sickle,
and reap:
for the time is come for thee to reap;
for the harvest of the earth is ripe.
And he that sat on the cloud thrust in his sickle on the earth;
and the earth was reaped.
And another angel came out of the temple which is in heaven,
he also having a sharp sickle.
And another angel came out from the altar,
which had power over fire;
and cried with a loud cry to him that had the sharp sickle,
saying,
Thrust in thy sharp sickle,
and gather the clusters of the vine of the earth;
for her grapes are fully ripe.
And the angel thrust in his sickle into the earth,
and gathered the vine of the earth,
and cast it into the great winepress of the wrath of God.
And the winepress was trodden without the city,
and blood came out of the winepress,
even unto the horse bridles,
by the space of a thousand and six hundred furlongs.
Joe:2:1-11:
Blow ye the trumpet in Zion,
and sound an alarm in my holy mountain:
let all the inhabitants of the land tremble:
for the day of the LORD cometh,
for it is nigh at hand;
A day of darkness and of gloominess,
a day of clouds and of thick darkness,
as the morning spread upon the mountains:
a great people and a strong;
there hath not been ever the like,
neither shall be any more after it,
even to the years of many generations.
A fire devoureth before them;
and behind them a flame burneth:
the land is as the garden of Eden before them,
and behind them a desolate wilderness;
yea,
and nothing shall escape them.
The appearance of them is as the appearance of horses;
and as horsemen,
so shall they run.
Like the noise of chariots on the tops of mountains shall they leap,
like the noise of a flame of fire that devoureth the stubble,
as a strong people set in battle array.
They shall run like mighty men;
they shall climb the wall like men of war;
and they shall march every one on his ways,
and they shall not break their ranks:
Neither shall one thrust another;
they shall walk every one in his path:
and when they fall upon the sword,
they shall not be wounded.
They shall run to and fro in the city;
they shall run upon the wall,
they shall climb up upon the houses;
they shall enter in at the windows like a thief.
The earth shall quake before them;
the heavens shall tremble:
the sun and the moon shall be dark,
and the stars shall withdraw their shining:
And the LORD shall utter his voice before his army:
for his camp is very great:
for he is strong that executeth his word:
for the day of the LORD is great and very terrible;
and who can abide it?
Unfortunately I can give you only one greenie for that. It deserves at least a dozen, as a measure of how little in doubt it is.
I'll give you one, that to me stands above all the rest. "Prove all things; hold fast that which is good." I think, without looking it up, that's 1 Thessalonians 5:21. That's the skeptic's mantra, the keystone of my approach to understanding the world. As long as you hold to the view that the Bible was written by god to tell us what the future holds for us, as you've explicitly stated you do in this thread--a view that I believe is demonstrably false--your claims are never going to be right. The Bible was written by men to serve their own purposes at the time, and while there is much wisdom in its myths and symbols and stories, it is not an accurate historical, scientific, or prophetic, record, and it's foolish beyond description to think it is.
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Dex, just go green 9 different ones, not that hard to figure out.
That works only so far, you still believe everything about the original 9/11 story as far as I know. (as well as a host of other recent political stories and other topics that deserve a reader do a little more than read and believe)
You sure you labeled that right as the ones below would seem to be the ones that supply solutions to the Bible being a book of falsehoods.
1Co:15:32:
If after the manner of men I have fought with beasts at Ephesus,
what advantageth it me,
if the dead rise not?
let us eat and drink;
for to morrow we die.
1Co:15:16-19:
For if the dead rise not,
then is not Christ raised:
And if Christ be not raised,
your faith is vain;
ye are yet in your sins.
Then they also which are fallen asleep in Christ are perished.
If in this life only we have hope in Christ,
we are of all men most miserable.
As long as you disagree with my claim it will never be right is closer to the truth. You claim to be able to demonstrate that yet your post seems to be void of any such material. Much like gerr when he claims my version has some flaws in it but then never produces any such examples to show how it is false, other than his 'expert opinion'.
You going to go back and find some or do you need some new ones?
The one about 'the rest' being the ones in Isa:65 hasn't been debunked yet.
The one about Jer:25 covering the globe hasn't been debunked yet (in connection with the 4th seal can be covered as well)
The resurrection from the grave for Israel from Eze:37, 39, 47, Jer:31 hasn't been debunked yet.
The definition of the 'little ones' from Zec:13 is still open on your end.
The definition of 'the land of the enemy' from Jer:31 is still open on your end.
How long of a list do you need before you start an actual reply?
Moses was able to include the De:4 prophecy that covers the people that are alive for the trumps of Revelation, by design and all by themselves by some ' fluke or accident? I'm thinking not.
Does this writer seem like he is working on a conspiracy novel?
Da:7:28:
Hitherto is the end of the matter.
As for me Daniel,
my cogitations much troubled me,
and my countenance changed in me:
but I kept the matter in my heart.
Da:12:4:
But thou,
O Daniel,
shut up the words,
and seal the book,
even to the time of the end:
many shall run to and fro,
and knowledge shall be increased.
Da:12:8-12:
And I heard,
but I understood not:
then said I,
O my Lord,
what shall be the end of these things?
And he said,
Go thy way,
Daniel:
for the words are closed up and sealed till the time of the end.
Many shall be purified,
and made white,
and tried;
but the wicked shall do wickedly:
and none of the wicked shall understand;
but the wise shall understand.
And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away,
and the abomination that maketh desolate set up,
there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days.
Blessed is he that waiteth,
and cometh to the thousand three hundred and five and thirty days.
You should be able to clarify how those dates work.
For all your wisdom (and gerrs) you forgot to cover the visions and explanations from Da:7 and Re:17, . . again.
Do Hebrews:12 or Jude or Zephaniah then if that is the case as each term should stand for something and I know for a fact there aren't any done for those by you or gerr.
Considering that the book is the only gathering tool that should be around today that would leave just prophecy. Daniel's problem would have been solved by the NT becoming a test that can add more information to the OT as it is not complete enough that it has an ending that matches the level of the detail in the writing in the books up to that point. Even the present adds to the increase in knowledge as more and more people can read the Bible but even more important is that people can study it in a great amount of detail. For all the 'experts' here (and elsewhere) nobody has even covered the 20+ references in the OT for 'day of the lord' to see if it matches or conflicts with that same term as found in the NT. When you and gerr start doing that level of 'prove all things' then I'll sit up and start taking your seriously. As it stands you two are clowns and don't post anything about the verses but always find enough time to do some little barb as your whole contribution.
I'll even start a new topic that is valid for the blood moons and why Daniel's timeline puts us in the brass, once you catch up that is.
The very first question of the thread remains unanswered, Gerry: "How important to Christ/Christianity is our attitude/conduct towards others?"
It is a silly and ridiculous question, not to mention outrageously self righteous: that a mere mortal can think they know what is important to Christ. You base your assumption on the belief that this antiquated book is something it is not and then proceed to assume to be an expert on what is important to your god.
The question wasn't meant for you, and I'm pretty sure your little rant makes you something other than a Christian, gerr can claim to be a Christian but his actions makes him the very definition of a false Christian.
ROFLMFAO.... riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight. As opposed to your false interpretation of so called "prophesies" and your continued support of Islam even when those terrorists are killing Christians. If you are what a "Christian" is supposed to be, then I am happy to be called a "false Christian".
From start to finish you are an ******* through and through. I have to assume in your case it means ' my fuked *** off'.
The question was meant for you? (or does the retard in you mean she won't be getting any reply because your version of being a Christian means you only supply questions and not answers)
The question was meant for you? (or does the retard in you mean she won't be getting any reply because your version of being a Christian means you only supply questions and not answers)
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and I suppose the above is a perfect example of what a "good" Christian does. :roll:
We already know what YOU are mhz. My question to Motar was to determine what she/he is. The fact that he/she is unwilling to answer the question tells me exactly what he/she is and I will not be "answering" his/her hypocritical questions.
As a good little Christian it was my duty to inform you that you sinful ways will take you straight to hell.
Now ask me if that bothers me?
Isa:65:2-12:
I have spread out my hands all the day unto a rebellious people,
which walketh in a way that was not good,
after their own thoughts;
A people that provoketh me to anger continually to my face;
that sacrificeth in gardens,
and burneth incense upon altars of brick;
Which remain among the graves,
and lodge in the monuments,
which eat swine's flesh,
and broth of abominable things is in their vessels;
Which say,
Stand by thyself,
come not near to me;
for I am holier than thou.
These are a smoke in my nose,
a fire that burneth all the day.
Behold,
it is written before me:
I will not keep silence,
but will recompense,
even recompense into their bosom,
Your iniquities,
and the iniquities of your fathers together,
saith the LORD,
which have burned incense upon the mountains,
and blasphemed me upon the hills:
therefore will I measure their former work into their bosom.
Thus saith the LORD,
As the new wine is found in the cluster,
and one saith,
Destroy it not;
for a blessing is in it:
so will I do for my servants' sakes,
that I may not destroy them all.
And I will bring forth a seed out of Jacob,
and out of Judah an inheritor of my mountains:
and mine elect shall inherit it,
and my servants shall dwell there.
And Sharon shall be a fold of flocks,
and the valley of Achor a place for the herds to lie down in,
for my people that have sought me.
But ye are they that forsake the LORD,
that forget my holy mountain,
that prepare a table for that troop,
and that furnish the drink offering unto that number.
Therefore will I number you to the sword,
and ye shall all bow down to the slaughter:
because when I called,
ye did not answer;
when I spake,
ye did not hear;
but did evil before mine eyes,
and did choose that wherein I delighted not.
1Pe:3:15-16:
But sanctify the Lord God in your hearts:
and be ready always to give an answer to every man that asketh you a reason of the hope that is in you with meekness and fear:
Having a good conscience;
that,
whereas they speak evil of you,
as of evildoers,
they may be ashamed that falsely accuse your good conversation in Christ.
bad, gerr, bad
The false christian passover deception.
http://www.franknelte.net/article.php?article_id=43
Here are some comments regarding this letter:1) This letter was written in 1983 only about 3 weeks after the barley harvest had started in the middle of May.
2) The writer was obviously knowledgeable about barley, being the director of a department within the Ministry of Agriculture in Israel.
3) The writer states that NORMALLY the barley harvest STARTS at around THE END OF APRIL. This is about 6 weeks LATER than some Karaite "experts" today claim to find "ripe barley". So Mr. Bar-Droma's comments are considerably at odds with the claims of some religious leaders who find "ripe barley" around the middle of March.
4) For the year 1983 the Jewish calendar started the year on MARCH 15, and Nisan 14 was on March 28. The actual lunar conjunction, expressed in Local Jerusalem Time, was on March 14 at 8:05 p.m., which was the first part of March 15. So in 1983 the Jewish calendar started the year on the day of the lunar conjunction. The "first Omer of barley", as Mr. Bar-Droma called it, would theoretically have been required on Sunday morning, April 3, during the Days of Unleavened Bread.
But for 1983 that was still about 6 weeks BEFORE the first barley was being harvested in the Jordan Valley, according to this Ministry of Agriculture official. Presumably the religious "barley experts" in Israel had also managed to find some ripe barley 6 weeks before the barley farmers themselves found it that year?
5) Mr. Bar-Droma acknowledged that barley could be reaped "a couple of weeks earlier" if two favourable factors came into play:
A) Harvesting by hand permitted reaping earlier with a higher moisture content, and then letting the sheaves dry further in the fields.
B) Using specific varieties with shorter growing seasons also allows reaping at an earlier date.
Combining these two favourable factors could in biblical times have brought the time of the barley harvest forward from the end of April to the middle of April (i.e. a couple of weeks). That is still about 10 days LATER than "the first Omer of barley" could theoretically be required when Nisan 1 is never earlier than the first day of spring (March 21/22).
6) So when we expect barley to be ripe for the wave offering around April 5-10, then we are still expecting barley to be ripe A FULL THREE WEEKS BEFORE the Director of the Field Crops Department stated barley is NORMALLY harvested in this age.
Now people have, through genetic modifications, produced varieties of barley that require a shorter growing season, so that these varieties can be used in colder climates, like the northern USA and southern Canada. And if such genetically manipulated varieties are grown in Israel today, then they could perhaps be ready for harvesting around April 5-10? But anything earlier than that must be viewed with scepticism, if Mr. Bar-Droma's views carry any weight.
So when the Jewish year starts on March 14, as it did in 2002, and when the Passover is on March 27, and when the wave offering would theoretically have been required on Sunday, March 31 (in 2002), THEN THAT IS A FULL MONTH BEFORE BARLEY IS NORMALLY REAPED IN ISRAEL TODAY!
I believe that under such circumstances the claim of having ripe barley available by March 31 is highly suspect of ulterior religious motives.
IF the barley harvest was to have any influence at all in determining the correct new moon for starting the year, then it surely has to be this:
The state of the barley harvest could PERHAPS cause the start of a year to be postponed to THE FOLLOWING NEW MOON (thereby giving the previous year a 13th month), but the state of the barley harvest could NEVER DETERMINE THAT AN EARLIER NEW MOON SHOULD BE USED TO START THE YEAR!
To use barley to try to start the year AS EARLY AS POSSIBLE is to misapply the intent of the instruction to bring a wave offering of the new barley.
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And on for Pharaoh; lo, in ward. And Kenan were bitter: therefore take, I will be his cattle: therefore go, then will not in all thy servants will do unto him. And it came to pass at the passover to thy borders. And in the river, and Nahor lived after the affliction and took her hand; forasmuch as he said unto them, say unto him sevenfold. And after he shall eat bread. And they took his brother.
Then Jacob called his brethren came and he refuseth to him, into the seed, which ye shall speak peaceably unto thee and looked, and, behold, Isaac his servants; and the pace of Man. Therefore the pillar of any more and beheld the famine was a goodly things of Isaac, had died that Judah said, Nay; but the Syrian of a Hebrew, one is not take a mixed multitude in the way to me thy right hand into Egypt; and I had gotten in thy shoes from Beer-sheba: and on their names, according unto the mount Seir, unto us? We have said, It is evil case, when the South. And he hearkened unto Abraham.
These were scattered abroad upon her to the field, and his kingdom was brought them gather themselves unto Jehovah, to the children of Egypt, and the land: but God blessed him a city, bring me in the sand which I will give his stead: and Beriah, and winter, and their generations, he said, Who are my people pass at Luz at the flags, and their cattle. And there was Luz at the second
words. And there they found there shall prepare that went out his words.
And in unto Moses, saying, When Leah said, Lest he them, saying, If he let the morning, and the children of Isaac said unto Noah, This is the Red Sea, and all the border of Jacob, Feed me, behold, Joseph more give seed as her handmaid. And when he hath washed their names, according to Simeon and set Ephraim and this condition will make one blessing, my roof. And he ministered unto his daughter, sister stood before his money, when Isaac his hand, and beast;
and Husham Reu two hundred years; and twentieth day were both birds, the things the interpretation of Egypt; and the men were sore upon thine with this sign unto me, I have created he took ten camels, of the river shall be grown up; for they that the names of my hand of cattle in that are they blessed in the east country. And Ishmael his friend, and upon my father.
And Jacob vowed a pillar. And as God, as one people, and God to Jacob. Joseph, Behold, I am I. And Israel from thence two sons: Reuben, thou wentest up out
Hell is from day 1 of the 1,000 years until the Great White Throne, by that time the ones sent there will have repented their sin. That is certainly a better fate that being sent to the fiery lake.
Go without a few things and that is sometimes the best teaching tool around.
Isa:65:13-14:
Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD,
Behold,
my servants shall eat,
but ye shall be hungry:
behold,
my servants shall drink,
but ye shall be thirsty:
behold,
my servants shall rejoice,
but ye shall be ashamed:
Behold,
my servants shall sing for joy of heart,
but ye shall cry for sorrow of heart,
and shall howl for vexation of spirit.
Gerr likes to think of himself as being big and important when he is just a spiteful little prick to most people he talks to. I can take and give that, others don't deserve his low-life approach to his rants. He doesn't answer because he can't, it would show him to be the tard he really is.
Isa:14:12-19:
How art thou fallen from heaven,
O Lucifer,
son of the morning!
how art thou cut down to the ground,
which didst weaken the nations!
For thou hast said in thine heart,
I will ascend into heaven,
I will exalt my throne above the stars of God:
I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation,
in the sides of the north:
I will ascend above the heights of the clouds;
I will be like the most High.
Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell,
to the sides of the pit.
They that see thee shall narrowly look upon thee,
and consider thee,
saying,
Is this the man that made the earth to tremble,
that did shake kingdoms;
That made the world as a wilderness,
and destroyed the cities thereof;
that opened not the house of his prisoners?
All the kings of the nations,
even all of them,
lie in glory,
every one in his own house.
But thou art cast out of thy grave like an abominable branch,
and as the raiment of those that are slain,
thrust through with a sword,
that go down to the stones of the pit;
as a carcase trodden under feet.
This gives me permission to push him hard as he is claiming that Jesus is his master yet he acts in direct opposition to that. I wasn't kidding when I said it took 3 seconds for a verse to pop into my head after I said the Lord's Prayeres and asked how I should 'reply to gerr, the verse was one I don't normally use so take it from there. I doubt the verses will get any kinder. Are you sure your time wouldn't be better spent pondering what the aging verse means to people after all wrath is past?
1Co:5:9-11:
I wrote unto you in an epistle not to company with fornicators:
Yet not altogether with the fornicators of this world,
or with the covetous,
or extortioners,
or with idolaters;
for then must ye needs go out of the world.
But now I have written unto you not to keep company,
if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator,
or covetous,
or an idolater,
or a railer,
or a drunkard,
or an extortioner;
with such an one no not to eat.
Isa:65:20:
There shall be no more thence an infant of days,
nor an old man that hath not filled his days:
for the child shall die an hundred years old;
but the sinner being an hundred years old shall be accursed.
pseudepigraphal work (a noncanonical writing that in style and content resembles authentic biblical works), one of many Jewish and Christian stories that embellish the account of Adam and Eve as given in the biblical Genesis. Biography was an extremely popular literary genre during the late Hellenistic period of Judaism (3rd century BC to 3rd century AD), and legends of biblical figures were numerous. But all surviving Haggada (folk stories and anecdotes) about Adam and Eve are Christian works and are preserved in a number of ancient languages (e.g., Greek, Latin, Ethiopic). Although all Aramaic and Hebrew texts have been lost, the basic material was presumably of Jewish authorship. Extant versions of the Life of Adam and Eve have consequently been used to reconstruct the supposed original, which was probably composed sometime between 20 BC and AD 70, because the apocalyptic portion of the work (chapter 29) seems to imply that the Herodian Temple of Jerusalem was functioning when the book was written. The book is primarily noteworthy for its imaginative retelling of the biblical story and for its inclusion of visions and angelology, both characteristic of Hellenistic religious writing. The detailed descriptions of the penances that Adam and Eve inflicted upon themselves after their expulsion from Eden suggest an ascetic influence.
[THE TITLE OF THE WORK: THE SCRIBES PRAYER.]
[Fol. 3b, col. I.] By the might of our Lord Jesus Christ we begin to write the " Book of the Succession of the Generations," that is to say, ME'ÂRATH GAZZÊ, which was composed by SAINT MÂR APHREM (i.e. Ephraim, commonly known as "Ephraim Syrus," or "Ephraim the Syrian,'' who died A.D. 373). 0 our Lord, help Thou me in Thy Mercy. Amen.
[ THE FIRST THOUSAND YEARS: ADAM TO YARÊD (Jared).]
[The Creation. First Day.]
In the beginning, on the First Day, which was the holy First Day of the Week, the chief and [Firstborn of all the days, God created the heavens, and the earth, and the waters, and the air, ( the fire, and the hosts which are invisible (that is to say, the Angels, Archangels, Thrones, Lords, Principalities, Powers, Cherubim and Seraphim), and all the ranks and companies of Spiritual beings, and the Light, and the Night, and the Day-time, and the gentle winds and the strong winds (i.e. storms). All these were created on the First Day. And on the First Day of the Week the Spirit of holiness, one of the Persons of the Trinity, hovered over the waters and through the hovering thereof over the; [Fol. 3b, col. 2] face of the waters, the waters were blessed so that they might become producers of offspring, and they became hot, and the whole nature of the waters glowed with heat, and the leaven of creation was united to them. As the mother-bird maketh warm her young by the embrace of her closely covering wings, and the young birds acquire form through the warmth of the heat which [they derive] from her, so through the operation of the Spirit of holiness, the Spirit, the Paraclete, the leaven of the breath of life was united to the waters when He hovered over them.
Note 1
[The Creation. Second Day.]
And on the Second Day God made the Lower Heaven, and called it REKI'A' [that is to say, " what is sold and fixed," or " firmament "]. This He did that He might make known that the Lower Heaven doth not possess the nature of the heaven which is above it, and that it is different in appearance from that heaven which is above it, for the heaven above it is of fire. And that second heaven is NÛHRÂ (i.e. Light), and this lower heaven is Darpition [Fol. 4a, col. I]8 and because it hath the dense nature of water it hath been called "Rekî'a." And on the Second Day God made a separation between the waters and the waters, that is to say, between the waters which were above [Rekî'a] and the waters which were below. And the ascent of these waters which were above heaven took place on the Second Day, and they were like unto a dense black cloud of thick darkness. Thus were they raised up there, and they mounted up, and behold, they stand above the Rekî'a in the air; and they do not spread, and they make no motion to any side.
Note 2
LIFE OF ADAM AND EVE, GOD, SETH, CAINE
Go without a few things and that is sometimes the best teaching tool around.
Isa:65:13-14:
Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD,
Behold,
my servants shall eat,
but ye shall be hungry:
behold,
my servants shall drink,
but ye shall be thirsty:
behold,
my servants shall rejoice,
but ye shall be ashamed:
Behold,
my servants shall sing for joy of heart,
but ye shall cry for sorrow of heart,
and shall howl for vexation of spirit.
Gerr likes to think of himself as being big and important when he is just a spiteful little prick to most people he talks to. I can take and give that, others don't deserve his low-life approach to his rants. He doesn't answer because he can't, it would show him to be the tard he really is.
Isa:14:12-19:
How art thou fallen from heaven,
O Lucifer,
son of the morning!
how art thou cut down to the ground,
which didst weaken the nations!
For thou hast said in thine heart,
I will ascend into heaven,
I will exalt my throne above the stars of God:
I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation,
in the sides of the north:
I will ascend above the heights of the clouds;
I will be like the most High.
Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell,
to the sides of the pit.
They that see thee shall narrowly look upon thee,
and consider thee,
saying,
Is this the man that made the earth to tremble,
that did shake kingdoms;
That made the world as a wilderness,
and destroyed the cities thereof;
that opened not the house of his prisoners?
All the kings of the nations,
even all of them,
lie in glory,
every one in his own house.
But thou art cast out of thy grave like an abominable branch,
and as the raiment of those that are slain,
thrust through with a sword,
that go down to the stones of the pit;
as a carcase trodden under feet.
This gives me permission to push him hard as he is claiming that Jesus is his master yet he acts in direct opposition to that. I wasn't kidding when I said it took 3 seconds for a verse to pop into my head after I said the Lord's Prayeres and asked how I should 'reply to gerr, the verse was one I don't normally use so take it from there. I doubt the verses will get any kinder. Are you sure your time wouldn't be better spent pondering what the aging verse means to people after all wrath is past?
1Co:5:9-11:
I wrote unto you in an epistle not to company with fornicators:
Yet not altogether with the fornicators of this world,
or with the covetous,
or extortioners,
or with idolaters;
for then must ye needs go out of the world.
But now I have written unto you not to keep company,
if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator,
or covetous,
or an idolater,
or a railer,
or a drunkard,
or an extortioner;
with such an one no not to eat.
Isa:65:20:
There shall be no more thence an infant of days,
nor an old man that hath not filled his days:
for the child shall die an hundred years old;
but the sinner being an hundred years old shall be accursed.
The story is continued here. I quote the Bible, it isn't the only book I have read. That puts me one up on you creeps already. This just increases that point spread.
ADAM & EVE
[THE TITLE OF THE WORK: THE SCRIBES PRAYER.]
[Fol. 3b, col. I.] By the might of our Lord Jesus Christ we begin to write the " Book of the Succession of the Generations," that is to say, ME'ÂRATH GAZZÊ, which was composed by SAINT MÂR APHREM (i.e. Ephraim, commonly known as "Ephraim Syrus," or "Ephraim the Syrian,'' who died A.D. 373). 0 our Lord, help Thou me in Thy Mercy. Amen.
[ THE FIRST THOUSAND YEARS: ADAM TO YARÊD (Jared).]
[The Creation. First Day.]
In the beginning, on the First Day, which was the holy First Day of the Week, the chief and [Firstborn of all the days, God created the heavens, and the earth, and the waters, and the air, ( the fire, and the hosts which are invisible (that is to say, the Angels, Archangels, Thrones, Lords, Principalities, Powers, Cherubim and Seraphim), and all the ranks and companies of Spiritual beings, and the Light, and the Night, and the Day-time, and the gentle winds and the strong winds (i.e. storms). All these were created on the First Day. And on the First Day of the Week the Spirit of holiness, one of the Persons of the Trinity, hovered over the waters and through the hovering thereof over the; [Fol. 3b, col. 2] face of the waters, the waters were blessed so that they might become producers of offspring, and they became hot, and the whole nature of the waters glowed with heat, and the leaven of creation was united to them. As the mother-bird maketh warm her young by the embrace of her closely covering wings, and the young birds acquire form through the warmth of the heat which [they derive] from her, so through the operation of the Spirit of holiness, the Spirit, the Paraclete, the leaven of the breath of life was united to the waters when He hovered over them.
Note 1
[The Creation. Second Day.]
And on the Second Day God made the Lower Heaven, and called it REKI'A' [that is to say, " what is sold and fixed," or " firmament "]. This He did that He might make known that the Lower Heaven doth not possess the nature of the heaven which is above it, and that it is different in appearance from that heaven which is above it, for the heaven above it is of fire. And that second heaven is NÛHRÂ (i.e. Light), and this lower heaven is Darpition [Fol. 4a, col. I]8 and because it hath the dense nature of water it hath been called "Rekî'a." And on the Second Day God made a separation between the waters and the waters, that is to say, between the waters which were above [Rekî'a] and the waters which were below. And the ascent of these waters which were above heaven took place on the Second Day, and they were like unto a dense black cloud of thick darkness. Thus were they raised up there, and they mounted up, and behold, they stand above the Rekî'a in the air; and they do not spread, and they make no motion to any side.
Note 2
LIFE OF ADAM AND EVE, GOD, SETH, CAINE