Conservatives and Liberals end 2014 neck and neck

waldo

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And we know Justin is a liar, so we must assume a coalition will be the probable result of a Conservative minority.

why do you keep repeating this? Again, NO Coaltion, pre-election... what might happen after election results is a completely different scenario/undertaking. What could be sweeter than to see Harper Conservatives, once again, in a complete meltdown screaming "coup d'etat"... traveling coast-to-coast waiing on about "the election has been stolen from you"... "no respect for democracy"... "your votes have been high-jacked"...
 

Colpy

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why do you keep repeating this? Again, NO Coaltion, pre-election... what might happen after election results is a completely different scenario/undertaking. What could be sweeter than to see Harper Conservatives, once again, in a complete meltdown screaming "coup d'etat"... traveling coast-to-coast waiing on about "the election has been stolen from you"... "no respect for democracy"... "your votes have been high-jacked"...

So, you like not knowing who you are voting for in the PM's office?

You enjoy being lied to by Justin?

At least Mulcair is honest, and does not rule it out. If Justin did the same, I would have nothing to complain about, would I?

I know, "progressives" have a basic lack of ability to understand democracy.....something like their inherent inability to understand the written word.

Personally, I like a party's policies to be laid out in their platform before the election, so I know what I'm voting for............
 

waldo

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So, you like not knowing who you are voting for in the PM's office?

You enjoy being lied to by Justin?

At least Mulcair is honest, and does not rule it out. If Justin did the same, I would have nothing to complain about, would I?

I know, "progressives" have a basic lack of ability to understand democracy.....something like their inherent inability to understand the written word.

Personally, I like a party's policies to be laid out in their platform before the election, so I know what I'm voting for............

well, of course, unless you're in a respective leader's riding, none of us are, as you say, "voting for in the PMs office". Not sure why you struggle so much with a simple statement that declares a coalition is not being considered pre-election. You're also fully aware that coalitions, post-election, are a facet of Westminster Parliamentary process... they're not undemocratic no matter how loud and forceful Harper Conservatives say they are!
 

Colpy

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well, of course, unless you're in a respective leader's riding, none of us are, as you say, "voting for in the PMs office". Not sure why you struggle so much with a simple statement that declares a coalition is not being considered pre-election. You're also fully aware that coalitions, post-election, are a facet of Westminster Parliamentary process... they're not undemocratic no matter how loud and forceful Harper Conservatives say they are!

Sigh

If the Conservatives are elected, then the leader of that Party, (Mr. Harper) will be PM.....so when I vote for a CPC candidate, I am putting Harper in the PM's chair.

"Not sure why you struggle so much with a simple statement that declares a coalition is not being considered pre-election."

Man you really need to tackle that reading comprehension problem.

Coalition with the NDP
There is constant political speculation about what Mr. Trudeau will do if Mr. Harper is re-elected with a minority government. Will Mr. Trudeau topple the Tories in Parliament and form a coalition government with the NDP’s Tom Mulcair?
“There are some very, very big impediments to forming a coalition with the NDP. Which is why I am against it.” He said the two parties are miles apart on issues such as international trade and the Constitution.
“With regard to constitutional issues and Quebec, I don’t think we should be making it easier for the country to separate.”

Justin Trudeau rules out coalition with NDP, says ‘immediate action’ needed on climate change | National Post
 

Canbyte

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Now we know where some want to stand (sorry, that should have been sit) but we don't know (I read) where they will sit (sorry. that should have been stand), or do we. Can't rely on anyone to act in the future where they say they will today. Best close eyes and stick something in. Yes that's it, stick something in.
 

waldo

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Man you really need to tackle that reading comprehension problem.

nothing new within that year-end interview... again, a coalition is not being considered pre-election. The so-called impediments get worked out in a possible post-election coalition scenario... exactly what happens repeatedly in Europe where respective parties retain their separation and identity and strict structured contractual agreements are crafted to support working relations/positions.
 

Machjo

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Sigh

If the Conservatives are elected, then the leader of that Party, (Mr. Harper) will be PM.....so when I vote for a CPC candidate, I am putting Harper in the PM's chair.

"Not sure why you struggle so much with a simple statement that declares a coalition is not being considered pre-election."

Man you really need to tackle that reading comprehension problem.



Justin Trudeau rules out coalition with NDP, says ‘immediate action’ needed on climate change | National Post

Are you saying you are happy to vote for a well paid bobblehead?
 

Colpy

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nothing new within that year-end interview... again, a coalition is not being considered pre-election. The so-called impediments get worked out in a possible post-election coalition scenario... exactly what happens repeatedly in Europe where respective parties retain their separation and identity and strict structured contractual agreements are crafted to support working relations/positions.

Excuse me?

The question was, as I pointed out and then highlighted for you, what if Harper wins a minority??

Justin discounted the possibility of a coalition.

So, do you support a liar?

READING COMPREHENSION

Get a grip on it.

This is not Europe.

Are you saying you are happy to vote for a well paid bobblehead?

I am saying I support by far the best party for the future of Canada.

More to the point, I do not support socialists or idiots.
 

Canbyte

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Fact that Conservative John Tory won Mayoralty of Toronto rather than left winger Olivia Chow may be an indication of the way things are going. At the Federal level Harper's party could re-win government though what kind remains to see. Also whether Harper decides to follow his own edict of a 2015 election or he ekes it out to 2016 is his very interesting and as yet unspoken decision.
 

gerryh

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I am saying I support by far the best party for the future of Canada.

More to the point, I do not support socialists or idiots.




I feel the same way as Colpy, unfortunately, the best party for Canada is being run by an idiot. So, unlike Colpy, I have no one to vote for at this time.
 

Machjo

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Excuse me?

The question was, as I pointed out and then highlighted for you, what if Harper wins a minority??

Justin discounted the possibility of a coalition.

So, do you support a liar?

READING COMPREHENSION

Get a grip on it.

This is not Europe.



I am saying I support by far the best party for the future of Canada.

More to the point, I do not support socialists or idiots.

Hypothetical question. The local candidate for the best party is an idiot, but the candidate for another party shows knowledge, wisdom, character, etc.

Which do you vote for?
 

petros

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What does Justin have to offer that is different than what we have today?

Hypothetical question. The local candidate for the best party is an idiot, but the candidate for another party shows knowledge, wisdom, character, etc.

Which do you vote for?
The one that has your best interests in mind.
 

Machjo

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Sigh

If the Conservatives are elected, then the leader of that Party, (Mr. Harper) will be PM.....so when I vote for a CPC candidate, I am putting Harper in the PM's chair.

"Not sure why you struggle so much with a simple statement that declares a coalition is not being considered pre-election."

Man you really need to tackle that reading comprehension problem.



Justin Trudeau rules out coalition with NDP, says ‘immediate action’ needed on climate change | National Post

MPs have been known to rebel against their leader and even oust him. Thatcher comes to mind.
In less extreme circumstances, MPs have been known to withdraw from caucus and sit as independents. So strictly speaking, you are voting for a candidate and not a party nor its leader. If you were voting for a party, then sitting as an independent would not be possible.
If for the leader, then revolt and ousting would be prohibited too. Yet both are possible. So you are voting for an MP whether you acknowledge it or not.

What does Justin have to offer that is different than what we have today?


The one that has your best interests in mind.

So you're saying the best candidate and not the one with the prettiest party colours? Smart man.
 

petros

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So you're saying the best candidate and not the one with the prettiest party colours? Smart man.

You are correct. As it stands I've heard nothing about anyone challenging my current MP. I have no clue who they even are and an election could come this spring.
 

gerryh

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MPs have been known to rebel against their leader and even oust him. Thatcher comes to mind.
In less extreme circumstances, MPs have been known to withdraw from caucus and sit as independents. So strictly speaking, you are voting for a candidate and not a party nor its leader. If you were voting for a party, then sitting as an independent would not be possible.
If for the leader, then revolt and ousting would be prohibited too. Yet both are possible. So you are voting for an MP whether you acknowledge it or not.

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and if you truly believe all of that, you're a bigger idiot than walter.