Liberals now pulling away from Cons into majority territory

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Odds aren't bad for a minority government right now. But there'll be a few up-and-downs yet as we enter election season.
 

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Odds aren't bad for a minority government right now. But there'll be a few up-and-downs yet as we enter election season.

I'd disagree... Trudeau is self-destructing, Harper is hitting his stride and the NDP, who knows but at best there will be a wash trade between the Libs and Dips with the potential for the Cons to pull a few from both
 
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Personally, I think the polls are completely misleading for one simple reason: this election will depend on getting the vote out, and I do not believe people are going to come out for Trudeau.......especially after the Conservatives are done with him in the campaign and in debates.




Trudeau says Liberals can’t support C-42 gun bill | Watch News Videos Online

Trudeau's little chat in the link:

His first point, like the poster from the Liberal site, is a blatant lie. The conditions for transport are strict.....the weapon must be trigger-locked, locked in a container apart from all ammunition, and can only be transported between the range (or gunsmith) and home by the most direct route. This will not change,. and Trudeau knows it, but chooses to lie to his ignorant Liberal support base.

Secondly, Trudeau supports the police deciding what is legal or illegal in Canada. The Trudeaus do love a police state.

Third: the Liberals swear they will not bring back the gun registry. Considering the blatant lie in the first item, and their love of the police state in the second.....do we believe them??
 

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Spot-on in the analysis. In fact, if memory serves, the voter turn-out has been weak over the last 2 or 3 Fed elections.

All the same, the Liberals have not articulated any policies in the key areas of consideration; not even the easy ones like tax cuts, more money for this or that, the environment, etc, etc... When he does speak out, things like sending parkas to dessert refugees are not statements that inspire confidence.

In terms of the election rhetoric and negative ads, I've suggested this before, I really believe that the NDP is the party with the most to lose in this next election, and the Party that stands to benefit from a loss of interest in the NDP are the Liberals (specifically Trudeau).

Time will tell, but until Trudeau starts to listen to his advisors, his chances are continually slipping away
 

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I'd disagree... Trudeau is self-destructing, Harper is hitting his stride and the NDP, who knows but at best there will be a wash traed between the Libs and Dips with the potential for the Cons to pull a few from both

I haven't added up the seats yet. Atlantic Canada looks like they will go Liberal and Alberta and teh PRairies will go Conservative. Quebec is a mish-mash--all you can really say is that he Conservatives probably won't do well there (although theya re up in the polls there). Ontario and BC show the Liberals leading, but only slightly.

The Greens are also a threat to the Liberals and NDP--those three parties are all sharing the anti-Harper vote.

As for Trudeau--it's worth noting that teh Conservatvies have not actually gone up in the polls appreciably (except in Quebec), but the Liberals have come down. That's why it's closer now than earlier. That does speak to Trudeau losing support.
 

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The liberals want a police state, um, yeah, and so does any other political party. Who wouldn't? (and if you're gonna say the cons, give me a heads up first, so I can put on a pair of depends - don't want to make a mess pis*in myself laughing
 

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The liberals want a police state, um, yeah, and so does any other political party. Who wouldn't? (and if you're gonna say the cons, give me a heads up first, so I can put on a pair of depends - don't want to make a mess pis*in myself laughing

Funny, I never caught the Conservatives handing the police the right to decide what is, and is not legal. That was and is totally a Liberal thing, defended passionately by Idiot Boy.

But I grant you your point; everyone in power loves power.
 

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Funny, I never caught the Conservatives handing the police the right to decide what is, and is not legal. That was and is totally a Liberal thing, defended passionately by Idiot Boy.

But I grant you your point; everyone in power loves power.


I just got to thinking Colpy that the idea of Jr. being Prime Minister is scary enough, but not half as scary as the number of people (if its more than six) who actually think he could be a Prime Minister!
 

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Once again, the aggregates tell the true story.

Liberals still on top kiddies.

ThreeHundredEight.com: November 2014 federal polling averages

Cons will not get anywhere near a majority.

Prepare yourself for a Lib-NDP coalition.

Then they had best run on that platform, hadn't they?? Instead of playing "ambush" after the election.

You know as well as I do that a platform that included the possibility of a Lib/NDP coalition would drive votes to the Conservatives in droves........and guarantee the Conservatives a majority.
 
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Colpy

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Silly Colpy.

You know Conservatives are too old to drive.

I promise you, what you will see during the election campaign is both the NDP and Liberals swearing with their hands over their hearts that the very idea of a coalition is an abomination.

If they talk about it openly and approvingly, they lose.......BIG time.

Now, are you saying the Libs/NDP should deceive the people of Canada?
 

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i don't understand graphs, or believe in them.
but i do know,one thing,ontario has a lot of know all,and will do the right thing, i hope anyway,we need balance,i believe the people of Ontario are stategic voters with lots of knowledge.
Stephen Harper to me is a nice guy that really doesn't look like he is into the job of PM, he presents as bored and tired,his lovely wife presents as more in the game then our Honourable PM,when i view Mr. Harper i generate sympathy for him, as i believe he would prefer to be anywhere then in Ottawa,i just can't get excited for him.
Jim Prentice the Premier of Alberta will be coming soon to rescue Canadians,including Ontario.
 

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I promise you, what you will see during the election campaign is both the NDP and Liberals swearing with their hands over their hearts that the very idea of a coalition is an abomination.

If they talk about it openly and approvingly, they lose.......BIG time.

Now, are you saying the Libs/NDP should deceive the people of Canada?

I'm saying that if the Conservatives win a minority government, the people of this wonderful country of ours will emphatically support a coalition against them.

And if that happens, this country will have the best government in its entire history.

Much to the chagrin of the decrepit old bean counters.
 

Colpy

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I'm saying that if the Conservative get a minority government, the people of this wonderful country of ours will emphatically support a coalition against them.

And if that happens, this country will have the best government in its entire history.

Much to the chagrin of the decrepit old bean counters.

You are confused.

Joining socialists and progressives under a cognitively handicapped, dishonest, narcissistic PM is not a recipe for success. In fact, it is a recipe for disaster.

However, a coalition is within the boundaries of acceptable political practice.........it is just that if you want to do so, you should ask the people honestly.....that is all I am saying. Tell them a coalition is in the cards.

Because coalitions are not usual in Canadian politics. It would be a radical change. Fine, but be honest about it.

Is that not fair?
 

mentalfloss

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I am being honest about it.

It would competely shut out people like you from influencing the country.

What is there not to like?