Harper realizes he has a problem- Screwed veterans.

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Harper Sticks Up For Julian Fantino, Mocks NDP's 'Slow Descent'

Michael Den Tandt: At this point, the political career of Veterans Affairs Minister Julian Fantino seems past saving | National Post

For years Harper has screwed Veterans. The New Veterans Charter is almost a replica of what the UK brought in. Ceptin they saw flaws and addressed many of them.
They still have problems.
Now going into an election Steve realizes this is the underbelly where he will be attached, and rightfully so.
He made an idiot as veterans minister- a complete ffn moron. Now it is full tilt to a rescue of a moron and a failed policy.
Harper mouthed words of praise for veterans, and that is all it was. Words, not actions.
The problems have been detailed in articles, presented by Veterans Organizations, and squat.
Not 1 Veterans org has signed off on this.
Not one
The RCL - Royal Canadian Legion has been useless in fighting Harper on this. Cannot way into the public forum.
 

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If you peek just under the thin shell, you'll find the only competent minister harper had, is dead. Fantino is just the moron in the spotlight this week.
 

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Harper Sticks Up For Julian Fantino, Mocks NDP's 'Slow Descent'

Michael Den Tandt: At this point, the political career of Veterans Affairs Minister Julian Fantino seems past saving | National Post

For years Harper has screwed Veterans. The New Veterans Charter is almost a replica of what the UK brought in. Ceptin they saw flaws and addressed many of them.
They still have problems.
Now going into an election Steve realizes this is the underbelly where he will be attached, and rightfully so.
He made an idiot as veterans minister- a complete ffn moron. Now it is full tilt to a rescue of a moron and a failed policy.
Harper mouthed words of praise for veterans, and that is all it was. Words, not actions.
The problems have been detailed in articles, presented by Veterans Organizations, and squat.
Not 1 Veterans org has signed off on this.
Not one
The RCL - Royal Canadian Legion has been useless in fighting Harper on this. Cannot way into the public forum.

I find the PM's approach to this file to be completely hypocritical and 2-faced, Goob. He is always willing to praise our military. Yet when it comes to backing up those words he has fallen far short. The governments treatment of Vets and their families is shameful, IMHO.
 

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I have a few vets singing in my choirs and they don't know what the fuss is all about. They're experience with VA is wonderful.
 

Goober

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I have a few vets singing in my choirs and they don't know what the fuss is all about. They're experience with VA is wonderful.

Do they know about the New Veterans Charter?

Goober doesn't feel he gets enough. It's part of the entitlement culture that exists.

That deserves a red. Though I realize you no squat about the effects of the New Veterans Charter.
 

Goober

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Oh pumpkin! Does it really hurt your feelings that much when your motives are questioned?
Slim I am trying to educate an a-sshole.
So here it begins.
War over veterans’ mental health funding escalates - The Globe and Mail

The federal Conservative government is spending millions of new dollars on research into the mental health of veterans, but the money will be spread over a number of years and scientists say it is meagre compared with the size of the problem confronting Canada’s retiring military men and women.

Three federal cabinet ministers, including Veterans Affairs Minister Julian Fantino, announced last week that the government would spend $200-million more to expand mental-health initiatives for veterans, members of the military and their families. Included in that commitment was $6.98-million over six years for what staff in Mr. Fantino’s office described in e-mails to The Globe and Mail as “new cutting edge research.”

But two of the four research projects that will be funded with the new money – a Canadian Forces cancer and mortality study, and studies on life after service – are merely extensions of studies that have been conducted by Statistics Canada for many years.

And when asked if the new injection of money for research into veterans issues was sufficient, Ibolja Cernak, the chair in military and veterans clinical rehabilitation at the University of Alberta, said Wednesday: “The very short answer is definitely not.”

It amounts to a little more than $1.1-million a year, Dr. Cernak said. “To actually combine the basic science and clinical research that’s needed, $1.1-million, I am afraid, is a very, very meagre amount of money.”

The U.S. Department of Veterans Affairs plans to spend $1.9-billion for medical and prosthetic research in 2015.

Veterans Affairs Canada, on the other hand, will not say how much it spends on research annually, arguing that other branches of government also pay for studies affecting veterans and it would be wrong to provide its own figures without the numbers from other departments. Ashlee Smith, a spokeswoman for Mr. Fantino, said in an e-mail that her department maintains relationships with outside researchers and “employs a suite of researchers and data analysts to support efforts to improve on services and benefits for Veterans.”

But Dr. Cernak said there is a “huge gap” between the mental-health problems faced by veterans and the way they are being addressed. “All of these problems require very in-depth, very well-synchronized, very well-co-ordinated research studies,” she said.

Tim Black, a psychology professor at the University of Victoria who studies veterans’ transitions from military to civilian life, said federal funding for his type of research is not easy to obtain. The Veterans Affairs department does its own research, which tends to look at the big picture, Dr. Black said, “but we need to dig down and actually talk to veterans and see what are they struggling with, what are the biggest problems.”

Mr. Fantino has been facing opposition calls for his resignation since it was revealed last week that the bulk of the $200-million package of mental-health initiatives that the government said would be spent over six years would actually be doled out over a number of decades.

Meanwhile, the Auditor-General has released a report saying many vets are waiting months or years to access mental-health disability benefits. And Veterans Affairs Canada has shed nearly a quarter of its work force over the past five years even as bureaucrats warned that the changes could put the delivery of services to veterans and their families at risk.

“The minister is knowingly putting our veterans at risk. Instead of firing the staff, why does the Prime Minister not fire the minister?” NDP Leader Thomas Mulcair asked Wednesday in the House of Commons.

Prime Minister Stephen Harper replied that his government is providing good administration and good service for veterans. “We have taken resources out of backroom administration from bureaucracy,” he said. “We have put it into services. There are more benefits and more money for veterans than ever before, and more points of service.”



Canadian veteran who lost legs in Afghanistan ready for fight of his life: class-action suit against government | National Post

Major Mark Campbell was lying in a hospital bed, just starting to comprehend losing both his legs above the knees in a Taliban ambush, when he found out the federal government had stripped his lifetime military pension.

“I expected to just move off into the twilight and retire, but unfortunately it’s just like the cliche out of a Hollywood movie,” said the Edmonton man, describing the conclusion to 33-years of service after a final tour in Afghanistan.

“I come home and I find that, honestly, the biggest battle I’ve ever faced in my entire life is here at home against my very own government.”

Campbell, 49, is one of seven plaintiffs attempting to sue the federal government for drastic alterations to the Canadian Forces compensation regime, which applies to the newer generation of armed forces members injured in the line of service after 2006.
 

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Wa wa wa....

As a volunteer firefighter, I've seen some pretty nasty ****. I don't feel I'm entitled. Why do you?
 

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Wa wa wa....

As a volunteer firefighter, I've seen some pretty nasty ****. I don't feel I'm entitled. Why do you?

Slim I am not referring to myself. Why do you think that?
40,000 troops went thru A Stan. Your way is the same as Harper's.
 

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We know the Conservatives like to have their picture taken with the vets, especailly around Remembrance Day. But the reality for them is that soldiers are, for the most part, middle to lower-middle class people, and the point of the exercise is to transfer wealth from them to the rich. They don't like entitlement programs. They've managed to turn a lot of Canadians against them, from subsidized tuition, to welfare, to Employment Insurance, to civil service pensions. All welll and good, but most Canadians feel we owe our veterans a little entitlement. Fantino's probably raking in $300K a year with the perqs. That's a lot more than buddy patrrolling Kandahar.