Christian Intelligence

[gerryh]

Your facts are nonsense. You need to take a closer look at the level of religious belief in Europe, for starters. Denmark is certainly not 95% Christian, it's one of the most secular states on the planet. The real factor you're looking for is the difference between places where religion or some toxic dogma like communism that's tried to replace it has secular power.

You're right. Denmark.dk lists it as being 90% Protestant, but then, I'm sure we have some Catholics in there also, so maybe 95% is correct. Damn, gotta hate it when the self proclaimed brainiac screws up.


Facts and Statistics -The official website of Denmark

 

[Cliffy]

The only people God appeared to are the Jews and Arabs through their prophets. The rest of the world either developed their own religion or converted to Christianity or Islam. Ironically the people who claim God spoke to them directly are also the same people trying to destroy each other. God must be playing a cruel joke on those he personally touched.

That is because those other religions don't call the divine principle God. They have different names but it doesn't mean they were not given the "word". Are Christians, those that believe the unbelievable on faith, more intelligent because their god supposedly spoke directly to them or are they just beyond egotistical?

 

[MHz]

Are you seriously suggesting Mary of Bethany as the author of Revelation?

. . . and the Gospel of John (the Baptist) She would be the receiver of the 3 Epistle letters. Peter was one of the first ones so his words would fit the introduction in 1John:1. If Jesus gave her the task of looking after His mom then she would have gone to Greece and stayed put. With Peter and the Apostles in Jerusalem and there being more Disciples than just those 13 then it could still be quite 'factual' that Mary M. was in Rome gathering Gentiles for Jesus. She would have been at the Act:2 baptism where language barriers were removed. Paul wrote Romans so it is safe to sy he was in Rome and the other Apostles were free to move around after the 70AD scattering. James:1 references a scattering so that book was written after 70AD but before 120AD which is the upper limit for keeping a person alive as the 120 year mark is judgment day for them. If John and Jesus were called when they were about 30 the his Disciples could have also be about that same age. 30 in 30AD would mean in the grave by 120AD. The 'elect lady' in the epistles is Mary of Bethany as she is the most learned woman the Bible mentions. The difference being she was 'purified' when she and Jesus met, Mary M. was purified by Jesus. The NT even says Jesus loved only one Mary and it wasn't Mary M.
Her and Peter would be the ones in Rome that became the RCC so they have a bit of fact and a lot of errors as to who did what back then.

Sorry the reply took so long.

 

[Liberalman]

Jesus was a Jew.

 

[Harikrish]

Quote: Originally Posted by Harikrish
The only people God appeared to are the Jews and Arabs through their prophets. The rest of the world either developed their own religion or converted to Christianity or Islam. Ironically the people who claim God spoke to them directly are also the same people trying to destroy each other. God must be playing a cruel joke on those he personally touched

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That is because those other religions don't call the divine principle God. They have different names but it doesn't mean they were not given the "word". Are Christians, those that believe the unbelievable on faith, more intelligent because their god supposedly spoke directly to them or are they just beyond egotistical?

Prophets are found only in Judaism, Islam, Christianity and a few pagan religions like Ancient Greece and Zoroastrianism. Hinduism has no prophets neither do the Chinese. So God appears selective in the people he chooses to speak to through his prophets. Or the people who claim these powers are delusional and those that believed them were deluded. You can see the effects of this delusion in gathering of people staring at a cross or taking to the streets beating themselves with whips and knives till they bleed to mourn the loss of a prophet.
Millions of Catholics gather to see and hear the Pope speak of love, tolerance and acceptance. These basic tenets are so profound the majority of believers have struggled to practice it from time immemorial. What is it in the nature of these believers that they need to be led by the promise of God by deluded prophets?

 

[TIFFANYDICE]

You're right. Denmark.dk lists it as being 90% Protestant, but then, I'm sure we have some Catholics in there also, so maybe 95% is correct. Damn, gotta hate it when the self proclaimed brainiac screws up.


Facts and Statistics -The official website of Denmark

In china and north korea, GOD haters proclaim that they are the smartest people in the world, Religious man are fools. Kim Jong un teaches that NOrth Korea is the best country in the world with the strongest military, powerful army, happiest people and a selfless leader. be grateful.

Compare academic rankings and ratings of British Columbia schools

bc school ranking, how many of the leading schools are christian and catholic schools?

 

[Cliffy]

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Prophets are found only in Judaism, Islam, Christianity and a few pagan religions like Ancient Greece and Zoroastrianism. Hinduism has no prophets neither do the Chinese. So God appears selective in the people he chooses to speak to through his prophets. Or the people who claim these powers are delusional and those that believed them were deluded. You can see the effects of this delusion in gathering of people staring at a cross or taking to the streets beating themselves with whips and knives till they bleed to mourn the loss of a prophet.
Millions of Catholics gather to see and hear the Pope speak of love, tolerance and acceptance. These basic tenets are so profound the majority of believers have struggled to practice it from time immemorial. What is it in the nature of these believers that they need to be led by the promise of God by deluded prophets?

Not true. There were plenty of prophets amoung the native Americans: Hopi, Lakota, etc. Many of those prophesies have already been fulfilled.

 

[MHz]

In china and north korea, GOD haters proclaim that they are the smartest people in the world, Religious man are fools. Kim Jong un teaches that NOrth Korea is the best country in the world with the strongest military, powerful army, happiest people and a selfless leader. be grateful.

Are dragons in China's history real or imaginary. Satan is described as as a serpent, that is the appearance of a dragon when it is on the ground. The dragon (s) in the Bible are also literal and Satan was the one that first interacted with Adam and Eve in the garden area. (Ge:2 has specific dimensions) but all angelic beings would have that same ability on earth as well as being able to travel in the rest of the universe.
The Bible says that a return to the time of Noah would be part of the way things would be for the last 3 1/2 years. 10 men are said to be given kingdoms when that time begins and that is done in one day as they would know war would be a lost cause but they would be willing to use their war machines against unarmed people as ordered by that angelic being. If it is global this time then it will also be global this time even though the Serpent and the released fallen angel are the full power. The return has Christ conquering those 10 Kingdoms, it should be possible to look at the old earth ruins and pick 10 different spots that have the most impressive stone monuments.
My own view is the 'borders' will be language and the 10 largest languages will be the 10 kingdoms and by joining together on a common project they can almost reverse the Tower of Babel curse that God put on mankind. We could do that today for our own purposes without being directed as we were in the past as the tower was to get the one fallen angel that was not put in the Pit off the planet and back into his original home, anyplace on the other side of the moon. It will be a different project this time but it will be even more impressive as it will be a representation of the throne of God coming to be on holy ground in Jerusalem. We aren't that greedy I hope but nations could certainly work together better than they did in the past and it wouldn't interfere with any religion. I would assume one common theme is that no matter how many there are at the start it would be a process of elimination until only one was left. Jeremiah:25 is God telling him to travel to all corners of the world and 'mention' that the 'days of Noah' will make a return and then be destroyed forever and the people left alive will then live in peace forever. It is a two part plan.

 

[TIFFANYDICE]

Are dragons in China's history real or imaginary. Satan is described as as a serpent, that is the appearance of a dragon when it is on the ground. The dragon (s) in the Bible are also literal and Satan was the one that first interacted with Adam and Eve in the garden area. (Ge:2 has specific dimensions) but all angelic beings would have that same ability on earth as well as being able to travel in the rest of the universe.
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Dragon is called dinosaur today. The name of “dinosaur” was invented in modern days, but dragons have been co-existed for the same time as human being.
Dragon in China has nothing to do with evil or Satan.
Dragons in Bible also have different meanings. When Bible describes Satan as serpent or dragon, it is a metaphor, it does not mean the animal of serpent or dragon is evil, they are just animals. Bible also describes Satan as lions (1 Peter 5:8 , ), it does not mean lion is a symbol of evil; they just share something in common such as powerful and invincible.
In Job chapter 40 and 41, if you check the original Hebrew, you will find out it is talking about dinosaurs. It is the king of all animals. Chinese use dragon as the symbol of power, emperors use it as their symbol, because the emperor was the king of men and the dragon was the king of animals. It has nothing to do with evil or Satan. The emperor himself is not he symbol of evil, there are good and bad emperors. Modern China is different from Ancient China. In Ancient China, people worship the only one God, the emperor burned sacrifice to God every year. The sacrifice had the meaning of repentance and atonement. They respected the mandate of heaven and the law of loving people. Ancient Chinese were also very intelligent, they invented everything themselves and enjoyed prosperity. When the nation obeyed the mandate of heaven, the nation was wealthy and the people had peace with the emperor. When the nation disobeyed the mandate of heaven, the nation was in war and chaos, people fight each other. Ancient Chinese were huge different from modern Chinese. Atheism is ruining this nation. Just compare South Korea and North Korea, same ethnic, different destinies. South Korea inherited the culture of ancient china, where the mandate of heaven always came first, and now, many Korean people upgraded to the new covenant. There is a reason of prosperity.



Just like Lock ness monster, In the lake of “Tian chi”, Changbai mountain in China, There have been many witness of lake monsters. They are the same kind of dinosaurs as Lock ness.
Watch this documentary, Dinosaurs didn’t die 65 millions years ago, they are still alive today
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHesNW9WnDM
Africa's Surviving Dinosaurs (Full Documentary)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmgJDo1aR1o
Chinese lock ness:
http://blog.ifeng.com/article/1046255.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lake_Tianchi_Monster

Just like it is described in the Bible, Dinosaurs love to live in the water. In every story about dragon in ancient China, dragons live in the water. They have many legends about the kingdom of dragons, the dragon king built palace in the deep sea.
Shark-eating Dinosaurs rocks paleontologists' world
http://www.thestarphoenix.com/technology/Shark+eating+Spinosaurus+rocks+paleontologists+world/10197323/story.html

Among the 12 Chinese Zodiac Animals, everyone is real. Dragon is as real as other 11 animals. It is absurd that ancient Chinese used 11 real animals as symbols to describe characters but only one is imaginary. The truth is, everyone is real including dragon.
(The Shēngxiào, literally "birth likeness", is also known in English as the Chinese zodiac. Zodiac derives from the similar concept in western astrology and means "circle of animals". It is a scheme and systematic plan of future action that relates each year to an animal and its reputed attributes according to a 12-year cycle, and it remains popular in several East Asian countries including China, Vietnam, Korea and Japan.)
Pictures:
http://catherinehuang.pixnet.net/blog/post/159823340-the-12-chinese-zodiac-animals

 

[darkbeaver]

Many dragon stories can be related to comets.

 

[EagleSmack]

Not true. There were plenty of prophets amoung the native Americans: Hopi, Lakota, etc. Many of those prophesies have already been fulfilled.

Wannabee

 

[MHz]

Many dragon stories can be related to comets.

As in they come from the same place?
Were they so bad that they didn't have many men be willing servants. We don't improve on the things that were taught back then and we seem to have been dumbed down at least twice since we started taking dominion over the area around us. 4,000BC and before that man was based on being the 'seed; of the 4 beast that stand around the temple serving God. Ge:1 is based on life in the air and land as being from 'seeds' and they would qualify as the 'star people' and that goes back billions of years and the terra-forming of the earth. They work with dry material, hotter or colder than that of water between vapor and ice. That is the 'God particle' in that finding and keeping that condition does make this a one of a kind, let alone that 4B years it has existed, we are the latest edition so no matter how long that is the beginning was still long before that. Is that in dragon time in that a 'day at the office' saw 100 year war fought before morning coffee.

(in the animated series)
Angels are said to come from the land of 'fiery stones' so the dragon's breath would be the forge. So far there are no animations of dragons mass producing jewelery for those in it's 'kingdom' in that it would keep several trains running 24/7 to keep the warehouse from overfilling. Sodom is depicted as being the 'standard' for 'evil city as run by men, drinking and immoral sex' and we would call it a 'party gone wild' and it attracts people rather than repulses them. These 'other ones' are more interested in a different kind of power from the immortality they currently have. Charity comes from remorse, hopefully thoughts of remorse, rather than actual regret as that involves pain for somebody other than yourself, too much pain on them for you to bear, to be more correct.

Angels manifest into different forms, the 4 fallen angels that manifest into 200M horsemen should be viewed as 'a single engine equal to 200M horsepower on the Roman energy scale. The one that Christ sends to the lake is said to manifest into a bunch of 'smaller versions' that also smaller in power. They are 'more powerful because that 'number' is so much bigger than the 200M HP If they can do that to all people then their whole number is close to 6B, Satan when released is said to be with viewed as 'sand of the sea' which is smaller than the Beast's manifestation as and in the whole earth is an even larger number meaning smaller yet more powerful is possible even at that level. Their interaction before the flood could aalso be in those numbers could it not.

An animated series and the scripts are already in the public domain realm. What a horror show for TPTB. I still think the part about some fingers piercing the sky and peeling it back and a voice saying 'What's going on in here.' is about as good an ending as you are going to get as what is behind that opening is something that is in place for a very long time.

 

[darkbeaver]

As in they come from the same place?
Were they so bad that they didn't have many men be willing servants. We don't improve on the things that were taught back then and we seem to have been dumbed down at least twice since we started taking dominion over the area around us. 4,000BC and before that man was based on being the 'seed; of the 4 beast that stand around the temple serving God. Ge:1 is based on life in the air and land as being from 'seeds' and they would qualify as the 'star people' and that goes back billions of years and the terra-forming of the earth. They work with dry material, hotter or colder than that of water between vapor and ice. That is the 'God particle' in that finding and keeping that condition does make this a one of a kind, let alone that 4B years it has existed, we are the latest edition so no matter how long that is the beginning was still long before that. Is that in dragon time in that a 'day at the office' saw 100 year war fought before morning coffee.

(in the animated series)
Angels are said to come from the land of 'fiery stones' so the dragon's breath would be the forge. So far there are no animations of dragons mass producing jewelery for those in it's 'kingdom' in that it would keep several trains running 24/7 to keep the warehouse from overfilling. Sodom is depicted as being the 'standard' for 'evil city as run by men, drinking and immoral sex' and we would call it a 'party gone wild' and it attracts people rather than repulses them. These 'other ones' are more interested in a different kind of power from the immortality they currently have. Charity comes from remorse, hopefully thoughts of remorse, rather than actual regret as that involves pain for somebody other than yourself, too much pain on them for you to bear, to be more correct.

Angels manifest into different forms, the 4 fallen angels that manifest into 200M horsemen should be viewed as 'a single engine equal to 200M horsepower on the Roman energy scale. The one that Christ sends to the lake is said to manifest into a bunch of 'smaller versions' that also smaller in power. They are 'more powerful because that 'number' is so much bigger than the 200M HP If they can do that to all people then their whole number is close to 6B, Satan when released is said to be with viewed as 'sand of the sea' which is smaller than the Beast's manifestation as and in the whole earth is an even larger number meaning smaller yet more powerful is possible even at that level. Their interaction before the flood could aalso be in those numbers could it not.

An animated series and the scripts are already in the public domain realm. What a horror show for TPTB. I still think the part about some fingers piercing the sky and peeling it back and a voice saying 'What's going on in here.' is about as good an ending as you are going to get as what is behind that opening is something that is in place for a very long time.

I have copied your post so I can compose a reply to your complex explosion. Your biblical knowledge amazes me, but I'm stupid so it means nothing.

 

[MHz]

Dragon is called dinosaur today. The name of “dinosaur” was invented in modern days, but dragons have been co-existed for the same time as human being.

Birds would have co-evolved with the forests as far back as the end of day 3 which is 40M years. fruit trees attracy lots of birds so if the planet gets covered with them I don't have an issue with T-rex having wings and teeth meant for stripping fruit off trees. If you make them owl feathers that just sends a chill up and down my spine.

Dragon in China has nothing to do with evil or Satan.

Nor does 'sons of God' in the OT as they are angelic in power, so are fallen ones. The one difference is only fallen ones have ruled on the earth and that would be in any sort of memory or legend.
Once fallen they all seemed to have gone full tilt rather than just a little but that interaction only happened in the 'recent past' Being angelic their time in space would go back to it's beginning and they would be witnesses to all that God did to created the universe just so this place could exist and God could walk bare-foot on something called 'grass'. The rest' is the support system that the Holy Spirit created so that grass could exist' That is power, the words and thoughts and results of those determine what is good or evil. The serpent and all sons of God are under the Law in Re:21 as they are 'immortal' and cannot be sent to the grave. Only one dragon has been on earth and the 1/3 of all angelic beings that have rejected God have a specific fate the other 2/3 are given more rewards than they already have, just like men get rewards that elevated us into the realm of being just like the dragons

Dragons in Bible also have different meanings. When Bible describes Satan as serpent or dragon, it is a metaphor, it does not mean the animal of serpent or dragon is evil, they are just animals.

Animals arten't immortal and they do not understand the difference between good and evil. The sons of God in Ge:6 and Job are higher beings that we are. Juse is a summation of what Enoch tells us about these beings. It took 10,000 holy angels to put the angels that were on the earth into a prison in the earth. In Revelation satan comes from above, the other 5 fallen angels from from out of the ground and that specifiv dragon will be put into a smoking hole in Israel for the 1,000 year reign, literally.

Bible also describes Satan as lions (1 Peter 5:8 , ), it does not mean lion is a symbol of evil; they just share something in common such as powerful and invincible.

In that cxase they devour, that is a reference tio them being of great strength but being void of emotions they do not make good shepherds when a flock that is pain free is one of the first goals of having something under your dominion.

In Job chapter 40 and 41, if you check the original Hebrew, you will find out it is talking about dinosaurs. It is the king of all animals.

I don't have an issue with history going that far back, adaptation is allowed, species jumping from air/land/water creature doesn't happen. A bird choosing to live in the water will adapt into a whale over a million years or so, that still is an adaptation and not a new species.

Chinese use dragon as the symbol of power, emperors use it as their symbol, because the emperor was the king of men and the dragon was the king of animals.

Men are lesser in strength than an angelic being, they have charity, that means when they are given control good things happen rather than it all going wrong. Dragon equal bull, bull in china shop is dragon taking care of a group of people.

It has nothing to do with evil or Satan. The emperor himself is not he symbol of evil, there are good and bad emperors.

The law was not broken until interacting with humans happened, that means even dragons are under law rather than being the law givers.

Modern China is different from Ancient China. In Ancient China, people worship the only one God, the emperor burned sacrifice to God every year. The sacrifice had the meaning of repentance and atonement. They respected the mandate of heaven and the law of loving people. Ancient Chinese were also very intelligent, they invented everything themselves and enjoyed prosperity.

I'm thinking gunpowder was meant to be aimed from when it was first discovered.

When the nation obeyed the mandate of heaven, the nation was wealthy and the people had peace with the emperor. When the nation disobeyed the mandate of heaven, the nation was in war and chaos, people fight each other. Ancient Chinese were huge different from modern Chinese. Atheism is ruining this nation. Just compare South Korea and North Korea, same ethnic, different destinies. South Korea inherited the culture of ancient china, where the mandate of heaven always came first, and now, many Korean people upgraded to the new covenant. There is a reason of prosperity.

The baseline today is a set of human rights documents meant to be applies as the minimal in terms of what women and children should get before the men go off on their various hobby things, expensive hobby things.

Just like Lock ness monster, In the lake of “Tian chi”, Changbai mountain in China, There have been many witness of lake monsters. They are the same kind of dinosaurs as Lock ness.

Move them out of the water and into the air and that is more in line with angelic being, now add a lot of university degrees as well as journeymen trades and that is what these 'fish' can do.

I have copied your post so I can compose a reply to your complex explosion. Your biblical knowledge amazes me, but I'm stupid so it means nothing.

Rothschild greed meets Keystoned Cops finesse x 10,000

 

[Harikrish]

I have copied your post so I can compose a reply to your complex explosion. Your biblical knowledge amazes me, but I'm stupid so it means nothing.

You are typical of most believers. You are amazed with the Bible but too stupid to get its meaning.

 

[MHz]

I was looking for the post where you said the Bible's authors were 'uneducated bumkinns' or close. I think my reply said God used powers of 10 in Ge:1 so God is quite 'modern' in His thinking. Here is another example of the 'ancients' doing things long before modern man. In WWII when the US was developing 'the bomb' to keep R&D secret the program was compartmentalized in that many small projects resulted in a program that only a few knew the full scope of. The Bible is quite clear in that the beginning and end are in the first and last 3 chapters of the whole Bible and those chapters fit together in a fashion that tends to support that the one who wrote the first 3 also wrote the last 3 so that same reader (us, as we can access all the writings with just a few mouse clicks) it works out that none of the 40 Scribes used would have been able to put all the pieces together. They may have had knowledge that the other books existed but all the inner connection and references would have not been known but we can certainly do it if we treat it as something intelligent rather than random writings. It loses that 'random' part when the inside of the book focuses on one verse in the opening 3 chapters.

Symbolism would be the two flaming swords left to guard the tree of life. Wind is one and the sun's heat is the other one. It evaporated the moisture so it became a desert like it was in Ge:2 and the Dead Sea went from being like it is described In Eze:47 (body of fresh water) into what it is today.

That being said the visions in Da:7 and Re:17 are also symbolic, the explanations that go with the visions are not, they are quite easily understood when looking only at a literal meaning.

 

[Harikrish]

The people were surprised Jesus surrounded himself with uneducated illiterates.

Acts 4:13 When they saw the courage of Peter and John and realized that they were unschooled, ordinary men, they were astonished and they took note that these men had been with Jesus.

Also according to Mark his disciples were as dumb as the crowds because even they did not understand what Jesus was ranting. Jesus had to explain it all over to them privately.

Mark 4:34 In fact, in his public ministry he never taught without using parables; but afterward, when he was alone with his disciples, he explained everything to them.

Here we know Jesus had to explain to his disciples everything he said in his sermons.

So who was there to explain to Peter or the disciples after Jesus was gone, after he was put to death. That is why you see so much confusion in their messages. They had to be put away and eventually that too came to pass. All the 12 disciples and Paul were put to death

 

[MHz]

The people were surprised Jesus surrounded himself with uneducated illiterates.

Even more surprised when they produced the Gospel written in flawless Greek.

Acts 4:13 When they saw the courage of Peter and John and realized that they were unschooled, ordinary men, they were astonished and they took note that these men had been with Jesus.

Also according to Mark his disciples were as dumb as the crowds because even they did not understand what Jesus was ranting. Jesus had to explain it all over to them privately.

Mark, ???? 3 Apostles saw 2 special events, do you find it impossible to apply those names to the books? It is helpful when reading about the events at the cross)

Mark 4:34 In fact, in his public ministry he never taught without using parables; but afterward, when he was alone with his disciples, he explained everything to them.

Not unlike private tutors these days. Parables use generic terms so the guilty don't feel offended.

Here we know Jesus had to explain to his disciples everything he said in his sermons.

That is also a prophecy

So who was there to explain to Peter or the disciples after Jesus was gone, after he was put to death. That is why you see so much confusion in their messages. They had to be put away and eventually that too came to pass. All the 12 disciples and Paul were put to death

Did you miss Acts:2?

 

[Harikrish]

Even more surprised when they produced the Gospel written in flawless Greek.


Mark, ???? 3 Apostles saw 2 special events, do you find it impossible to apply those names to the books? It is helpful when reading about the events at the cross)


Not unlike private tutors these days. Parables use generic terms so the guilty don't feel offended.


That is also a prophecy


Did you miss Acts:2?

The flawless Greek comes from Paul and not the original 12 disciples. Read your bible.

 

[darkbeaver]

You are typical of most believers. You are amazed with the Bible but too stupid to get its meaning.

In it's present form it has no meaning, that was by design. It is a jumbled mess of books borrowed from the previous ten thousand years.
BIBLE translation = (pile of books). The stupid part is correct though. I believe in the bible I own, I use it every day, the couch would list to port without it.