The Duke of Wellington Gets No Respect

[Blackleaf]

No it wasn't. It was just another case of the inferior offspring of great men losing all their forefathers had won. A trend that has continued to this day.

Ireland was different. Between 1801 and 1922 it wasn't a mere unimportant, second-rate colony like America, or the Jewel in the Crown of colonies, India. It wasn't a colony. Ireland was an actual part of the United Kingdom. People travelling on a ship from Liverpool to Dublin or from Bristol to Cork were travelling within their own country. The British Empire also belonged to Ireland and it was partly run and policed by Irishmen. The Paddies played as much a part in the running and controlling of the British Empire as the English, Scottish and Welsh did. You can't put Ireland in the same bracket as Yankeeland, Canada, India, Australia, Kenya, Malta, Cyprus, Ceylon and the rest. Those places were never a part of the United Kingdom itself. They were colonies.

 

[taxslave]

Who's the Duke of Wellington?? Nah, never mind, nobody important.

Old musician.

 

[Nuggler]

By jeez, ya learn something ever day..........Wellington and the clap. Who wudda thought !!

 

[Sal]

By jeez, ya learn something ever day..........Wellington and the clap. Who wudda thought !!

ya gotta drop by more offen eh...the enlightenment from intelligentsia...off the charts I tell ya

 

[captain morgan]

By jeez, ya learn something ever day..........Wellington and the clap. Who wudda thought !!

It shouldn't come as much of a surprise though, especially when your hanging around nicknamed old boner (reference below)

The Duke really should be a little more selective in that regard

Wellington is the man who saved Europe from Old Boney and the bloody Frenchies. Show some respect.

 

[Twila]

So how much of that 10000 is for the guy with the ladder to remove the cone and how much for the legions of bureaucraps to study the matte, come up with an action plan, have community meeting and write the work order?

And how much of it was to figure out how much it cost to do that?

 

[SLM]

Aretha Franklin - Respect [1967] (Original Version) - YouTube

 

[Blackleaf]

Old musician.

There are many pubs throughout Britain named in honour of the great man:

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And talking of Glasgow, Scotland are playing England tonight at Celtic Park in a "friendly" match, the first time England have played in Scotland since November 1999. It is the world's oldest, and most played, internation football fixture, with the teams meeting each other tonight for a record 112th time. The last time they played each other, in August 2013 at Wembley, England won 3-2.

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

There are many pubs throughout Britain named in honour of the great man:

Where, to honour the great man, BNP-Liters get puking-in-the-streets drunk and attack passersby.

 

[Blackleaf]

Where, to honour the great man, BNP-Liters get puking-in-the-streets drunk and attack passersby.

What about all the Labour, Liberal Democrats and Green Party voters getting drunk in the streets and attacking passers-by?

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

Don't be ridiculous. Lefties aren't manly enough to fight. That's the province of skinhead lager louts who vote UKIP on the rare occasions that they're conscious during polling times.

 

[Blackleaf]

Don't be ridiculous. Lefties aren't manly enough to fight. That's the province of skinhead lager louts who vote UKIP on the rare occasions that they're conscious during polling times.

Lefties are much more violent than any "skinhead lager louts." Just watch a peaceful EDL march and then compare that with the violence that ensues when the violent Left-wing UAF scum and their Islamist allies turn up.

As for getting drunk, you're just jealous that it's much more difficult to get drunk in North America with all that watered down, low-alcohol-content drink that you have there.

 

[Twila]

Old musician.

I think your thinking Duke Ellington. Jazz legend.
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[Nuggler]

It shouldn't come as much of a surprise though, especially when your hanging around nicknamed old boner (reference below)

The Duke really should be a little more selective in that regard

Why do the Limeys call them high boots, wellingtons ?
Something to do with sheep?

Did the English invent velcro gloves too?

 

[IdRatherBeSkiing]

And how much of it was to figure out how much it cost to do that?

A firehose would be cheaper.

 

[Twila]

A firehose would be cheaper.

Would it? They'd need to do up a cost analysis and compare the costs. This might require some off site visits (rental car, airfare, hotel) and food supplied for the various meetings this would entail.

 

[Completelylegal]

The good Duke was quite the dude. He was basically useless, an aide that was known as a partier and a competent violinist in Ireland......until King Louis XVI was beheaded. On the day he learned the news, Lord Wellesley burned his violin, and swore vengence.

Subsequently, he had a better military record than that "military genius" Napolean. In Spain, he tied down pro French forces badly needed elsewhere, and made fools out of some of Napolean's best generals. He minimized casualties by his strategic principle of always having a prepared position to retreat towards if necessary. He also minimized casualties by allowing troops not yet engaged to lie down behind high groud, keeping them out of the path of enemy cannon fire.

And.....Waterloo.

A great man.

Waterloo was a last stand by Napoleon, an emperor in the run. The great battles of that era dwarfed Waterloo.

Wellington is the man who saved Europe from Old Boney and the bloody Frenchies. Show some respect.

I think the Russians might have something to say about that.

 

[Colpy]

Waterloo was a last stand by Napoleon, an emperor in the run. The great battles of that era dwarfed Waterloo.

True.

And, as a General, the Duke simply out performed Napolean on any basis you care to investigate.

I think the Russians might have something to say about that.

Fair enough...........but it was the Duke that put him down for the last time, and for good.

 

[Completelylegal]

I know. It's one of the tragedies of modern history.

But there are a good few Paddies who wish their country rejoined the UK, especially in light of their crippling economic crash. The British government should hold talks with the Irish government about a possible reunification.

Not many.

True.

And, as a General, the Duke simply out performed Napolean on any basis you care to investigate.



Fair enough...........but it was the Duke that put him down for the last time, and for good.

On the day, Napoleon was defeated but I think there reasons why Napoleon has inspired so many authors to write about him. He was an extraordinary figure, a foreigner of no consequence who rose to dominate France and defeat the great European powers. His reorganization of France and its laws survives to this day. The ideas of meritocracy that he championed were not forgotten after his fall. He created the template for the modern European state.

I don't think Wellington could have achieved all that in Napoleon's shoes.

BTW the Can Con here is a bit hard to see.

Not many.



On the day, Napoleon was defeated but I think there reasons why Napoleon has inspired so many authors to write about him. He was an extraordinary figure, a foreigner of no consequence who rose to dominate France and defeat the great European powers. His reorganization of France and its laws survives to this day. The ideas of meritocracy that he championed were not forgotten after his fall. He created the template for the modern European state.

I don't think Wellington could have achieved all that in Napoleon's shoes.

BTW the Can Con here is a bit hard to see.

The Duke gets a lot of respect. There is no way anybody could complain about that. The Russians, on the other hand....