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[Goober]

Absolutely.

Of course the majority of Muslims are decent people.

But they are not truly followers of Islam.

How would you know that?

 

[gore0bsessed]

I meant from imams and leaders of the Muslim community, but I try to keep .my messages short to the obsessed one.

you've earned the right to be cocky, cause you've clearly proven to be so much smarter..

lmfao..

 

[petros]

How would you know that?

They are like Christians and Jews. Religious when convenient

 

[Goober]

They are like Christians and Jews. Religious when convenient

Again, stats, or personal opinion?

 

[gore0bsessed]

Absolutely.

And they are apostates from Islam......obviously, because Islam demands Muslims must not take the infidels as friends (3:28), and that is the very mildest of instructions on how to treat the infidel. The others include beheading, crucifixion, and war.

Of course the majority of Muslims are decent people.

But they are not truly followers of Islam.

so you're the determinant of who is muslim or not because you read a sentence of the qu'ran online? what nonsense are you spewing..?
this is the reality, anyone who is religious holds some extremist view.. whether it be anti-homophobia or anti-abortion.. etc.....
religion is not a good thing imo, because it has no basis in reality...

 

[Colpy]

"Senseless" Speak - Obama Calls Canada Attack Act Of Violence - Radical Islam - Mark Steyn - F&F - YouTube

so you're the determinant of who is muslim or not because you read a sentence of the qu'ran online? what nonsense are you spewing..?
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A SENTENCE????

• Slay the unbelievers wherever you find them(2:191)
• Make war on the infidels living in your neighboorhood (9:123)
• When opportunity arises, kill the infidels wherever you catch them (9:5)
• Kill the Jews and the Christians if they do not convert to Islam or refuse to pay Jizya tax (9:29)
• Any religion other than Islam is not acceptable (3:85)
• The Jews and the Christians are perverts; fight them (9:30)
• Maim and crucify the infidels if they criticise Islam. (5:33)
• The infidels are unclean; do not let them into a mosque (9:28)
• Punish the unbelievers with garments of fire, hooked iron rods, boiling water; melt their skin and bellies
  (22:19)
• Do not hanker for peace with the infidels; behead them when you catch them (47:4)
• The unbelievers are stupid; urge the Muslims to fight them (8:65)
• Muslims must not take the infidels as friends (3:28)
• Terrorise and behead those who believe in scriptures other than the Qur’an (8:12)
• Muslims must muster all weapons to terrorise the infidels (8:60)

The text of the Koran is undeniable. How can you be Muslim and still support our Constitution?

As I keep telling you, ISIS is the purest form of Islam.

this is the reality, anyone who is religious holds some extremist view.. whether it be anti-homophobia or anti-abortion.. etc.....
religion is not a good thing imo, because it has no basis in reality...

Anti-homophobia??

Anti-abortion is HARDLY extremist.

And you live in a free country because the development of democracy sprang from the philosophy of John Locke, who believed that all men were equal on earth BECAUSE they were equal in God's eyes. I guess even you must admit religion is good for something. At least some religion.

You could say the same thing about many Christians.

You certainly could, although apostacy in Christianity no longer carries any penalty.

 

[gerryh]

"Senseless" Speak - Obama Calls Canada Attack Act Of Violence - Radical Islam - Mark Steyn - F&F - YouTube



A SENTENCE????

• Slay the unbelievers wherever you find them(2:191)
• Make war on the infidels living in your neighboorhood (9:123)
• When opportunity arises, kill the infidels wherever you catch them (9:5)
• Kill the Jews and the Christians if they do not convert to Islam or refuse to pay Jizya tax (9:29)
• Any religion other than Islam is not acceptable (3:85)
• The Jews and the Christians are perverts; fight them (9:30)
• Maim and crucify the infidels if they criticise Islam. (5:33)
• The infidels are unclean; do not let them into a mosque (9:28)
• Punish the unbelievers with garments of fire, hooked iron rods, boiling water; melt their skin and bellies
  (22:19)
• Do not hanker for peace with the infidels; behead them when you catch them (47:4)
• The unbelievers are stupid; urge the Muslims to fight them (8:65)
• Muslims must not take the infidels as friends (3:28)
• Terrorise and behead those who believe in scriptures other than the Qur’an (8:12)
• Muslims must muster all weapons to terrorise the infidels (8:60)

The text of the Koran is undeniable. How can you be Muslim and still support our Constitution?

As I keep telling you, ISIS is the purest form of Islam.



.

So, I should tell my co worker that her husband and his family aren't true believers. Is that right?

 

[Colpy]

So, I should tell my co worker that her husband and his family aren't true believers. Is that right?

Why would you do such a thing??

Let them live their lives, certainly neither you (nor I) should be so arrogant as to dictate to someone else the validity of their personal belief.

Although we have every right to have an opinion on the subject, there is a distinct line between believing something and trying to shove it down someone else's throats....

 

[gerryh]

Why would you do such a thing??

Let them live their lives, certainly neither you (nor I) should be so arrogant as to dictate to someone else the validity of their personal belief.

Although we have every right to have an opinion on the subject, there is a distinct line between believing something and trying to shove it down someone else's throats....

ROFLMFAO...really? You can say this with a straight face? Wow.

 

[Colpy]

ROFLMFAO...really? You can say this with a straight face? Wow.

Yep.

You got a problem with that??

Please elucidate the depth of your lack of perception, and I shall enlighten you with a a glad heart.

 

[gerryh]

Yep.

You got a problem with that??

Please eludicate the depth of your lack of perception, and I shall enlighten you with a a glad heart.

Not me with the perception problem buddy boy. I'm not the one saying they are not true followers of Islam on one hand and then stating that telling them that is arrogant.

 

[Colpy]

Not me with the perception problem buddy boy. I'm not the one saying they are not true followers of Islam on one hand and then stating that telling them that is arrogant.

I am not allowed to have an opinion on the matter, unless I proceed to insult those Muslims of my acquaintance? (to say nothing of perhaps nudging them towards acts of political violence)

 

[gore0bsessed]

"Senseless" Speak - Obama Calls Canada Attack Act Of Violence - Radical Islam - Mark Steyn - F&F - YouTube



A SENTENCE????

• Slay the unbelievers wherever you find them(2:191)
• Make war on the infidels living in your neighboorhood (9:123)
• When opportunity arises, kill the infidels wherever you catch them (9:5)
• Kill the Jews and the Christians if they do not convert to Islam or refuse to pay Jizya tax (9:29)
• Any religion other than Islam is not acceptable (3:85)
• The Jews and the Christians are perverts; fight them (9:30)
• Maim and crucify the infidels if they criticise Islam. (5:33)
• The infidels are unclean; do not let them into a mosque (9:28)
• Punish the unbelievers with garments of fire, hooked iron rods, boiling water; melt their skin and bellies
  (22:19)
• Do not hanker for peace with the infidels; behead them when you catch them (47:4)
• The unbelievers are stupid; urge the Muslims to fight them (8:65)
• Muslims must not take the infidels as friends (3:28)
• Terrorise and behead those who believe in scriptures other than the Qur’an (8:12)
• Muslims must muster all weapons to terrorise the infidels (8:60)

The text of the Koran is undeniable. How can you be Muslim and still support our Constitution?

As I keep telling you, ISIS is the purest form of Islam.

..but this crap was written thousands of years ago and most sane Muslims don't take it by heart..

Anti-homophobia??

Anti-abortion is HARDLY extremist.

anti-abortion is very extremist, it's anti-choice, anti-woman, how much more extremist can you get?

And you live in a free country because the development of democracy sprang from the philosophy of John Locke, who believed that all men were equal on earth BECAUSE they were equal in God's eyes. I guess even you must admit religion is good for something. At least some religion.

"free".... we have the highest economic inequality in the west, high homelessness and poverty, broken education system, broken mental health care system, there's NO "men are equal" doctrine we apply here in the west in the west even remotely....... in fact many will argue men are not equal...

 

[Colpy]

anti-abortion is very extremist, it's anti-choice, anti-woman, how much more extremist can you get?

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Belief in a law restricting abortion runs at the very least 40+% in this country, and in some very reputable surveys as high as 62%, with more women wanting restrictiions than men.

That, by definition, makes the view not at all extremist, but completely main stream.

..but this crap was written thousands of years ago and most sane Muslims don't take it by heart..

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Most sane Muslims are not devoted followers of Islam

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"free".... we have the highest economic inequality in the west, high homelessness and poverty, broken education system, broken mental health care system, there's NO "men are equal" doctrine we apply here in the west in the west even remotely....... in fact many will argue men are not equal...

And name a civilization that has done it better...........because modern democracy sprang from the ideals of John Locke and the fact of the American Revolution.

 

[gerryh]

anti-abortion is very extremist, it's anti-choice, anti-woman, how much more extremist can you get?

actually, the extremist stance is the opposite end. The end you stand at. Unfettered murder of unborn children.

"free".... we have the highest economic inequality in the west, high homelessness and poverty, broken education system, broken mental health care system, there's NO "men are equal" doctrine we apply here in the west in the west even remotely....... in fact many will argue men are not equal...

Let's see some stats on those claims, bubba.

 

[gore0bsessed]

Belief in a law restricting abortion runs at the very least 40+% in this country, and in some very reputable surveys as high as 62%, with more women wanting restrictiions than men.

doesn't make it right..
if you think about it critically you have to acknowledge ultimately the woman deserves the final word on what she should do with her own body..........

 

[mentalfloss]

I am not allowed to have an opinion on the matter, unless I proceed to insult those Muslims of my acquaintance? (to say nothing of perhaps nudging them towards acts of political violence)

Colpy, he's just identifying a fallacy that to be honest, I can see how you feel that way.

You can still continue to have that opinion but I agree with him that you are contradicting yourself.

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

actually, the extremist stance is the opposite end. The end you stand at. Unfettered murder of unborn children.

Not at all. The extremist stance is where I stand (don't end a sentence with a preposition). Unfettered murder of children up until age 18. 27 for jerks, and 45 for real a$$holes.

 

[gerryh]

doesn't make it right..
if you think about it critically you have to acknowledge ultimately the woman deserves the final word on what she should do with her own body..........

She does, without abortion. But then, the selfish feel that they should also have the right to murder that which is an inconvenience.

Wanna guarantee you don't get pregnant? Exercise your RIGHT not to have sex.

I have a feeling it is horny men that push more for "abortion rights". They don't want to see their potential sex partners diminish.

Not at all. The extremist stance is where I stand (don't end a sentence with a preposition). Unfettered murder of children up until age 18. 27 for jerks, and 45 for real a$$holes.

and yet you are still here. I guess your stance doesn't apply to yourself.

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

and yet you are still here. I guess your stance doesn't apply to yourself.

Just haven't found anybody with the balls and skill to take me down yet.

And calculate I won't find one here..