The shootings in Ottawa won't change this country
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Actually it would be nice if he offered up an apology for using the shootings yesterday as a springboard to play internet. But I don't expect we'll see that either.
a spiteful immature punk...I actually held out a petit peu of respect once upon a time but don't hold your breath on anything resembling contrite honesty from that troll.
"After all the chaos and horror, NDP Leader Tom Mulcair sounded a reassuring note.
"Canada is shaken today but we shall not waver. We woke up this morning in a country blessed by love, diversity and peace. And tomorrow, we will do the same."
http://www.cbc.ca/m/news/politics/ot...y-on-1.2809783 "
I watched Thomas Mulcair as he spoke following the tragedy and heroism yesterday and was very touched by his words and his manner of delivery. His sincerity was most apparent.
Too bad I don't agree with his politics as I do have some admiration for the man.
"Canada is shaken today but we shall not waver. We woke up this morning in a country blessed by love, diversity and peace. And tomorrow, we will do the same."
http://www.cbc.ca/m/news/politics/ot...y-on-1.2809783 "
I watched Thomas Mulcair as he spoke following the tragedy and heroism yesterday and was very touched by his words and his manner of delivery. His sincerity was most apparent.
Too bad I don't agree with his politics as I do have some admiration for the man.
Reminds me somewhat of when Layton just died and Alley or InBetweenMan (whatever he's calling himself these days) made some really crass comments. I mean, hate the man's politics or whatever, but you don't take a crap on someone when the body isn't even cold. But he was man enough to offer an apology. I never cared for much of what he said about anything to be honest, but it's nice to know that even someone with whom I fundamentally disagreed with could be respected for have a bit of common decency.
There's no doubt about how I feel about his politics, but he showed himself to be a worthy statesman indeed.
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From the CBC article,
'Ottawa shooting: Canadian Muslims denounce attacks',
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Ihsaan Gardee, the executive director of the National Council of Canadian Muslims states;
"We stand united with Canadians in categorically condemning these cowardly and heinous acts. Our message to anyone who believes in violent extremist ideologies is that you have nothing to do with Islam," Gardee said.
The NCCM were formerly known as Cair-Can. They changed their name in June 2013.
They gave this advice to their followers on how to deal with Canada's security;
If CSIS/RCMP contact you;
If you are visited by CSIS/RCMP remember;
- You do not have to talk to CSIS/RCMP.
- You have no obligation to CSIS/RCMP, even if you are not a citizen.
> Never meet with them or answer any questions without a lawyer present.
https://noii-van.resist.ca/wp-content/uploads/2007/05/know-your-rights.pdf
The use of "never" is very disturbing. They are telling their followers to lawyer up immediately.
It would be a shame if someone inadvertently let slip that cousin Mo was buying a ton of fertilizer for his super bio-dynamic backyard garden.
and some nice change: https://twitter.com/hashtag/CanadaStrong?src=tren
From the CBC article,
'Ottawa shooting: Canadian Muslims denounce attacks',
.
Ihsaan Gardee, the executive director of the National Council of Canadian Muslims states;
"We stand united with Canadians in categorically condemning these cowardly and heinous acts. Our message to anyone who believes in violent extremist ideologies is that you have nothing to do with Islam," Gardee said.
The NCCM were formerly known as Cair-Can. They changed their name in June 2013.
They gave this advice to their followers on how to deal with Canada's security;
If CSIS/RCMP contact you;
If you are visited by CSIS/RCMP remember;
- You do not have to talk to CSIS/RCMP.
- You have no obligation to CSIS/RCMP, even if you are not a citizen.
> Never meet with them or answer any questions without a lawyer present.
https://noii-van.resist.ca/wp-content/uploads/2007/05/know-your-rights.pdf
The use of "never" is very disturbing. They are telling their followers to lawyer up immediately.
It would be a shame if someone inadvertently let slip that cousin Mo was buying a ton of fertilizer for his super bio-dynamic backyard garden.
and some nice change: https://twitter.com/hashtag/CanadaStrong?src=tren
While there are very sad aspects of this event, it is being a little overblown (not to underrate the death of the young soldier) I would venture to say that every day of the year there are worse events than this happening in a country somewhere in the world. Let's just pause for a moment to think about Lac Megantic- about 47 times worse!
That was then this is now. Not that we shall forget the past but this event is burdened by the present. Many in the past have lost their father or mother .
This event stands out for obvious reason.
Just like the one in Lac Megantic.
This event is fresh , emotions are high, not to contradict what you are saying , I get it, but sometimes there are things you have to let it slide.
The type of gun and his actions are leading investigators to believe this is not ISIS inspired.
Ottawa shooting: Where did Michael Zehaf-Bibeau get his gun?
Investigators say the Winchester .30-30 calibre rifle used by Michael Zehaf-Bibeau may be a critical piece of evidence as they try to reconstruct his activities prior to the attack.
"The source of that gun is of tremendous interest to us," said RCMP Commissioner Bob Paulson yesterday, "and we will determine where that gun came from."
The Winchester Model 94 is perhaps the most common and recognizable deer-hunting rifle in North America. It has been in constant production since 1894, with over seven million sold.
It is sometimes known as "the gun that won the West."
The design of the lever-action rifle, virtually unchanged for 120 years, may have limited Zehaf-Bibeau's ability to inflict mass casualties on Parliament Hill.
Only a few rounds left
The RCMP confirmed yesterday that Zehaf-Bibeau fired three shots at the National War Memorial: two at Cpl. Nathan Cirillo and one at the other soldier in the honour guard.
That means he would have had a maximum of five shots left, and more likely four, when he headed for Parliament. Security camera pictures show that he did not pause to reload.
That fact may explain why Zehaf-Bibeau passed on two easy opportunities to kill people on Parliament Hill. First, he allowed the driver of a government car he hijacked to escape. A few seconds later, he exited the car at the front doors of Centre Block, only metres from a group of three individuals. Again, he did not open fire.
Had he shot those people, he would have been entering Parliament with an empty rifle.
If his attack was indeed inspired by ISIS propaganda, it seems unlikely that he would have been so discriminating in his choice of targets. ISIS spokesman Abu Muhammad al-Adnani specifically instructed the group's adherents in the West not to spare civilians, in a video message released last month.
"If you can kill a disbelieving American or European … or an Australian, or a Canadian, or any other disbeliever from the disbelievers waging war … then rely upon Allah, and kill him in any manner or way however it may be," said al-Adnani.
"Kill the disbeliever whether he is civilian or military, for they have the same ruling. Both of them are disbelievers."
It all means that Zehaf-Bibeau must have obtained his rifle either by stealing it, buying it on the black market, or been given the rifle, either by someone unaware of his motives or an accomplice.
It may be that last possibility that explains why police are so focused on tracking the weapon's history.
http://www.cbc.ca/m/news/topstories...id-michael-zehaf-bibeau-get-his-gun-1.2811249
Ottawa shooting: Where did Michael Zehaf-Bibeau get his gun?
Investigators say the Winchester .30-30 calibre rifle used by Michael Zehaf-Bibeau may be a critical piece of evidence as they try to reconstruct his activities prior to the attack.
"The source of that gun is of tremendous interest to us," said RCMP Commissioner Bob Paulson yesterday, "and we will determine where that gun came from."
The Winchester Model 94 is perhaps the most common and recognizable deer-hunting rifle in North America. It has been in constant production since 1894, with over seven million sold.
It is sometimes known as "the gun that won the West."
The design of the lever-action rifle, virtually unchanged for 120 years, may have limited Zehaf-Bibeau's ability to inflict mass casualties on Parliament Hill.
Only a few rounds left
The RCMP confirmed yesterday that Zehaf-Bibeau fired three shots at the National War Memorial: two at Cpl. Nathan Cirillo and one at the other soldier in the honour guard.
That means he would have had a maximum of five shots left, and more likely four, when he headed for Parliament. Security camera pictures show that he did not pause to reload.
That fact may explain why Zehaf-Bibeau passed on two easy opportunities to kill people on Parliament Hill. First, he allowed the driver of a government car he hijacked to escape. A few seconds later, he exited the car at the front doors of Centre Block, only metres from a group of three individuals. Again, he did not open fire.
Had he shot those people, he would have been entering Parliament with an empty rifle.
If his attack was indeed inspired by ISIS propaganda, it seems unlikely that he would have been so discriminating in his choice of targets. ISIS spokesman Abu Muhammad al-Adnani specifically instructed the group's adherents in the West not to spare civilians, in a video message released last month.
"If you can kill a disbelieving American or European … or an Australian, or a Canadian, or any other disbeliever from the disbelievers waging war … then rely upon Allah, and kill him in any manner or way however it may be," said al-Adnani.
"Kill the disbeliever whether he is civilian or military, for they have the same ruling. Both of them are disbelievers."
It all means that Zehaf-Bibeau must have obtained his rifle either by stealing it, buying it on the black market, or been given the rifle, either by someone unaware of his motives or an accomplice.
It may be that last possibility that explains why police are so focused on tracking the weapon's history.
http://www.cbc.ca/m/news/topstories...id-michael-zehaf-bibeau-get-his-gun-1.2811249
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For anybody who missed it, here's the re-opening of Parliament yesterday.
Canada's Sgt. at Arms Kevin Vickers receives standing ovation as House of Commons reopens - YouTube
Canada's Sgt. at Arms Kevin Vickers receives standing ovation as House of Commons reopens - YouTube
This one is making the rounds on facebook with Trudeau's face all over it.
When Someone Attacks Canada, They Don't Respond With Irrational Fear. They Do This Instead.
When Someone Attacks Canada, They Don't Respond With Irrational Fear. They Do This Instead.
This one is making the rounds on a number of media outlets
Justin Trudeau asked about Boston Bombings - YouTube
Justin Trudeau asked about Boston Bombings - YouTube
lolololol
I thought that was going to be some slander piece but it was actually quite good.
Everything he said there made sense and that's mostly how Harper is responding to this crisis.
What a fine day it was for our politicians in the House. I was gobsmacked when Stephen crossed the floor to hug - HUG - Justin and Thomas. Way to go, Stevie.