Magnotta says "Not Guilty"

JLM

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Just heard on C.B.C. radio that this friggin' nut case say he did do what he's accused of but he's NOT guilty!!!! Is he planning on playing the "insanity card"? Coward!
 

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Why in the world does it take 2 plus years to bring this freak to trial?? As far as I'm concerned, they should have rented a room at the airport when they brought him back from Europe, grabbed 12 of his peers from the lobby, slapped a judge on the bench, appointed him a lawyer, shown the jury the VIDEO this creep made of the murder and posted on-line..........quick afternoon trial, then straight to the prison.

As for crazy, he was smart enough to run........

I mean TWO YEARS!!

Ludicrous.
 

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Is he planning on playing the "insanity card"? Coward!


Would a sane person do what he did?

Whether he plays that card or not there is no way he's coming out again.

As for crazy, he was smart enough to run........

Going to Europe to escape the law here is not the smartest thing to do. There are much better hiding spots.
 

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I think Colony Farm Psychiatric Facility for the Criminally Insane is the best place for him. He is clearly insane and a megalomaniac.

He'll be surrounded by people who feel they are most important as he feels he is. Imagine that game of verbal one ups man...His head will explode.

He'll be surrounded by people who's grasp on reality is a tenous as his.

He'll be surrounded by people who don't care about him or his ego.

He will be treated as a curiousity, studied and documented without the benefit of messaging his ego.

He will be kept away from the public and will for ever have the stigma of that place on his head.

I think if he were sent to a regular prison, it would feed his ego, his self worth as a bad ***. In the psych ward, no other inmate is going to think he's the least bit special. He will have no "street cred" or "rep" to keep him happy in his loneliness
 

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I think Colony Farm Psychiatric Facility for the Criminally Insane is the best place for him. He is clearly insane and a megalomaniac.

He'll be surrounded by people who feel they are most important as he feels he is. Imagine that game of verbal one ups man...His head will explode.

He'll be surrounded by people who's grasp on reality is a tenous as his.

He'll be surrounded by people who don't care about him or his ego.

He will be treated as a curiousity, studied and documented without the benefit of messaging his ego.

He will be kept away from the public and will for ever have the stigma of that place on his head.

I think if he were sent to a regular prison, it would feed his ego, his self worth as a bad ***. In the psych ward, no other inmate is going to think he's the least bit special. He will have no "street cred" or "rep" to keep him happy in his loneliness
Um. . . not all criminally insane people are megalomaniacs. And many, perhaps most, of them socialise in a manner not that different from those of us not judged insane (yet). And I would certainly hope he would be treated more than simply studied.

Don't get me wrong, this seems to me like another ideal candidate for the "long ladder, short rope" treatment. But if y'all decided that wackaloons are to be treated, not punished, ain't it kinda hypocritical to not do your best to treat 'em?
 

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Um. . . not all criminally insane people are megalomaniacs. And many, perhaps most, of them socialise in a manner not that different from those of us not judged insane (yet). And I would certainly hope he would be treated more than simply studied.

Don't get me wrong, this seems to me like another ideal candidate for the "long ladder, short rope" treatment. But if y'all decided that wackaloons are to be treated, not punished, ain't it kinda hypocritical to not do your best to treat 'em?

Yes, but he should be with his own kind, those who are criminally insane.

If he's a pyschopath, what treatment is there? He's clearly lacking empathy for his fellow man and he's a full on nut job.

He should be studied though.
 

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But if y'all decided that wackaloons are to be treated, not punished, ain't it kinda hypocritical to not do your best to treat 'em?

Id say losing your freedom is a punishment. Particularly when its in a place like that with no hope of getting out.

If he's a pyschopath, what treatment is there? He's clearly lacking empathy for his fellow man and he's a full on nut job.

He should be studied though.

I'd leave it to the experts to figure out what treatment if any can be used to improve him at all. I doubt they can make him any worse.

Studying is a good idea. Not just him but most murderers. Could potentially prevent another person like him from doing something similar. Then again I guess the authorities would have to actually care and do something to stop it. This guy had all the warning signs long before he killed anyone and no one did anything.
 

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Um. . . not all criminally insane people are megalomaniacs. And many, perhaps most, of them socialise in a manner not that different from those of us not judged insane (yet). And I would certainly hope he would be treated more than simply studied.

Don't get me wrong, this seems to me like another ideal candidate for the "long ladder, short rope" treatment. But if y'all decided that wackaloons are to be treated, not punished, ain't it kinda hypocritical to not do your best to treat 'em?


I like the "rope therapy".
 

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Studying is a good idea. Not just him but most murderers. Could potentially prevent another person like him from doing something similar. Then again I guess the authorities would have to actually care and do something to stop it. This guy had all the warning signs long before he killed anyone and no one did anything.


Warning signs could be a dangerous thing to use against a person though. Currently, we can't force treatment on people and we can't charge someone with thought crimes nor forcibly confine someone.

Maybe with further studying they'll figure out what can be done and change societies opinion about forcible confinement for the safety of others.

I'm flummoxed when it comes to what can be done that will help the individual but protect society.
 

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Warning signs could be a dangerous thing to use against a person though. Currently, we can't force treatment on people and we can't charge someone with thought crimes nor forcibly confine someone.

You can if they are a risk to themselves or others. Its short term but it can happen.
 

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You can if they are a risk to themselves or others. Its short term but it can happen.

Yes you are correct. However, of the 3 ways this can be done, the mental disorder must seriously impair the person's ability to react appropriately to their environment or to get along with others.

Psychopathy suffers aren't liable to allow this to show.

By forced treatment I meaning that a person will not change by force of treatment. Like an addict can not be forced or an abuser. The treatment won't work. Or at least that is what we've been told
 

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Why in the world does it take 2 plus years to bring this freak to trial?? As far as I'm concerned, they should have rented a room at the airport when they brought him back from Europe, grabbed 12 of his peers from the lobby, slapped a judge on the bench, appointed him a lawyer, shown the jury the VIDEO this creep made of the murder and posted on-line..........quick afternoon trial, then straight to the prison.

As for crazy, he was smart enough to run........

I mean TWO YEARS!!

Ludicrous.

Why do we even let these psychos plea "not guilty"? It's political correctness gone mad!
 

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Would a sane person do what he did?

It reminds me of Jeffrey Dahmer's lawyer after he was found legally sane. He said (and I'm paraphrasing), " It begs the question, how many people do you have to kill and eat in the state of Wisconsin before you are considered insane"
 

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Why do we even let these psychos plea "not guilty"? It's political correctness gone mad!

One must keep up appearances........


It reminds me of Jeffrey Dahmer's lawyer after he was found legally sane. He said (and I'm paraphrasing), " It begs the question, how many people do you have to kill and eat in the state of Wisconsin before you are considered insane"

In the USA, I believe the line is in the knowledge of good and evil, not to get all biblical on you.

If you KNOW what you did is wrong, and attempt to hide it, you are sane.....legally, at least.

Makes perfect sense to me.
 

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he's guilty and responsible for his braggarty actions as the day is long. sure it would be lovely if we could burn him to death but to satisfy the john howards out there a so-called 'life' sentence will have to do.

I do recommend the "1 lunatic 1 icepick" video (or stills if you haven't that much time) to those cocooned from reality lo these past few years.